Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
Identity theft is not a joke, Crimson! Millions of families suffer every year.
...and we could add to that number.

Leslie didn't think it would be an incredibly popular broadcast, as much fun as she was going to have lambasting the morons, Ultraviolet had captured the Survivalists before they could set their plan in motion, meaning they weren't exactly the most newsworthy. Still Leslie was always happy to kick a terrorist while he's down and so now people could hear her do so on the air.
I suspect that her regulars enjoyed hearing it, anyway.

The various personal actions were generally cool. I'm realizing, though... Lex is really leveraging the degree to which the more criminally inclined are rightly in fear of him. Like, it's kind of low-key, but normally there would be risks involved with staffing your new business entirely with ambitious young people with criminal backgrounds.

Not if you're LexCorp. They know better.
 
So much for anti chest.
Not if you're LexCorp. They know better.
Indeed. Anyone who's anyone in the criminal world will tell you not to mess with Lex, so our hires no better, and best of all, with all these rewards and quality pay, ect, they have no reason to think a life of crime is more profitable, especially with the recent demonstration with what happens to embezzlers.
 
The various personal actions were generally cool. I'm realizing, though... Lex is really leveraging the degree to which the more criminally inclined are rightly in fear of him. Like, it's kind of low-key, but normally there would be risks involved with staffing your new business entirely with ambitious young people with criminal backgrounds.

Not if you're LexCorp. They know better.
So I do want to point out that this technically isn't what's going on here.

Lex isn't leveraging reputation, Jade is. The workers at the Wonderland races have no idea that Lex is involved. All they know is that their boss is able to get an insane amount of resources from someone else. Couple that with the fact that Jade is offering them very good money for easy work, and that she's demonstrably dangerous and they generally aren't too prone to rocking the boat.
 
Because i want to figure out how to make Talons for ourselves
Fair though it the situation arose we could probably take steps to figure that out by directing one without needing to join the Court.
Honestly I am not that interested in stewardship.
I mean.. to each their own and all but I literally cannot understand how you hold this opinion.

Cassandra is our heir and Stewardship is arguably the single most important stat in that regard.
As for Cass special actions I'd think that coop scores are more important than pure stats (since they multiply those stats).
Okay sure but that doesn't make the stat itself any less significant.

Not only does it still have a significant effect when working with other hero units with a good coop score but it also makes things much easier when dealing with ones without one.
We even have special action for this on Raven's side:

[ ] [Raven] Socialize Raven with peers about her age at LexCorp
DC ??? (Raven and one other hero unit must be assigned to this action for it to be taken) (DC varies depending on hero units assigned) (Diplomacy) Alternatively, you could attempt to exploit Raven's desire to conform and fit in by warping her perception of a "normal teenage girl". By having raven socialize primarily with the LexCorp peers you have chosen her to, you might be able to forcibly forge bonds between Raven and members of Cassandra's generation and tie Raven closer than ever to your company. You might even be able to alter her behavior if you're successful enough.


Effects look more or less similar to propaganda action, plus there would be less resistance from Raven. And no need to worry about Helena opinion on teaching propoganda to children. I think it is something to consider.

DC is ??? but it said to depend on hero units so perhaps QM will tell us if we ask about specific team.
You raise a fair point here, depending on the DC and if we improve Cassandra's Stewardship it might be worth it to do this rather than propaganda.

@King crimson would you be willing to tell us the DC for this action if we're to out, say, Raven, Cassandra and Helena or Raven, Cassandra and Starfire on it?
Yes, but there is a limit to how far coops can rise. Our current plan is to put Cassandra, Starfire and Jinx on the Hire Cassandra a Martial Arts Tutor action turn 34. Currently the team would have Starfire and her +22 Stewardship leading, with Cassandra providing her coop of 2 × 18 stewardship = +36 and Jinx coop of 1.5 × 15 Stewardship = +23, for a total of + 81.

Thus, we see some appeal in both getting another trait and raising Cassandra's Stewardship for a better chance at an amazing result, and thus desire to take a special action turn 33 that will raise said stat. This naturally makes taking an action to socialize Cassandra with her peers in Lexcorp less appealing, as her coop with starfire is already max, and unless her stewardship rises, increasing her coop with Jinx will not be relevant to our strategy.

