[X] Handle the Jedi yourself and send Thrawn to help deal with the Death Watch. They're coming to talk to you specifically, you've been able to handle them before (especially Obi-Wan), and while Thrawn might be a bigger target from the Death Watch he should be able to handle himself.
 
[X] Handle the Jedi yourself and send Thrawn to help deal with the Death Watch. They're coming to talk to you specifically, you've been able to handle them before (especially Obi-Wan), and while Thrawn might be a bigger target from the Death Watch he should be able to handle himself.

You know I had entirely forgotten we had Thrawn on staff but i am so glad we do, love the man.
 
[X] Handle the Jedi yourself and send Thrawn to help deal with the Death Watch. They're coming to talk to you specifically, you've been able to handle them before (especially Obi-Wan), and while Thrawn might be a bigger target from the Death Watch he should be able to handle himself.
 
Now that you've updated the first informational posts, I saw a point that needed correction:

Per the previous thread, the original -50% penalty only applied to "Trade & Investment" income. In addition, since the war began we have recovered 15% of that penalty (5% from Turn 17 "Favored National Neutrals", 10% from Turn 19 "Restoring the Trade Lanes"). So, we should be receiving 65% of Investment + Trade, and 100% of all other income (Information, Military, Karada).

Finally, we also seem to be missing +100 Income (categorized as "Humanitarian" since we receive it due to our Turn 18 Refugee Cities).

Everythng else in the Balance Sheet and other information looks good. Thanks for your work in keeping this quest alive!

Cheers man, edits are in there.

Also Thrawn has been statted, and he's sufficiently bullshit.

And since the voting seems to be laughably one-sided, I'll just call it now. Expect an update within the next couple of days.
 
Name: Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Nickname: Thrawn
Species: Chiss
Age: ?
Occupation: Captain
"Once you understand your opponent's history, their culture, their art...then you have beaten them before they even enter the battlefield."

Martial: 32 (A genius strategist without question.)

Diplomacy: 24 (He is charismatic and a cultured speaker, people tend to listen to him.)

Stewardship: 21 (As a one-time captain in the Chiss military he understands the importance of proper funding.)

Intrigue: 21 (He's a firm believer in 'know thy enemy,' and damned good at it too.)

Lore: 12 (He understands what the Force is after the encounter with the Outbound Flight but doesn't really care about it otherwise.)

Learning: 23 (He is an avid scholar, particularly in the field of art.)

Goddamn. Thrawn is total bullshit. We just absolutely need to make sure he won't betray us and try to take over.
 
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Now that Thrawn is with us, we need to get him three important things. A couple good ships, a good crew that can learn from their mistakes, and some speakers outside of said ships.

Why speakers? So we can introduce the Death Watch to his kickass theme.



Because everyone knows that the badasses in Star Wars have their own theme that perfectly describes the character in question. :cool:
 
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Goddamn. Thrawn is total bullshit. We just absolutely need to make sure he won't betray us and try to take over.

Actually Ciaran's pretty close to him in total stats-switch Martial with Diplo and Lore with Learning and you'd have about Ciaran's stat spread.
 
Goddamn. Thrawn is total bullshit. We just absolutely need to make sure he won't betray us and try to take over.
He'll be loyal as long as he thinks following us is in the galaxy's best interest. I'm pretty sure this Thrawn knows about the Vong, so tending things towards galactic stability would be best. Though we definitely don't want him meeting with Sidious and have him get convinced that he's the best shot at preserving the galaxy.
 
Actually Ciaran's pretty close to him in total stats-switch Martial with Diplo and Lore with Learning and you'd have about Ciaran's stat spread.

You're kidding me right? Even if you switched Thrawn's Martial and Diplo scores and his Lore and Learning, he'd still be better than Ciaran(Goddamnit, that'd probably make him deadlier. Thrawn with an interest/high understanding/use of the Force? Everyone out of the motherfucking universe!). 34 points in Martial alone makes him leagues better than us. We only have him beat on Lore because he doesn't care about/for the Force and we might have a lead on Intrigue, but Thrawn is sufficiently bullshit enough that he could either find a way to increase that or he's just already sufficiently bullshit enough with all his other stats to easily make up the few points difference.

