Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
Charles McNider School for Gifted Youth
Okay, while I know that the Charles McNider in reference is Doctor Mid-Nite that's not where my brain jumped to start with. See, I grew up taking weekly(at least) walks across the river to go to the Charles H. MacNider art museum, look at the stuff, and play around in the puppet room. So my first thought wasn't a superhero, but... "Wait, The DOMA Academy is going to be in Mason City, Iowa? Are they going to have 76 Trombones hanging in the Music Room?"
 
Bare successes tend to be when you only past the DC by 15 and less and are you technically achieving the goal but it coming at a decently high cost. Tiny successes are bare success in situations in which you can do nothing.
Fair enough, does it go Bare Success > Minor Success then?

Also I might be wrong but shouldn't Marie's Diplo be 16 now?
If I'm speaking about the Cold Engine and you're genuinely concerned I can give spoilers as to what the subvote is about. That being said I'll let you know now no progress will be lost on its completion
Ahh that makes sense, in that case then
I'm probably leaning towards keeping them both since they give us the best shot of finishing the Cold Engine though getting Caitlin and Killer Frost is pretty tempting but she's probably be even more unstable than she already is

But we could name the new science building after the recently deceased Louise Lincoln if we went that way
 
You didn't. The Russians already have plenty of reason to ban Superman on their own (the American government claimed Superman as a citizen of the nation as another implicit counter to the Rocket Red program and whatever else Russia might be hiding. As such Russia doesn't appreciate being threatened and told them to keep Superman out of their country). China also has their own reasons to ban foreign American powered individuals from their country and as such did so. The fact that they knew Lex Luthor would appreciate the action was a bonus to something they were already going to do.
OK that makes sense.

Yes. I wanted a small non-European nation to be on the list of hypothetical tiny countries that banned Superman from their borders in order to signify that there are a few smaller nations that are also trying to keep Superman out. Eswanti AKA Swaziland was chosen because it's a country that fits those criteria and I don't think I'm ever going to use for anything else
Yeah, fair.

The subvote is to pick between the following choices. Either no one dies but both Caitlin and Louise are unavailable to be assigned to actions for up to two turns or Louise dies and you get Caitlin Snow as Killer Frost, meaning she becomes a much better hero unit, while being ready to use next turn
(spoiler-compliant reaction)

Hm. The first option is probably more compatible with us actually completing the Cold Engine before we all die of old age, while the second option is more compatible with, uh... a lot of other things.

Also, uh,

@jonasquinn

Bear in mind, Dr. Snow is the nice one. She's "unstable" in that she sometimes has a bad day and is counterproductive a few percent of the time, but she's easy to work with and gets along well with many others.

Dr. Lincoln is the one who's generally a misanthropic jerk with Ivo-tier co-op scores.

I am actively against releasing this version of the car, if we want to make Kryptonite powered cars the future we need to release them to as big an acclaim as possible, not a slow treacle as we improve an expensive, impractical car over time
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. What I'm saying is, this is our shitty but functional prototype, which we call the Tesla or whatever because Lex Luthor gets to flex on Elon Musk. :p
 
Okay, while I know that the Charles McNider in reference is Doctor Mid-Nite that's not where my brain jumped to start with. See, I grew up taking weekly(at least) walks across the river to go to the Charles H. MacNider art museum, look at the stuff, and play around in the puppet room. So my first thought wasn't a superhero, but... "Wait, The DOMA Academy is going to be in Mason City, Iowa? Are they going to have 76 Trombones hanging in the Music Room?"
Charles McNider was also the first head of the DEO in quest (the DOMA's predecessor).

I've got a similar thing where whenever I read the word Cabot I think of my elementary school rather than the cheese.
Fair enough, does it go Bare Success > Minor Success then?
It should go that way. Like how significant successes are always better than decent successes. Granted these are used as measuring sticks of degree of success so a bare success on an action like [ ] conquer the world would be better (if you want to take over the world) than a decent success at [ ] conquer Luxembourg.

That make sense?
 
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Bear in mind, Dr. Snow is the nice one. She's "unstable" in that she sometimes has a bad day and is counterproductive a few percent of the time, but she's easy to work with and gets along well with many others.

Dr. Lincoln is the one who's generally a misanthropic jerk with Ivo-tier co-op scores.
I know but Caitlin clearly has her own issues, such as her desperate need for validation from authority figures

Which makes her easy for Lex to manipulate but might spiral out of control if
she believes she might be responsible for the death of her mentor
Yeah, I've got you now
 
@King crimson Overall I'm happy with the results. Just wanted to point out one thing, don't know if it changes the result. You had
[ ] Make a public statement about the attacks on Metropolis
DC 0
Roll 5 +15 (Marie diplomacy stat)= 20
Minor success
but me and @jonasquinn raised Marie's diplomacy to 16 a while back, so it should be 21 (again might have no effect unless it pushed it to the next tier).
 
@King crimson Overall I'm happy with the results. Just wanted to point out one thing, don't know if it changes the result. You had

but me and @jonasquinn raised Marie's diplomacy to 16 a while back, so it should be 21 (again might have no effect unless it pushed it to the next tier).
I'll double check it and fix things if necessary. Suffice to say it will have a tiny difference but not enough for me to change what I've written.

Edit: an error was made and I have corrected it
 
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Well spreadsheet has been updated, no new heroes reaching the 1 coop with lex for an extra action but we did pick up some nice coop gains and Pam really boosted her stewardship right into heroic levels.