Were xp to be spent raising Cassandra's stewardship to 23 however, she would be leading the action, and it's suddenly Cassandra with +23, Starfire with +44(coop 2 × 22 Stewardship) and Jinx with +27(coop 1.8 × 15 stewardahip) for a total of +94. Cassandra has no peers with better stewardship than Starfire and Jinx. With raising her stewardship handled and thus no longer a priority, raising Cassandra's coops through socialization becomes more appealing as competing priorities wane.

As such, raising Cassandra's stewardship with xp is the best way to increase the odds a cass special action related to her socializing passes.
A minor detail, while I fully agree with your overall point your maths is slightly wrong.

Unless I'm misremembering Cassandra cannot lead actions regardless of her stats because she's still a child so even with an improved Stewardship Starfire would still lead the action.

So the new bonus would be +91 not +94, still a significant improvement but a difference worth accounting for.
[ ] [Karl] Attempt to write a daily journal
It's good to see Karl is staying relatively stable and taking steps to help himself.
[ ] [Loomis] Speak with Siobhan
Very sweet, I'm glad Siobhan finally worked up the courage to talk to Oswald and that he got a chance to see how impactful his work can be.

The coop boost is just a nice bonus.
[ ] [Nygma] Code a program to solve word searches
"AlphabetEye" hmm? Better make sure it doesn't have any siblings.
[ ] [Rose] Ɔouʇǝɯdlɐʇǝ ɥǝɹ ɯᴉssᴉuƃ ǝʎǝ
So Rose is coming back and has seemingly worked out that there is some sort of strange connection between herself and her father.

It isn't clear if they ever found Jericho and I'm starting to suspect that he's involved with the Church of Blood due to the HIVE connections and his usual connections to the Teen Titans and Trigon.
[ ] [Moon] Contemplate if zeta beams can be used to combine living creatures together
God…damnit Moon.
[ ] [Mick] Talk to Nathan Warbow
Roll 7

Mick didn't really know all that much about Nathan. He saw the guy every so often and recognized him as "that guy Mick argues politics with occasionally"
@King crimson i assume the bold part is meant to be Leonard?
[ ] [Lucy] Try to talk with her sister
I'm torn on this one, on the one hand Lucy and Lois' relationship worsening is good for us because it makes Lucy more dependent on us but on the other hand them getting along doesn't exactly hurt us and makes Lois less likely to get suspicious.
[ ] [Meena] See the effects Gingo fruit extract has on mice
It's easy to forget how much of a monster Meena can be.

Those poor mice.
[ ] [Louise] Attempt to keep her head down in Bialya
I mean, we didn't mean it as a punishment/threat but if she wants to take it as one…

Also just a good way of showing how unsettling Bialya can be to an outsider.
[ ] [Paige] Attempt to visit a private spa
[ ] [Meld] Try to covertly help Paige Monroe on a bad day
I know we want to have Devereux get some therapy, and we absolutely should do that at some point, but I definitely think we should sit Paige down and try and at least rein some of her issues in.
[ ] [Banshee] Take final exams
I'm with ya Siobhan, exams are an outdated method that don't prove anything and just give people complexes.
[ ] [Fixit] 01000011 01101111 01101110 01110100 01100101 01101101 01110000 01101100 01100001 01110100 01100101 00100000 01001100 01101001 01100110 01100101 00100000 01001101 01101111 01100100 01100101 01101100 00100000 01000100 01100101 01100011 01101111 01111001 00100000 01000100 01110010 01101111 01101110 01100101 01110011 00001010 00001010
It's good that Fixit is interested in continuing his work on LMD's since we want him doing that anyway, it's even better to have an explicit statement that they're not quite ready for robotic conversion yet but aren't far off.
[ ] [Villain] Look into buying an antique pocket watch
Ha, fuck you Villain.
[ ] [Cub] Deign to engage in games with the ice person
Such a good boy, I say this four the hundredth time but we really need to get around to doing that lion intelligence spell especially if we want to use Brown's serum on him at some point.
 