He'll be loyal as long as he thinks following us is in the galaxy's best interest. I'm pretty sure this Thrawn knows about the Vong, so tending things towards galactic stability would be best. Though we definitely don't want him meeting with Sidious and have him get convinced that he's the best shot at preserving the galaxy.

Well, uh, I thought the Vong weren't gonna be a thing? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different quest? If so, did @Dr. Snark and/or @Teron say anything about it?
 
Well, uh, I thought the Vong weren't gonna be a thing? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different quest? If so, did @Dr. Snark and/or @Teron say anything about it?
Well, in EU, Sidious convinced Thrawn that destroying the Outbound Flight was imperative to the safety of the galaxy via stopping them from running into the Vong and leading them back to the rest of the galaxy (and Thrawn believed him about the Vong because a Chiss fleet had battled what sounded like them recently with heavy losses). Thrawn tried diplomacy before it failed and he destroyed/crippled it. In this Quest, diplo worked and the Outbound Flight was successfully diverted somewhere else. And Thrawn confirmed when he met with us that he talked to Sidious.

Granted, we don't really know how that conversation went in here, but it still somewhat followed the rails of EU until we found him, implying that Sidious at least managed to convince him that stopping the Outbound Flight's course was important.
 
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Well, uh, I thought the Vong weren't gonna be a thing? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different quest? If so, did @Dr. Snark and/or @Teron say anything about it?

There are still several races in the Unknown Region that are pretty dangerous even if the Vong no longer exist. The Chiss are apparently having a hard enough time as it is. Also remember that the Chiss didn't know about either the Force or droids prior to the Outbound Flight in canon.

Thrawn probably believes that he could find things that could help solve the various problems back on his homeworld. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to gain access to droids as a potential force multiplier along with other options. We just need to make sure that Sidious does not try to get his hands on one of the greatest strategists in the series. If we could expose the Chancellor as the Sith Lord that he is, there will be no way that he would follow a madman that destabilized the galaxy in the first place. But that is easier said than done.
 
You're kidding me right? Even if you switched Thrawn's Martial and Diplo scores and his Lore and Learning, he'd still be better than Ciaran(Goddamnit, that'd probably make him deadlier. Thrawn with an interest/high understanding/use of the Force? Everyone out of the motherfucking universe!). 34 points in Martial alone makes him leagues better than us. We only have him beat on Lore because he doesn't care about/for the Force and we might have a lead on Intrigue, but Thrawn is sufficiently bullshit enough that he could either find a way to increase that or he's just already sufficiently bullshit enough with all his other stats to easily make up the few points difference.

First off, I meant to say Intrigue was Ciaran's closest stat at 28. So there's that.

Second, I was planning on doing it later, but yeah I gave him Strategist to nerf him a bit. I know the man's fought on the ground before, but that trait's more to keep him somewhat balanced. Even though he is that OP because...well...he's Thrawn. Go read the material about him, and you'll see that he is honestly that good.

Anyway, mini-update coming shortly.

Well, uh, I thought the Vong weren't gonna be a thing? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different quest? If so, did @Dr. Snark and/or @Teron say anything about it?

Teron was pretty adamant about the Vong not showing up, though to be honest I will be fucking amazed if we get to that point anyway. If we somehow reach that point in time we'll see.
 
Upkeep: 985
- 35 (Information)
- 260 (Troops)
- 210 (Investment)
- 50 (Mobile base)
- 40 (Humanitarian)
- 150 (Trade)

- 40 (Karada Corporation)
- 50 (Devastator Production)
- 60 (Militia Salary)
- 50 (Kalee Base)

...err.... I am good with maths but I still cannot make that list total up to 985 instead of 945. Was there missing upkeep somewhere?
 
Well, in EU, Sidious convinced Thrawn that destroying the Outbound Flight was imperative to the safety of the galaxy via stopping them from running into the Vong and leading them back to the rest of the galaxy (and Thrawn believed him about the Vong because a Chiss fleet had battled what sounded like them recently with heavy losses). Thrawn tried diplomacy before it failed and he destroyed/crippled it. In this Quest, diplo worked and the Outbound Flight was successfully diverted somewhere else. And Thrawn confirmed when he met with us that he talked to Sidious.

