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I actually think he had a decent chance of killing Steinarr for a variety of reasons.

The Blackstone Style which is bolstered by the family coal mine, him being a rough draft possible player character and now the ridiculous potential trait which definitely belongs on a protagonist tiered latelbloomer character.

He might even kill Halla later on if not Steinarr too.

I am shook.

He's a threat to Halla (though they both want to avoid killing each other). He'll be a threat to Steinarr eventually...I dunno if he'll be a serious threat in time, though (ie: before something else gets Steinarr). Not unless Steinarr gets crippled somehow or something.
 
Also the fact that this world has Worthy as a bloody eugenic trait makes me want to roll out the guillotine, I know it won't pan out that different from all the other things people get, including Halla. But the mere mention of a golden key of 'Worthy' by bloodline kind of makes me want to carve out that trait from the world by the root.
 
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Given the speculation about the Weapon being involved with "Swords of Selection" ie Excalibur and Gram, I'm very sad we missed out on Worthy. Also missed out on the possibility of syncretizing Blackstone Blade and Stoker Style into Ultimate Fire Style. Ah well.
 
Also the fact that this world has Worthy as a bloody eugenic trait makes me want to roll out the guillotine, I know it won't pan out that different from all the other things people get, including Halla. But the mere mention of a golden key of 'Worthy' by bloodline kind of makes me want to carve out that trait from the world by the root.

In fairness, you can also actually just be Worthy. It probably also determines personality to some degree meaning people who have it actually are worthy. some Traits are personality-based, after all.

Given the speculation about the Weapon being involved with "Swords of Selection" ie Excalibur and Gram, I'm very sad we missed out on Worthy. Also missed out on the possibility of syncretizing Blackstone Blade and Stoker Style into Ultimate Fire Style. Ah well.

We would've had to play a kid yet to be born to get them, and even then, I'm not convinced that's better or more fun than some of the existing options.
 
So, on an unrelated note, I have a REVELATION on some Frenzy studies.

We should do an experiment when we're raising Hugr to 6, by putting most of our Frenzy into Fasts and then straight up sealing them and seeing if that eases the process of advancing it any further, and then slowly dialing things up until we've adapted. Rather than have to do it all in one big shock, we maintain just enough available to minimize the strain, and then dial the amount we're lining up slowly to better adapt to it.

Pressure Acclimation if you will.
 
Also the fact that this world has Worthy as a bloody eugenic trait makes me want to roll out the guillotine, I know it won't pan out that different from all the other things people get, including Halla. But the mere mention of a golden key of 'Worthy' by bloodline kind of makes me want to carve out that trait from the world by the root.
If it helps, the Worthy trait is also a flaw, given that it molds the user into fitting the requirements of whatever given thing it is rather then letting it be up to fate.
 
So, on an unrelated note, I have a REVELATION on some Frenzy studies.

We should do an experiment when we're raising Hugr to 6, by putting most of our Frenzy into Fasts and then straight up sealing them and seeing if that eases the process of advancing it any further, and then slowly dialing things up until we've adapted. Rather than have to do it all in one big shock, we maintain just enough available to minimize the strain, and then dial the amount we're lining up slowly to better adapt to it.

Pressure Acclimation if you will.

Have we been having problems? I thought we were basically fine other than the first time.

@Imperial Fister what has our actual experience with gaining Frenzy been like after the first time? Have we freaked out again, or have we been fine?
 
It's more that now we're getting into the bleeding edge of what's "Known" to be possible for Berserks, we should use greater caution. It's also worth experimenting with Frenzy stuff if our Frenzy is as weak as it can be. (For instance, I'd be unsurprised if we can trigger Berserkergang by mixing Odr with our Frenzy)
 
In fairness, you can also actually just be Worthy. It probably also determines personality to some degree meaning people who have it actually are worthy. some Traits are personality-based, after all.
If it means Worthy only in the cases of how your personality develop, then yeah, that better, because it is less ever-worthy and more your character is more predisposed to living up to that ideal, so it's basically like Kind/Friendly boons, but Worthy requirement could be a lot more than hidden tests of characters.
If it helps, the Worthy trait is also a flaw, given that it molds the user into fitting the requirements of whatever given thing it is rather then letting it be up to fate.
So basically it's a family aspect of Chivalrous spirit? Yeah that better, also it being a constant flaw as in an ideal that they need to live up to makes it an interesting boon/flaw instead of merely divine blood right.

If you are willing to peel the curtain a little. Is it something Fate/the Norns pre aim every one at birth or do they stir him actively through live with what tests are being thrown at him to develop him in that matter.
 
@Imperial Fister what has our actual experience with gaining Frenzy been like after the first time? Have we freaked out again, or have we been fine?
First was the hardest, second was only half as hard, third was a third as difficult, fourth was only a quarter of the first, so on and so forth
So basically it's a family aspect of Chivalrous spirit? Yeah that better, also it being a constant flaw as in an ideal that they need to live up to makes it an interesting boon/flaw instead of merely divine blood right.
More or less. If you run into an evil object that has strict requirements, then, well, guess what buddy! You're going for a ride!
 
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And Gabriel has that boon/flaw...

My concern over what he might do over his course to get strong enough to fill Steinerr has increased significantly...

I don't think he's a bad person, and frankly, the detachment went as well as it could have been. I think he's on the right path even if that sort of intersects with the grudge.
 
Oh yes, its just that if I understood it right he is going to be a magnet for both greatness and vileness, with the world throwing him every speck of loose thread and tests of his character.

He is still a good person, we saw that, it's just that he is going to attract tests tribulation and temptation like honey to flies.

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(~) Different After All - You and Blackhand may share the same soul, but that doesn't mean that you are him. Stepping from beyond his shadow, even as little as you have, has strengthened your ability to cultivate odr.

Very nice.
 
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If it moves from 1/9th of our Aspects to 1/6th, as I suspect it will, we're looking at going from 24 per turn to 36. A considerable sum that comfortably puts Second Realm in reach for early next year.
 
Does it mean Halla has been under a malus for her cultivation all this time because of Hallr shadow in her soul?
 
If it moves from 1/9th of our Aspects to 1/6th, as I suspect it will, we're looking at going from 24 per turn to 36. A considerable sum that comfortably puts Second Realm in reach for early next year.
But don't we want to complete the book and have the trials all set up before we do Second Realm? I recall someone saying it would likely be less difficult than once we punch into Second Realm?
 
But don't we want to complete the book and have the trials all set up before we do Second Realm? I recall someone saying it would likely be less difficult than once we punch into Second Realm?

I'm thinking that given the whole gatekeeping thing, we need to put off Disclosure until next character. It's not like our knowledge is going away.
 
So it's might be something all cultivator gain after they distinguish themselves enough from their fathers/family/teachers.

Or again it might be something unique to her hiving a shared soul. the Odr react better because she already she already tread the path, only it languished because she did not distinguish herself enough yet.
 
But don't we want to complete the book and have the trials all set up before we do Second Realm? I recall someone saying it would likely be less difficult than once we punch into Second Realm?

We can't put off 2nd Realm for Disclosure reasons, it's not logistically viable, and 2nd Realm increases the radius that local enemies are drawn from. That's not an unbeatable obstacle, but we're not realistically doing Disclosure before 2nd Realm.

I haven't 100% given up on it, but it's happening in the 2nd Realm if it happens at all.
 
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So, on an unrelated note. @Imperial Fister, would a research die going to effectively sketch out the full abilities of a Hugareida that Blackhand wasn't particularly good at be something that lets us map it out? Boil apparently isn't great, but Steam might have good value for us.
 
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