@King crimson would you be willing to tell us the DC for this action if we're to out, say, Raven, Cassandra and Helena or Raven, Cassandra and Starfire on it?
Yes but let me get some sleep first. It's nearly midnight and I've got stuff going on tomorrow. I'll give a definitive answer by 8 pm PST tomorrow to this question.
"AlphabetEye" hmm? Better make sure it doesn't have any siblings.
If it makes you feel any better, one of the names I scrapped for the program was "Scrowley" but the link felt too tenuous so I went with AlphabetEye, as a more literal description of what the program does.

I will say I now kind of want to write a comedy omake where Nygma brings about a big crisis event due to him making a program to solve crossword puzzles ala the Brother Eye stuff.
@King crimson i assume the bold part is meant to be Leonard?
Yeah I'll fix that.
It's easy to forget how much of a monster Meena can be.

Those poor mice.
Glad to see this landed as intended. Meena's a lot nicer than most mad scientists, but make no mistake, she's very much in the same vein of most mad scientists. I think Meena's actually a really scary mad scientist character because she gets people to drop their guard around her. I'll also say that the initial draft actually made Meena even more monstrous but I ended up cutting stuff and rewriting it because Meena's generally competent in gauging long term costs and benefits, and she's not sadistic.
Also just a good way of showing how unsettling Bialya can be to an outsider.
Bialya generally isn't as out and out scary to outsiders, but it's a country of virtual nightmare fuel when you start thinking about what exactly is going on there.
 
Bialya generally isn't as out and out scary to outsiders, but it's a country of virtual nightmare fuel when you start thinking about what exactly is going on there.
Hmmm..Bialya should develop it's Industry under the Monaco model as a tax haven and a playground for the Rich & Famous. They won't bother to think and expect subservience in the service sector anyways.

Add in LexCorp security cameras everywhere and Queen Bee will have enough Kompromat as a political leader on the World Stage to never need too much Mind Control.
 
I'm torn on this one, on the one hand Lucy and Lois' relationship worsening is good for us because it makes Lucy more dependent on us but on the other hand them getting along doesn't exactly hurt us and makes Lois less likely to get suspicious.
I'm liking it at least for right now because it makes it less likely for Lois to be obsessing about LexCorp when we'd much prefer that she be falling for Wayne (and vice versa). Admittedly... Bruce isn't all that likely to settle down if he's still selling that playboy image. Still, a guy can dream, right?
 
If it makes you feel any better, one of the names I scrapped for the program was "Scrowley" but the link felt too tenuous so I went with AlphabetEye, as a more literal description of what the program does.
Can LexCorp liscense it from Nygma for Handshake? Or assist Nygma in licensing deals with Kord & other businesses? Nygma is a great programmer but he sucks at business.
 
I mean.. to each their own and all but I literally cannot understand how you hold this opinion.

Cassandra is our heir and Stewardship is arguably the single most important stat in that regard.
I can explain this. Cass replacing Lex as the CEO is the end game stuff (unless we get Lex killed or kidnapped). Stats I assume are less relevant for it, than for the game itself. I mean either we have everything under control and it does not matter if Cass have 30 or 20 stewardship at this point or everyone is dead. I very much doubt that QM will go with: you left company in good state but I made quadrillion rolls for the aftermath and conluded that in epilogue 100 years after your company is broke, because you have not invested in stewardship heavy enough. I guess that Cass stewardship can have some narrative weight but as long as it is not in single digits I doubt that it would affect things that much.

And again that is something that is real time years from now, even if we hopefully get to this point. Cass taking over financial part of management is not even something set in the stone. What if we make Lex immortal or as digital consciousness and leave boring parts to him, while Cass work on scientific breakthroughs ? Or being busy conquering galaxy? We don't know how things will play themselves on such lengthy scale. At least in part it would depend on Cass own preferences when she became old enough to have them beyond being focused on what Lex want from her.

What should matter is how her stats would be used in the game now or in near future, i.e. before she takes reins of the company. And the thing is majority of stewardship actions are not that interesting. They are very important of course, but it mostly expand that or start producing this. You can't write riveting story about Cass fighting bureaucratic machine. You invest in stewardship and you are forced to put Cass on those actions, when you can have arguably better rewards and more interesting storylines from putting her on diplomatic efforts or investigations. Or if you spend resources on raising Cass stewardship and then don't put her on it, then what was the point, except for nice number in her stat page?