Granted, we don't really know how that conversation went in here, but it still somewhat followed the rails of EU until we found him, implying that Sidious at least managed to convince him that stopping the Outbound Flight's course was important.

Yeah, uh, didn't the Outbound Flight avoid Thrawn this time? Or am I misremembering how it went? 'Cause I could've sworn our guys and the Jedi on the Outbound Flight managed to take over from the original leader and managed to make it to the Unknown Regions... Still, the convo with Sidious did happen, which is how we learned of Sidious IIRC.

There are still several races in the Unknown Region that are pretty dangerous even if the Vong no longer exist. The Chiss are apparently having a hard enough time as it is. Also remember that the Chiss didn't know about either the Force or droids prior to the Outbound Flight in canon.

Thrawn probably believes that he could find things that could help solve the various problems back on his homeworld. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to gain access to droids as a potential force multiplier along with other options. We just need to make sure that Sidious does not try to get his hands on one of the greatest strategists in the series. If we could expose the Chancellor as the Sith Lord that he is, there will be no way that he would follow a madman that destabilized the galaxy in the first place. But that is easier said than done.

Mmm, I knew that. I'm not totally ignorant on Thrawn's story thankfully, but right now, it says that "He understands what the Force is after the encounter with the Outbound Flight but doesn't really care about it otherwise". That implies that he doesn't care about/for the Force, even though he does know about it now. I dunno why, but it could be because of all the enemies in the Unknown regions are more scary/sufficiently bullshit enough to not matter. And as for everything in the 2nd paragraph, I fully agree with you. However, I think convincing him is easier thank you think, because didn't we get Sidious's name from Thrawn or at least knowledge of some Sith controlling things behind the scenes IIRC?

First off, I meant to say Intrigue was Ciaran's closest stat at 28. So there's that.

Second, I was planning on doing it later, but yeah I gave him Strategist to nerf him a bit. I know the man's fought on the ground before, but that trait's more to keep him somewhat balanced. Even though he is that OP because...well...he's Thrawn. Go read the material about him, and you'll see that he is honestly that good.

Anyway, mini-update coming shortly.



Teron was pretty adamant about the Vong not showing up, though to be honest I will be fucking amazed if we get to that point anyway. If we somehow reach that point in time we'll see.

True, her Intrigue is her biggest stat, but Thrawn could easily make up for that with everything else which was my point(Not complaining here, Thrawn is sufficiently bullshit as he should be. Just saying that it would be pretty easy for him to take over. Of course Ciaran's Intrigue might be able to suss out any plans of betrayal, but that doesn't matter if she cannot be able to beat Thrawn and whatever plans he may have.).

And the Strategist Trait does help, but Thrawn wouldn't really be one to fight in the first place unless there's no other option IMHO. Plus, even if he did fight, I've no doubt that he'd have some plan to level the playing field or some backup plan(or three) to help him out should things go wrong/get hairy(Also, I have already read some of the material on Thrawn. Not as much as I probably should, but some.)

As for the Vong, I mainly wanted to know in case we actually manage to off dear ol' Sid and thus, do away with the whole Anakin->Darth Vader, Republic becomes Empire thing. That and I haven't actually read anything that may have come between the Death Star exploding and the arrival of the Vong so I have no clue of anything that may come before that.

Looking forward to the mini update by the way.
 
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The Mandalorian Connections - Prologue 2
"Thrawn, I believe you would be better off dealing with the Death Watch," Ciaran stated authoritatively. "It would be much better if I handled the Jedi myself." And I get the enjoyment of messing with Obi-Wan some more, she thought to herself.

Thrawn nodded. "Very well, I will require as much data on the situation as possible."

"You'll get it shortly. Any objections to this plan?" Silence. "Very well. All of you save for Thrawn are dismissed."

As everyone slowly filed out of the room (Silas shooting a brief glare at the Chiss before he left), the room seemed to get slightly darker. The sound of the door shutting echoed through the room as Ciaran and Thrawn stared each other down.

"You do not trust me." Thrawn stated simply.

"Hmm...yes and no." Ciaran said, causing Thrawn to quirk an eyebrow at her statement. "I don't doubt that you'll contain the Death Watch, maybe even destroy them entirely. But what I do doubt is why you are still here." The temperature in the room seemed to drop a few degrees. "You are certainly a talented man-I've heard from OOM-9 about how you've handily been winning simulation battles and from what I've heard from the others you seem to be skilled in many other fields from diplomacy to intelligence work. You could succeed at whatever you put your mind to without question. So why are you here?"

