Yeah. I think we're currently at about the two week mark with 7-10 days to get home if we go directly, and would like to not take more than about two more weeks to get home (for a total of a month long trip or so)...that probably leaves time for a side trip to Denmark, but we'll need to see some specific numbers to be sure.
oh, i forgot to put at least two more days on for the raid. 1 to get there + the storm, and another for the victory feast....
so we are more 22 to 28 days away for this strip, assuming we go home right away.
 
oh, i forgot to put at least two more days on for the raid. 1 to get there + the storm, and another for the victory feast....
so we are more 22 to 28 days away for this strip, assuming we go home right away.

I don't think that math quite works out? We have 12 'official' days of travel, plus however long other stuff took, which can't be more than 3 days total, so that's 12-15. Add another 7-10 and that's 19-25.
 
Yeah. I think we're currently at about the two week mark with 7-10 days to get home if we go directly, and would like to not take more than about two more weeks to get home (for a total of a month long trip or so)...that probably leaves time for a side trip to Denmark, but we'll need to see some specific numbers to be sure.

Or Barra?

They have lots of enticing trade goods like uh... rocks! And sheep!

(Skye legitimately has some cool stuff, and might be a better layover. Although then again, we could always save it for another expedition.)
 
Crackpot theory for how Farbjorn got his kenning: He bluffed it into life. He just kept obliquely mentioning his very mysterious and cool kenning and people started talking about and theorising how he got it. this eventually led to him actually getting the kenning.
 
Crackpot theory for how Farbjorn got his kenning: He bluffed it into life. He just kept obliquely mentioning his very mysterious and cool kenning and people started talking about and theorising how he got it. this eventually led to him actually getting the kenning.
The theorizing also leads to more interest.
Which leads to more stories.
Which leads to more recognition.
Which leads to more Orth.
 
well, if we are theorizing.... either its easier to get blood from stone than answers from him or he crushed stones and his hand started bleeding doing so, hence how he got blood from a stone.
 
(King Alfred will now be hiring Agder Mercenaries, which will provide a potent boost to the strength of the men of Agder)

I wonder if this will lead to the creation of something like a Varangian guard for the English kings, even if on a smaller scale. This will slightly reduce the number of people who will raid England, allow less risk to the lives of subjects, and provide soldiers who are much less interested in local politics. In principle, pay should be the king's main concern, but no one knows how to fight the Norse better than the Norse themselves.
 
I wonder if this will lead to the creation of something like a Varangian guard for the English kings, even if on a smaller scale. This will slightly reduce the number of people who will raid England, allow less risk to the lives of subjects, and provide soldiers who are much less interested in local politics. In principle, pay should be the king's main concern, but no one knows how to fight the Norse better than the Norse themselves.

Going to serve a king in England was a semi-regular element of several Sagas - the Saga of Gunlagg Serpent-Tongue comes to mind, and some parts of Egil's Saga.
 
Pity these guys don't deal in thralls. A mason would be useful.
Using slave labor for anything where mistakes could be critical and damaging is generally a bad call. Too many opportunities for sabotage. A mason, like an architect, is high on the list of things you don't want to rely on a slave for.
On the other hand, historically masons tended to be skilled, respected craftsmen who were sought after and would travel for pay in search of where the good jobs were. You didn't have to "have" a mason to "get" a mason. That's how the Freemasons originated- masons' travel and practices were international enough that they could form organizations with their own subculture.

Now, we're in the 9th century millennium, so it's a bit before the timeframe in which this actually happened historically, but that's mainly because no one was building stone structures. Here, we've got at least Carolingian cultivators building big stone castles, and that's very literally exactly the kind of thing that provided a market for master masons traveling large parts of Europe. Barring some weird way in which cultivation bypasses the need to build stone fortifications "the hard way" by medieval standards, I would expect that single specific thing to be available.

The hard part would be traveling Carolingian territory (and adjacent parts) freely in search of a master mason. England might be a better bet since there's at least some custom of Norsemen being able to move around and do normal business without getting beaten up.
 
On the other hand, historically masons tended to be skilled, respected craftsmen who were sought after and would travel for pay in search of where the good jobs were. You didn't have to "have" a mason to "get" a mason. That's how the Freemasons originated- masons' travel and practices were international enough that they could form organizations with their own subculture.

I'd potentially be down for hiring a mason, yeah. On the other hand, per IF, Halla is pretty sure she's got this so it might be out of character to do so? I dunno.
 
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Skippy's made the good point we could stop off in Denmark or somewhere and pick up actual trade goods to sell at home. That's not an unreasonable idea if the place we stop off is on the way back...

Denmark's out of our way though, we're skipping through the north sea, not hugging the continental coast. Some of our dudes are also being dropped off at the Danelaw too.
 
Denmark's out of our way though, we're skipping through the north sea, not hugging the continental coast. Some of our dudes are also being dropped off at the Danelaw too.

I'd need to look at a map for specific locations, but I'm pretty sure there are some on the way. If Denmark isn't one of them than not there, but the core idea of stopping along the way to pick up trade goods seems reasonable. Our hull is less than half full...
 
Denmark is the connecting tissue between Scandinavia and the Continent, we're cutting across the North Sea from the upper parts of the British Isles, and dropping out dudes off at the Danelaw on the way, Denmark itself would require us to either double back or cut across the deep sea unless our immigrants don't care about going to the Danelaw anymore.
 
Denmark is the connecting tissue between Scandinavia and the Continent, we're cutting across the North Sea from the upper parts of the British Isles, and dropping out dudes off at the Danelaw on the way, Denmark itself would require us to either double back or cut across the deep sea unless our immigrants don't care about going to the Danelaw anymore.

I mean, the ones who cared may have hopped a ride with Farbjorn's people. We really need more info to say what's going on there.
 
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