For the car I think we work on it again next turn, this is good as a proof of concept but we need to refine it. Oswald and Carol going back to TV and Ferris industries for a couple of turns is fine, both are things that expand our power through influence and money which is more of a background concern but it does impact what options are available to us.

On Jade, how old is she? If she is 18 and legally an adult we have a lot more ability to let her move in. Also @King crimson our wards are back online including the anti-bad intent right? If so and it is a trap then Jade should trigger that
 
On Jade, how old is she? If she is 18 and legally an adult we have a lot more ability to let her move in. Also @King crimson our wards are back online including the anti-bad intent right? If so and it is a trap then Jade should trigger that
She's currently 16 and a half. Yes your wards are back online and the anti-bad intent ones would likely prevent a traditional trap. It wouldn't prevent something crazy like Sportsmaster sticking a bomb inside of Jade and then detonating it to kill someone (which is admittedly a little far-fetched) so a trap is still possible, it's just a question of how much Sportsmaster is willing to do to achieve his aims (which the quest-goers probably have a better grasp on than Lex).
 
@Void Stalker do you mind if I threadmark a post in informational for the spreadsheet? I think it's a good resource for players and even if I'm not updating it personally it is kept up to date pretty well and so I think having it easier to access might help people come to decisions about stuff.
My google fu fails me, whose Liselle Sloane?
Liselle Sloane is a character who doesn't appear in comics but has appeared in quest in the Metropolitan Clan omakes. Specifically she is an ancestor of Lex's who married into a family that eventually gave birth to Terry Sloane AKA Mister Terrific. She also did something with medicine that was scientifically significant (I believe something to do with immunization) but it's currently slipping my mind.

Edit: checked some notes and found out that on top of the thing that's slipping my mind Liselle Sloane also helped found the Red Cross earlier than IRL

Second edit: I dug through even more things and found exactly what she was famous for in universe. In universe she was the recipient of the 1903 Nobel prize for Medicine for her work on vaccines for cholera and typhoid fever.
 
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I kinda want to leave the Metahuman school name as is and name the Music building after Lex's mom, the science one we can name after Ivo.
 
I kinda want to leave the Metahuman school name as is and name the Music building after Lex's mom, the science one we can name after Ivo.
I didn't consider having an option to name a music building (it was going to be the science building and maybe a push for the whole school) but I like the option to name the music building after Lex's mother so much I'm including it in the subvote. Thank you for posting this. I don't give exp for subvote write-ins so I'm not going to award exp for it but I am including it as an option sicne its really good and makes sense and is in character.
 
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She's currently 16 and a half. Yes your wards are back online and the anti-bad intent ones would likely prevent a traditional trap. It wouldn't prevent something crazy like Sportsmaster sticking a bomb inside of Jade and then detonating it to kill someone (which is admittedly a little far-fetched) so a trap is still possible, it's just a question of how much Sportsmaster is willing to do to achieve his aims (which the quest-goers probably have a better grasp on than Lex).
So basically if Jade does not realize it is a trap it goes through, if she does know then it does not. Of course that also is reliant on Sportsmaster understanding what sort of defenses we have in place as not knowing we have wards up means he is trying to bypass tech defenses that operate and are defeated in an entirely different manner.

@Void Stalker do you mind if I threadmark a post in informational for the spreadsheet? I think it's a good resource for players and even if I'm not updating it personally it is kept up to date pretty well and so I think having it easier to access might help people come to decisions about stuff.
I think the best spot would be adding the link to the post with Lex and the other heroes, it is intended as a player resource for a quick glance to see who can do what.
 
And if she's not, we might want to avoid developing a reputation among dangerous assassins for taking their kids. Once is an anomaly, but twice could start to look like a pattern.
We've already done it twice. No, three times. Cassandra is the daughter of two dangerous assassins, and then there's Rose, who we admittedly didn't steal, but still.

She's currently 16 and a half. Yes your wards are back online and the anti-bad intent ones would likely prevent a traditional trap. It wouldn't prevent something crazy like Sportsmaster sticking a bomb inside of Jade and then detonating it to kill someone (which is admittedly a little far-fetched) so a trap is still possible, it's just a question of how much Sportsmaster is willing to do to achieve his aims (which the quest-goers probably have a better grasp on than Lex).
Plus, even the average high-end individual like Sportsmaster probably still doesn't know how our wards do what they do, unless he knows about magic and maybe not even then.

My google fu fails me, whose Liselle Sloane?
Sorry, that was indirectly cruel of me. I made her up. Liselle Sloane (nee Luthor) was Leland Luthor's little sister, the WWII Mister Terrific's paternal grandmother, and Lex's great-great-great-great-aunt. She used her superpowers of getting bored easily and being very very good at nagging to battle the deadliest menaces of her time.

Specifically, she independently rediscovered John Snow's cholera results because she was bored out of her skull from deportment lessons in the early 1860s. She then nagged her brother into putting his weight behind the construction of Metropolis' first reasonably sanitary waterworks system, and then into building her a microbiology lab, which she made considerable use of. She escalated from there, prevailing upon family friendships to nag President Grant into helping to organize the American Red Cross six years ahead of schedule.

She kept SCIENCE!-ing from there.

In 1903, Mrs. Sloane (nee Luthor) received the Nobel Prize for Medicine for discovering vaccines for cholera and typhoid fever, making her the first American Nobel laureate and one of two women to win the Prize that year; the other was Marie Curie.
 
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