Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Because they should get to make their own names. And naming themes are fun!
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
- Start date
- Location
- Tarn-Vedra
[X]Flare Blade.
[X]Ragnarök.
[X]Ragnarök.
Eh. As long as Taylor can show that she can control the logia and is not power hungry or out of control or other bad things the TSAB should go live and let live. Though there will probably be a lot of enticement at trying tk get Taylor to join up.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
"No worries, our best agents are Meisters of Lost Logia, or are even made by them! Now, we'd like to help you fight crime all across time and space, we'd even throw in pay and training. Is there anything we can help you to get your home life straightened out before you're comfortable signing off on the TSAB?"
*Taylor points at Endbringer*
"... We're gonna need Nanoha."
- Location
- Pittsburgh PA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X]Flare Blade
[X]Ragnarök
[X]Ragnarök
- Location
- Russia
People who vote for Ragnarök, you do realise that ↓, right?
More dakka is good, but there's more dakka and there's being a walking 30 magatonne nuke.
[X] Frost Beam
[X] Flare Blade
Silently Watches on SB said:
More dakka is good, but there's more dakka and there's being a walking 30 magatonne nuke.
[X] Frost Beam
[X] Flare Blade
Vote Tally : Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha) | Page 205 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.9
[X] Flare Blade
No. of Votes: 22
[X]Ragnarök
No. of Votes: 19
[X] Ring Bind
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Frost Beam
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Telekinesis
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Dimensional Transfer
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 24
##### NetTally 1.7.9
[X] Flare Blade
No. of Votes: 22
No. of Votes: 19
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Frost Beam
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Telekinesis
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Dimensional Transfer
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 24
Vote Tally : Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha) | Page 173 | Spacebattles Forums
##### NetTally 1.7.9
[X] Flare Blade
No. of Votes: 11
[X] Frost Beam
No. of Votes: 9
[X] Ragnarock
No. of Votes: 8
[X] Shell Barrier
No. of Votes: 4
[X] Ring bind
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 17
##### NetTally 1.7.9
[X] Flare Blade
No. of Votes: 11
No. of Votes: 9
[X] Ragnarock
No. of Votes: 8
[X] Shell Barrier
No. of Votes: 4
[X] Ring bind
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 17
Firedon
Lazy Sleepy Cat
- Location
- Germany
Exactly. But the only alternate Earth Taylor knows about is Aleph at the moment. And dropping Lung on Aleph is not really a solution I want. Hence, experimenting with finding different earths.
- Location
- Where I need to be
[X] Ragnarök
[X] Flare Blade
[X] Flare Blade
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
I ask people who voted for Ragnarok to reconsider their choice.
I understand, we just saw dragon's rampage and our first reaction is, of course, "acquire MORE DAKKA!"
But MORE DAKKA is pretty much useless in this case.
Ragnarok is a weapon with low utility.
There is not so many targets tough enough to shrug off Solar Wrath and dangerous enough to risk and nuke entire city to get them.
I can think only about Endbringers, Butcher!Lung and Echidna.
1. It's doubtful Ragnarok is capable to kill Endbringer, and, considering we cannot pull Endbringer into Recursion field, there is good chances we just do their job for them; destroy city and kill hundreds of its citizens and defenders meaninglessly.
2. Ragnarok is useless against Lung. It doesn't have non-lethal setting, and if we actually manage to kill him we just create new Butcher.
3. We don't actually know if there is Echidna in MGET. Even if it's Noelle creates Beasts, she may not be as unstoppable monster as canon Echidna*. I for one have a suspicion it's part of Lost Logia is causing trouble and we need to hack and shut down it, not obliterate it.
So, there is five viable targets for Ragnarok and only against one of them it can be used without dire consequences. And we don't know is this one target actually exist.
*Fun fact: in canon Travelers were dropped at Earth Bet in December 2009, while in MGET Scion disappeared at the end of June 2009. It's fully possible when Ziz attacked Madison, Cauldron lab and vials already were destroyed, and so Travelers story was derailed even before it started.
I understand, we just saw dragon's rampage and our first reaction is, of course, "acquire MORE DAKKA!"
But MORE DAKKA is pretty much useless in this case.
Ragnarok is a weapon with low utility.
There is not so many targets tough enough to shrug off Solar Wrath and dangerous enough to risk and nuke entire city to get them.
I can think only about Endbringers, Butcher!Lung and Echidna.
