There is no kill, like overkill.Well both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were less than that. City-killer indeed.
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
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Always Late
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30kt is what the US used for nuclear bunker-busters in the 50's. Definitely a small-end nuclear device, but it's still a nuke.Well both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were less than that. City-killer indeed.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
There is three reasons why I prefer Ring Bind to Ragnarok.
1. I don't believe that it would be enough against Endbringer. And collateral damage would be...
2. Endbringers come and go, but regular criminals here forever. And we lack restriction spell.
3. One day I want to shoot Teana with Solar Wrath. Then she can give us her expert opinion in comparison with Nanoha. But as we don't have Nanoha's huge experience we can cheat a little and immobilize her with Ring Bind.
Always Late
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I think there's a bit of an... expectation for anti-endbringer weapons. It's not a OHKO, nothing short of a Quarrel-Sting combo really would be. But we'd be graduated from 'Purity level' to 'Legend' level. And frankly, the collateral from our blast is nothing compared to what Behemoth, Leviathan, or Simurgh can do. Behemoth irradiated almost all of New York, Leviathan has pulled large sections of continents underwater, and the Simurgh is the Simurgh.
We have a restraining device. It's called 'plastic zip ties for after I blast you into unconsciousness'.
Archeo Lumiere
The Prince's Archivist
- Location
- Lumiose City, Kalos
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
[X]Ragnarök
[X]Flare Blade
[X]Flare Blade
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
So does anyone have any suggestions for Cape names if we get two or more Linker Cores among the Privateers? I mean, we know the first Linker Core success is going to be assigned to Tim, and he's going to go with Tim the Enchanter, especially if we give him the gadegeteer template. But what about other people and templates?
The second success is going to be assigned to...Lacey, I think. To avoid too much redundancy, I think we shouldn't give out templates we've already given until at least one of each template is on our team, so if we do that, Lacey will have Extinction Knight and Infinite Enhancement available to her. So, the question is, what would be an appropriate Cape Name?
Personally, I'm thinking something along the lines of Disaster Sorceress if we give her Infinite Enhancement, and Apocalypse Mage if we give her Extinction Knight. They have similarities to our name, in that the first word is related to some form of disaster, and the second word is a type of magic-user.
I admit, I was thinking of a Cape Name for the Gadgeteer, because Tim the Enchanter is...kind of lame, in my opinion. But I couldn't figure out an appropriate disaster-related word for the first part of the name. The best I could think of was Catastrophe Enchanter, which...I just don't like it that much.
The second success is going to be assigned to...Lacey, I think. To avoid too much redundancy, I think we shouldn't give out templates we've already given until at least one of each template is on our team, so if we do that, Lacey will have Extinction Knight and Infinite Enhancement available to her. So, the question is, what would be an appropriate Cape Name?
Personally, I'm thinking something along the lines of Disaster Sorceress if we give her Infinite Enhancement, and Apocalypse Mage if we give her Extinction Knight. They have similarities to our name, in that the first word is related to some form of disaster, and the second word is a type of magic-user.
I admit, I was thinking of a Cape Name for the Gadgeteer, because Tim the Enchanter is...kind of lame, in my opinion. But I couldn't figure out an appropriate disaster-related word for the first part of the name. The best I could think of was Catastrophe Enchanter, which...I just don't like it that much.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
It's a cape as large as Behemoth, has something like seven superstrength and super-durability powers stacked on top of each other, can teleport with fiery explosions, can produce fire and control the fire his teleport-explosions make, has attacks that never miss and leave wounds that constantly get worse, has a pain blast, has a rage aura, gets stronger the more and stronger the people fighting him, and oh, if you kill him, you'll turn into him.
Their official response isn't that they're letting him go and do as he will. It's that they're working on some means by which to kill him without giving the Butcher more powers. In reality, of course, they're currently too busy shitting their pants to think straight let alone stop him.
That was just a joke on my part, you know.
Where did I put that picture…
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ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
...oh. Well then, that just gives us a good reason to think up a name for him. ...would you happen to know any disaster-related words beginning with a B?That was just a joke on my part, you know.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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If they just said they're putting him in the same category as the Slaughterhouse Nine, that one dude in Africa that's a massive walking explosion, or even an actual Endbringer, they'd probably get some people off their backs. 'He's a fact of life now, we can only get out of his way'.
Kinruush
Who?
- Location
- USA
Ah, right. Went looking for specifics, because I didn't remember Number Man's part convincing me that she had actually triggered twice. I found that strictly speaking Number Man's machine tests whether a parahuman can have a second trigger; he tells her that either she's already had a second one or she isn't capable of it to begin with. But with Tattletale providing extra support (which wouldn't be a red herring that late in the game), it's more solidly supported, and Wildbow confirmed it later here.