Ciaran's question seemed to hang in the air as both of them stayed silent. For a moment neither of them spoke and then:

"Because our interests align, Lady Ciaran." Thrawn said calmly but resolutely. Ciaran did not speak, something Thrawn took as a sign to continue. "There are forces in this universe that could bring an end to not only the Republic, but life as you or I know it should they set their sights on the galaxy. From what I have seen the Republic attempting to govern it is weak, divided, and is constantly falling prey to strife, unaware of the monsters lurking just beyond its sight. If things are allowed to continue as they are, the galaxy is doomed. But..."

Thrawn smiled, and in that moment Ciaran noticed that there was something familiar about the way he did it.

"I have...faith in you, for lack of a better term. Though I have only been here for a relatively short time, I have learned a lot about you through your organization and the people you surround yourself with. You recognize the benefits of peace and the realities of war in equal measure. You are prepared to sully your hands to achieve your goals no matter what they may be. You have ambitions far beyond those of normal beings and the will to see them through. I am here because I can tell that you and I are...kindred spirits as it were, and our efforts would be magnified immensely were we to work together." Thrawn matched Ciaran's gaze. "And while our reasons may be different, our goals are the same-a truly united galaxy. Is that a sufficient answer?"

The room went quiet again.

And then Ciaran smiled in that same way Thrawn did.

"Yes. Yes it is."

And with that statement Ciaran opened a comlink and simply said "You can come in now, Silencer."

The door open and the Silencer walked into the room, the lights now visibly growing brighter and the temperature noticeably increasing to normal levels.

"Forgive the theatrics, I find that they're far more effective than you might think," Ciaran said to a bemused Thrawn as she held up a remote with climate and lighting controls, her trademark coy smirk returning to her face briefly before she turned to the Silencer. "Silencer, you are to treat him as a fellow command member with all of the respect the position entails during the operation. Am I clear?" The Silencer stoically nodded. "Good. We've gotten reports about a fairly recent attack from the Death Watch, I would suggest you start there. And Thrawn..."

"Welcome to the Abyss Watchers. I'm certain we'll accomplish great things together."

Perspective:
[] Ciaran Trolls Satine And Obi-Wan
[] Thrawn And Silencer Set Loose On Mandalore

AN: I was planning on going with Ciaran first and then potentially Thrawn if you guys were interested, but I got the vibe from the comments that a lot of you were hyped to see Thrawn too so I figured I'd cut the update a bit short and let you guys decide on what you want to see first.

And as for Thrawn's loyalties...he's content to be the Zhuge Liang to Ciaran's Liu Bei and be the supporting mastermind for Ciaran.
 
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...we have to choose?

...:(

Calm down, I plan on doing both given the positive reception, I just didn't make that clear enough.

...But I am forcing you to choose who you want to see first because I'm an asshole like that. :drevil:

...err.... I am good with maths but I still cannot make that list total up to 985 instead of 945. Was there missing upkeep somewhere?

Also thanks for pointing this out, somehow I screwed up the calculations somewhere. All fixed up now.
 
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Calm down, I plan on doing both given the positive reception, I just didn't make that clear enough.

...But I am forcing you to choose who you want to see first because I'm an asshole like that. :drevil:
Gotcha! In that case:

[X] Ciaran Trolls Satine And Obi-Wan

So that Thrawn and the Silencer can provide the 'splosions-laden conclusion we'd all love to see!
 
[X] Ciaran Trolls Satine And Obi-Wan

Is there really a choice? ALWAYS go for the trolling in CiaranQuest! -g-
 
[x] Thrawn And Silencer Set Loose On Mandalore

Whichever one is shown first, it would be neat if there are hints of each scene's events occasionally affecting the other scene.
 
[X] Ciaran Trolls Satine And Obi-Wan

Palpatine maybe a villain but Ciaran is a super villain after all the difference between the two is presentation!

Edit: Also if I'm up for it I might write the Christmas themed omake sometime around christmas with the Silencer and the clones. I mentioned as a idea in the previous thread.
 
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