Finding Martial teacher for Cass is one action where her stat could be useful, but it is not quite deal breaker for me. When it comes to a single action I doubt that we can't gather a good team without raising Cass stats. Hell it was forever since Cass and Lex worked together, if we can I am all for them making a trip together to search of the martial teacher.
You raise a fair point here, depending on the DC and if we improve Cassandra's Stewardship it might be worth it to do this rather than propaganda.

King crimson would you be willing to tell us the DC for this action if we're to out, say, Raven, Cassandra and Helena or Raven, Cassandra and Starfire on it?
I had a different teams in mind, but the more data points the better. In particular I wanted to see how hard would be to improve Raven coops with Jinx ( I assume it will increase DC but with good team it could be worth it), also Oswald can be a good support hero on this action. I'll made some calculations and suggest teams later if I don't end up too busy today. Tell me what plans you already have for Oswald, Jinx and maybe Pamela if you can, so I can take it under consideration.


I get that, but plenty of us are into stewardship and even more into getting Cassandra a competent martial arts teacher. We don''t want to do this turn 33 because Jinx, who we want to use for her high(1.8) coop with Cassandra is needed for a different action. However we are still interested in raising Cass Stewardship in general, and especially in prep for the hire an martial arts teacher Cass special action.

Same question to you Randino. What is this action you want to put Jinx on next turn?
 
I can explain this. Cass replacing Lex as the CEO is the end game stuff (unless we get Lex killed or kidnapped). Stats I assume are less relevant for it, than for the game itself. I mean either we have everything under control and it does not matter if Cass have 30 or 20 stewardship at this point or everyone is dead. I very much doubt that QM will go with: you left company in good state but I made quadrillion rolls for the aftermath and conluded that in epilogue 100 years after your company is broke, because you have not invested in stewardship heavy enough. I guess that Cass stewardship can have some narrative weight but as long as it is not in single digits I doubt that it would affect things that much.

And again that is something that is real time years from now, even if we hopefully get to this point. Cass taking over financial part of management is not even something set in the stone. What if we make Lex immortal or as digital consciousness and leave boring parts to him, while Cass work on scientific breakthroughs ? Or being busy conquering galaxy? We don't know how things will play themselves on such lengthy scale. At least in part it would depend on Cass own preferences when she became old enough to have them beyond being focused on what Lex want from her.
There are a few major flaws in this logic IMO:

1) We could easily end up in a position where Lex can't run LexCorp directly anymore. Maybe he becomes President or Secretary General or King of his own planet. Either way having Cassandra ready to fill the role just in case is just good planning.

2) Cassandra has actively and continuously voiced her desire to be more involved with the running of LexCorp, improving her Stewardship is a major part of that.

3) Low Stewardship can narratively effect a lot of things, for example it makes her less likely to notice suspicious finances when conducting an investigation or more likely to be taken advantage of by people like Villain.
What should matter is how her stats would be used in the game now or in near future, i.e. before she takes reins of the company. And the thing is majority of stewardship actions are not that interesting. They are very important of course, but it mostly expand that or start producing this. You can't write riveting story about Cass fighting bureaucratic machine. You invest in stewardship and you are forced to put Cass on those actions, when you can have arguably better rewards and more interesting storylines from putting her on diplomatic efforts or investigations. Or if you spend resources on raising Cass stewardship and then don't put her on it, then what was the point, except for nice number in her stat page?
While how interesting you find Stewardship actions is a matter of personal opinion there's no denying the fact that it is arguably the most important type of action in the entire quest and it'd be kinda insane to have Cassandra just… not be good at it when we could change that.

Also the idea that if we bump her Stewardship then we must use her on those actions is kind insane, it just means we can if the need arises without it being a huge pain to try and find the perfect team.
Finding Martial teacher for Cass is one action where her stat could be useful, but it is not quite deal breaker for me. When it comes to a single action I doubt that we can't gather a good team without raising Cass stats. Hell it was forever since Cass and Lex worked together, if we can I am all for them making a trip together to search of the martial teacher.
Yes we theoretically could make a team that works but it will mean having to sacrifice hero units elsewhere when we could easily just work around it and make all our lives simpler.