Ring Bind is more useful for keeping people from moving so that they can be blasted into unconsciousness. I can't help but expect that at some point we're going to need someone to sit still so we can shoot them or at least so someone else can handle them. I want Ragnarök as much as anyone, but I can't help but think Ring Bind will be helpful in a fight before Ragnarök will. And, then, well, we'll be able to get Ragnarök after the next fight anyway.
[X]Ring Bind
[X]Flare Blade
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Why exactly we need to 'graduate'? We already have Alexandria's interest and I'm sure, our Nazi bonfire will become known to Legend.
But zip ties are not cool!
Also, Ring Bind block teleportation and we have troubles with shooting teleporters. Remember how Oni Lee got away?
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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I am somewhat skeptical of Ring Bind's ability to actually immobilize. Especially with how many of our enemies have super-strength.
One can throw around 30 kilotons of nuclear energy, one can't.
Speak for yourself, mate.But zip ties are not cool!
FTFY. We could have sent up more WAS and pursued, but by that point we risked tangling with Lung. Something Purity wasn't going to let us do.
Also, where do you get that it blocks teleportation? Because it's not here:
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
So does anyone have anything to say about the name suggestions?
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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Blackout, Blizzard, Bushfire...
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
I do like the idea of a Blackout Enchanter. It fits the suggested theme, the state of being unconscious is sometimes referred to bring "blacked out", there's a certain amount of irony about someone whose powers revolve around technology having a name that refers to having no power...yes, I very much like it!
Ok, so suggestions for names are therefore:
Extinction Knight-Apocalypse Mage
Transcendent Gadgeteer-Blackout Enchanter/Enchantress
Infinite Enhancement-Disaster Sorcerer/Sorceress
Does anyone have any objections or ideas?
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Why exactly we want to be known as walking nuke?
It may be a bond that reconnect us with Miss Militia, but I don't see other benefits.
Kinruush
Who?
- Location
- USA
I admit that I have my concerns as well, but I'm hoping that its inclusion as a spell means it has enough strength to be useful, even if not all the time. Even with limited usefulness against Brutes, though, it wouldn't be pointless. With just Ring Bind (at a higher level, where it could affect more than one target), we could take every member of the now defunct BB Protectorate and Wards out of play in a fight save perhaps Battery and Shadow Stalker. That's not nothing, particularly as it's faster than anything else that could accomplish the same goal, and it comes without collateral damage. I wouldn't expect it to win many (if any) fights outright, but I like the combat utility it could potentially provide.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
That name really doesn't play into the role. Infinite Enhancement is making people akin to Wolkenritter or Combat Cyborgs, the name should reflect that.
Miss Militia, no. But the benefit is the same one that people like Legend, Purity, or Alexandria have: You don't fuck with them. Nobody fights any of the Triumvirate unless they're either stupid or can actually take them, and are known the world over. That kind of reputation as a world-class cape is a massive benefit all its own.
Also, while the teleportation thing you are correct on and I thank you for reminding me, the detail that minimal super-strength is needed to break them is very much a deal-breaker.
I didn't see a mention of it stopping Breakers. Sophia doesn't need to move her limbs to go into her shadow-state.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
You know, one possible method of getting rid of Lung might be to give him a device, then take it away. If he has a Linker Core, the Device will sever his connection to the shard. With a bit of luck, the Butcher power won't jump, because the host didn't die, effectively killing the Butcher once and for all. And after that, taking away the Device would prevent Lung from being a threat, as he wouldn't have had time to learn how to use spells without it. Course, this plan does rely on him having a Linker Core. Oh well, I think we should have one made and try it. If it doesn't work, then at least we'll have a Device to give to a recruit.
I thought that the Gadgeteer was the one focused on weaponry and cyborgs, with Enhancement being focused on healing, buffs, and debuffs. I admit, I did consider maybe Disaster Cleric, but...well, clerics are often some kind of holy person, or at least a worshipper of something, and I think that the name might cause unwanted comparisons to the Fallen.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
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Infinite Enhancement is buffer/debuffer/healer.
It can affect Cadejo for example. Right now we don't have anything to stop him.
Always Late
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And making a normal human akin to Signum or Tre is very much buffing them.
Lethal beams would destroy his claws and teeth. We know this.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
For that we should use Gadgeteer.
And then he just get away, because we don't have anything to stop him.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
I suppose you have a point here, but that seems like something best left to the Gadgeteer. Let's just put a pin in it for now, though. We can have a more in-depth discussion when we give someone the template. All I would like from the name is that it follows the general theme we've got going.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
You forget, or mistake running away with being incapable of catching him. Without his claws, he has to run so he can change to human then back without getting hit. There's nothing that says we can't follow him with WAS.
Infinite Enhancement, disaster-related name... I think Overflow would fit.