1. It's doubtful Ragnarok is capable to kill Endbringer, and, considering we cannot pull Endbringer into Recursion field, there is good chances we just do their job for them; destroy city and kill hundreds of its citizens and defenders meaninglessly.
2. Ragnarok is useless against Lung. It doesn't have non-lethal setting, and if we actually manage to kill him we just create new Butcher.
3. We don't actually know if there is Echidna in MGET. Even if it's Noelle creates Beasts, she may not be as unstoppable monster as canon Echidna*. I for one have a suspicion it's part of Lost Logia is causing trouble and we need to hack and shut down it, not obliterate it.
So, there is five viable targets for Ragnarok and only against one of them it can be used without dire consequences. And we don't know is this one target actually exist.
*Fun fact: in canon Travelers were dropped at Earth Bet in December 2009, while in MGET Scion disappeared at the end of June 2009. It's fully possible when Ziz attacked Madison, Cauldron lab and vials already were destroyed, and so Travelers story was derailed even before it started.
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Shaseyu, we've had this talk about Ragnarok and its destructive potential compared to the Endbringers before, do not misrepresent it.
Not if you apply a modicum of intelligence. If he's in a Recursion Field or on an Empty Earth, he can't re-infect someone with the shard.
You know, like we've been talking about for some time now.
If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck...
Plenty of Lost Logia get blown up.
Madison happened in July of '09, not December. And we've already seen evidence of Scion's more powerful, less safe shards going out to people triggering, so the derails may be less than you think.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Why kill him at all, if he on Empty Earth?
...it's probably interdimensional terrorist who's planning to kill all humans?
If it's part of PS, it's our Lost Logia. Blow up your own property is a terrible waste.
Fun fact: Worm wiki and timeline says about July, but Worm itself:
Migration 17.1 said:
You forgot Sleeper and Ash Beast.
That's still killing him, just being wishy-washy on it.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem."
Which fits Echidna to a T.
Uh... Perfect Storm didn't lose any physical pieces of himself. He lost his memory. It might have been some other L2 that the TSAB was transporting, but I'm a bit doubtful.
... that's from when they're on Earth Aleph.
It's near the end of the chapter that they get pulled into Earth Bet.
If you're going to quote something, don't be so sloppy as to do it out of context.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
PS needs three days to create new device and it has cooldown more than month.
Meanwhile Lost Logia
I don't think that one template-device can be called 'build up forces', so I believe that Perfect Storm is just a part of Lost Logia.
Time-travel, really?
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
From the very first update:
Memory corruption. Not hardware loss.
Have you never heard of a flash-back?Time-travel, really?
That chapter is partially from before the Simurgh pulled them to Earth Bet. Was Krouse talking with his mother not a big enough 2x4? Look, go back and re-read Migration before you make yourself look even worse.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Yes. Memory corruption. So it doesn't remember other units that usually help it.
Yes, it's flash-back.
In this flash-back it's December, almost Christmas at Earth Alef.
Krouse went to meet his friends and they all were transported at Earth Bet.
I believe that time on Alef and Bet is synchronized, so it was December at Earth Bet too.
You suggested that Travelers were transported from December-Alef to July-Bet.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
That's Begging The Question, circular logic! You have no evidence for your argument, give it a rest.Either that or it's one more inconsistency among many in Worm.
Yes, it's flash-back.
In this flash-back it's December, almost Christmas at Earth Alef.
Krouse went to meet his friends and they all were transported at Earth Bet.
I believe that time on Alef and Bet is synchronized, so it was December at Earth Bet too.
You suggested that Travelers were transported from December-Alef to July-Bet.
And is an Entity-created drone messing with the time-space continuum so difficult to believe?
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
Regarding the timeline, in this story Earths Aleph and Bet progress equally in time, and Madison happened in November. I believe that is confirmed in Chavalier's interlude, but I'm at work and can't check.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
The Endbringer attack list only has Simurgh's first two attacks, and cuts off at 2003. Six whole years before Madison.
Might have something to do with the confusion over the date of Madison.
Archeo Lumiere
The Prince's Archivist
- Location
- Lumiose City, Kalos
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
There's a Timeglider timeline somewhere that has attacks further than that, including the airplane.The Endbringer attack list only has Simurgh's first two attacks, and cuts off at 2003. Six whole years before Madison.
Might have something to do with the confusion over the date of Madison.