Also we're almost certainly never going to waste Lex on something like that.
I had a different teams in mind, but the more data points the better. In particular I wanted to see how hard would be to improve Raven coops with Jinx ( I assume it will increase DC but with good team it could be worth it), also Oswald can be a good support hero on this action.
I don't think it would be a good idea to have Jinx on this. While we would like to boost their coop score a bit the fact that it's actively negative at the moment would probably cause more problems than it's worth.
Tell me what plans you already have for Oswald, Jinx and maybe Pamela if you can, so I can take it under consideration.
Right now I'm thinking we put Oswald and Leslie on giving her her own show, Pamela and someone else on Gingo Fruit and Jinx is more flexible.

The plan last I was aware was having her, Helena and Mercy on indoctrinating Raven but depending on what the DC for socialising Raven is for certain characters we might be able to spare Jinx elsewhere.
 
Isn't Shiva going to test her eventually? So martial to survive what's coming would probably equal in importance.
She already has 29 Martial, functionally 44, and all the assets of LexCorp at her disposal to deal with the Lady Shiva situation on top of her ??? trait, it's not really a concern.

Plus we fully intend to hire her an instructor that can help her with her chi and thus improve her Martial further, but doing so is a Stewardship action and therefore benefits from improving it as well.
 
She already has 29 Martial, functionally 44, and all the assets of LexCorp at her disposal to deal with the Lady Shiva situation on top of her ??? trait, it's not really a concern.

Plus we fully intend to hire her an instructor that can help her with her chi and thus improve her Martial further, but doing so is a Stewardship action and therefore benefits from improving it as well.
It only benefits if we put Cass on it. We don't have to use her to find her own instructor.

Shiva isn't going to get at Cass where she can call on Lexcorp resources. She's smart and resourceful enough to put her in an ideal testing situation. Secondly what is 29 martial when it comes to the world stage? Traits also matter as seen by strategist and the shipwarfare traits. If Cassandra had the same stewardship without the traits or narrative to rule a country in wartime would she still be unable to do it or would it be greatly weakened comparatively? The same likely goes for martial since I expect the test is for Cass to surpass Shive herself. Shiva probably has a lot of traits in martial and intrigue considering her business.
 
It only benefits if we put Cass on it. We don't have to use her to find her own instructor.
True but why wouldn't we? It's a Cassandra special action and her being on it makes it significantly more likely that she gets a teacher that can actually teach her something.
Shiva isn't going to get at Cass where she can call on Lexcorp resources.
Cassandra rarely, if ever, leaves LexCorp property.
Secondly what is 29 martial when it comes to the world stage?
44 and a lot, a stat in the 30's tends to put you among the best in the world.
Traits also matter as seen by strategist and the shipwarfare traits. If Cassandra had the same stewardship without the traits or narrative to rule a country in wartime would she still be unable to do it or would it be greatly weakened comparatively?
I have no idea what you mean by this.
The same likely goes for martial since I expect the test is for Cass to surpass Shive herself. Shiva probably has a lot of traits in martial and intrigue considering her business.
Sure Shiva probably does have traits but we can't account for those and attempting to do so quickly leads to paranoia.

We also don't really have to worry about Shiva killing or severely injuring Cassandra for a few major reasons:

1) Characters do not die easily.
2) Doing so would prevent her from achieving her own goal.
3) Ra's wouldn't allow her to do so as long as we are allies.
 
Same question to you Randino. What is this action you want to put Jinx on next turn?
Teach raven Lexcorp propaganda. Statistically, Helena, Jinx, and Mercy form a strong team in spite of Raven's opposition.

Narratively Helena brings the recent gratification of completing her vengeance with LexCorp aid and increased loyalty. Jinx can hammer on the luxury and privileges Raven herself has been enjoying and tales of her childhood before LexCorp and how much harder Raven could have had it. Mercy comes in as the person who has been with Lex the longest, who has watched LexCorp steadily grow as a company and diversify into area's beneficial to the world, and the steady improvement in terms of local living standards and ability to defend itself.
some other things I have in mind for turn 33 that use heroes feasible for a strong Diplomacy team for either girl are

¹Improve Odin Tech(Lex + Caitlin)(critical given the incoming Kryptonian invasion and the potential benefits of an advance anti-kryptonian orbital laser cannon defense network)
²Learn about Ginko Fruit(Pamela and some kind of team(depends on whether or not we are carrying out human testing with bone growth serum)that I haven't finalized yet)(long desired)
³I don't have anything in mind for Oswald but his coop with Raven is terrible, with Raven neither liking or respecting him. Their a bad matchup to be frank.

