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[X] Attempt to recruit the Wilson children
We already have a corporate psychiatrist.If possibly rolling well next recruitment phase, I pray we can get to hire Dr. Harleen Frances Quinzel as LexCorp's corporate psychologist before she gets hired by Arkham and meets Mistah J.
Dammit.
I agree with your point about it being unlikely to recruit Harley (she did go to arhkam to write a book about extreme personality like Joker, so I doubt she would go for us) Personally I think DC is not really consistent with Harley some times they have her as stupid and slept her way through others she is actually good at her job and was always crazy Joker just brought it outWe've also been told repeatedly that hiring Quinzel would be fairly unlikely, simply because she's such an obscure individual with no particular desire to leave Gotham. Realistically, how would we find her as a choice on our roster, aside from OOC desire to hire Harley Quinn?
For that matter, why would we want to hire Harley Quinn? There's no evidence that she was a particularly gifted psychiatrist/psychologist. The fact that one of her patients suborned her like that isn't a good sign even if it is the Joker. And we probably wouldn't be hiring her with the explicit plan to turn her into some kind of master henchwoman. It just wouldn't make sense in character.
So I'll ask what might be a dumb question but why not just cut the Gordian knot and give her both the warsuit and the martial arts? The two aren't mutually exclusive.@King crimson so I wanted to give a future Cassandra omake a try and while her going through high school with Jinx would be fun and full of hijinx to read about, I am not a girl so I don't think I can do it justice. So I'll go with her interaction with Robin prompt instead. I want a second opinion on what should Cassandra be like here. Should she be similar to Robin, a martial artist with a variety of gadgets from the LexCorp staff (knock out gas from Pamela, magic shields and armor from Rebecca and Mari, Robot drones from Lex, and hacking programs from Felicity) or would she have a slimmer version of the War Suit and be like Rescue?
I'm going to include a fight scene cause those are fun for me to write and I can't decide which one I want more. The Martial artist route would have a precedent since a lot of Robin's major antagonists are martial artists, but the War Suit would have a strong influence of mentor and protege (Batman and Robin, Green Arrow and Speedy, Flash and Kid Flash) so Lex and Cassandra both wearing armor would keep to the theme. Anyone could chime in and give their opinions too if they want but I am having a really tough time deciding which one to choose.
Well, firstly it makes her a somewhat less interesting antagonist for, say, Robin.So I'll ask what might be a dumb question but why not just cut the Gordian knot and give her both the warsuit and the martial arts? The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Influence from her Martial Arts teachers? League of Shadows members are Luddites and Martial Arts purists who disdain Hi-Tech weapons IIRC. But Lex's influence may prove a stronger influence.So I'll ask what might be a dumb question but why not just cut the Gordian knot and give her both the warsuit and the martial arts? The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Unless you go G-Gundam and her opponents also do the same.Secondly, there's just this... vibe, you know? This genre thing. Martial arts conflicts are on a very 'human' scale, with both parties having strengths and defenses that are comprehensible in human form. It just doesn't feel like karate when it's being done by a mighty walking battle tank of a person.
I am fully in favor of this idea, but who would Cassandra's antagonists be then?
Toyman?I am fully in favor of this idea, but who would Cassandra's antagonists be then?
[Yes, I'm serious. DC martial artists plus warsuits plus G-Gundam crossover yay]
I did thought of that with the "Why not both" meme but it does make her feel a bit too overpowered and not fun. If Cassandra could just stand there after taking a hit from Robin which is going to be easy in an armored exosuit, there wouldn't be a need for her martial arts training. It'd probably see use against stronger opponents like Cyborg but against weaker opponents like regular or peak human, Cassandra could just bulldoze everything Robin could do to her. This is where most of my uncertainty lies. Robin would need his heavier hitters to handle Cassandra which wouldn't be as fun to write about. Robin would probably need his own power armor to stand on equal ground but I doubt he'd do that as he had never used one, even when facing villains like Cinderblock (I'll say that Cinderblock still have squishy insides so he can be knocked out with a hard enough hit but the War suit will probably be cushioned so Robin will break his hand or staff before he can dent the War Suit), Adonis, or Trigon. In short, War suit vs Robin = not fun steam roll unless Robin tag teams with the team who can punch much harder.So I'll ask what might be a dumb question but why not just cut the Gordian knot and give her both the warsuit and the martial arts? The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Rocket Reds, Feurworks, Damage, S.T.R.I.P.E. and Barricade (a minor Steel villain) or even Steel or Natasha Irons could work. That's only sticking with straight up powered armor and martial arts. Others could also work well of you are willing to drop the mecha suit function a bit (like all Lanterns would count under that)I am fully in favor of this idea, but who would Cassandra's antagonists be then?
I figured it was a bit of an odd question. Here is how I would do it though. Have Cassandra stick to the gadgets and martial arts for a while and she's this terrifying unrelenting force that keeps coming at Robin from unexpected angles. However Robin can keep up and occasionally catch her off guard with improvisational skills and counter with gadgets.I did thought of that with the "Why not both" meme but it does make her feel a bit too overpowered and not fun. If Cassandra could just stand there after taking a hit from Robin which is going to be easy in an armored exosuit, there wouldn't be a need for her martial arts training. It'd probably see use against stronger opponents like Cyborg but against weaker opponents like regular or peak human, Cassandra could just bulldoze everything Robin could do to her. This is where most of my uncertainty lies. Robin would need his heavier hitters to handle Cassandra which wouldn't be as fun to write about. Robin would probably need his own power armor to stand on equal ground but I doubt he'd do that as he had never used one, even when facing villains like Cinderblock (I'll say that Cinderblock still have squishy insides so he can be knocked out with a hard enough hit but the War suit will probably be cushioned so Robin will break his hand or staff before he can dent the War Suit), Adonis, or Trigon. In short, War suit vs Robin = not fun steam roll unless Robin tag teams with the team who can punch much harder.
I don't think Cassandra will be as obsessed as Slade is with Robin. I think the dynamic will be more like a Catwoman and Batman. Cassandra having fun, being a tease, while also seeing Robin as the perfect sparring partner to keep her skills up as a fellow martial artist while Robin tries to ignore whatever Cassandra is saying and be stoic as a rock like Batman. Starfire being jealous is a funny side effect.I figured it was a bit of an odd question. Here is how I would do it though. Have Cassandra stick to the gadgets and martial arts for a while and she's this terrifying unrelenting force that keeps coming at Robin from unexpected angles. However Robin can keep up and occasionally catch her off guard with improvisational skills and counter with gadgets.
Then later Cassandra gets bored and busts out the powered armor switching the dynamic of the fight from scary ninja battle where Robin can hold his own to him desperately stalling for time and running away.
If you've seen the Teen Titans cartoon I'd equate it to Slade's return in season four. If he was a threat without powers how does Robin stand a chance now that powers are in play. It's a similar narrative trick that you could employ.
This isn't definitive and you could ignore all of this, I'm just spitballing how you could work in both and keep it an interesting fight