That said, there is an approach that could work with major investment of heroes who are useful for things outside there intrigue and martial, which will limit our actions elsewhere. Have Oswald(+39) lead Cassandra(+27 with trait) for +66, and team up Starfire(+24), Helena(+22 with trait and coop) Jinx(+20 with coop) and Raven(+5 with coop) for +71, and a double down because this is important.

I'd be willing to agree to this, but I'd still be planning to take the action to hire a martial arts tutor turn 34, which without the artificial increase to Cass's stewardship, is still a little too high in margin of error, and Lex is likely to be busy(just learning alone there is Cold engine, Brainiac, and possible bone growth serum for Karl). Thus I'd hope for some assistance in raising Cassandra's stats to better our odds, much as I may raise jinx's diplomacy in prep for turn 33 raven special action.
Unless I'm misremembering Cassandra cannot lead actions regardless of her stats because she's still a child so even with an improved Stewardship Starfire would still lead the action.
I thought KC had decided to relax that with Cassandra getting older and being particularly mature for her age and manipulative? I know she leads learning actions.
She already has 29 Martial, functionally 44, and all the assets of LexCorp at her disposal to deal with the Lady Shiva situation on top of her ??? trait, it's not really a concern.
She has 32 martial, functionally 47, until we vote on her trait/traits in results 4, which may include options to raise her martial further.
It only benefits if we put Cass on it. We don't have to use her to find her own instructor.
Some prideful martial arts instructors might insist on only teaching a student who is "worth there time" which makes involving Cassandra in the action worthwhile. It also let's us separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of those skilled enough to teach Cassandra.
Secondly what is 29 martial when it comes to the world stage?
Well for comparison, Siobhan had a martial of 28 with her superhuman strength, regeneration, and devastating scream attacks. This turn both she and Cassandra reached a Martial of 32, her by learning to overclock her body to even greater superhuman fears of strength and speed as well as greater control over her banshee scream, Cassandra by becoming an adept strategist.

Thus, we can say that Siobhan, a powerful undead metahuman with enhanced physical abilities and phonic manipulation, is mechanically equal to Cassandra, until Cassandra leverages her Living weapon trait to become nearly half again as powerful as Siobhan. Martial arts, firearms, explosives, and strategy are enough to neutralize Siobhan's metahuman advantages. Add her body reading from living weapon and verbal manipulation and she is nearly half again as powerful.

For additional comparison, Damocles data estimates superman to have a martial of around 45. Functionally, Cassandra is potentially superior to superman in martial, and we still have a trait to pick this turn that could raise our abilities further.
 
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For additional comparison, Damocles data estimates superman to have a martial of around 45. Functionally, Cassandra is potentially superior to superman in martial, and we still have a trait to pick this turn that could raise our abilities further.
How would that work? Unless she's carrying around a kryptonite weapon or a magic item she shouldn't be able to do DMG to Superman no master what.

Didn't he have a trait for that? Trying to find where is character info is to check.
 
How would that work? Unless she's carrying around a kryptonite weapon or a magic item she shouldn't be able to do DMG to Superman no master what.

Didn't he have a trait for that? Trying to find where is character info is to check.
She martial arts, guns and explosives, plus body reading, let's her incorporate kryptonite bombs and other kryptonite weapons into dismantling him. Hard to estimate how much damage she would do, but it would definitely be some, and lingering at that.
 
What are the next results going to be?
On a lunch break so I'm replying on my phone, please forgive any errors that crop up as a result from it. The general way things work with results is part 1 is part 1 is your actions, part 2 is personal actions, part 3 is others actions, part 4 is non-plan subvotes and part 5 is plan subvotes. From there I do other stuff as appropriate but stop labeling it "results". Last turn I split part 5 and I might end up needing to do so again.
 
That said, there is an approach that could work with major investment of heroes who are useful for things outside there intrigue and martial, which will limit our actions elsewhere. Have Oswald(+39) lead Cassandra(+27 with trait) for +66, and team up Starfire(+24), Helena(+22 with trait and coop) Jinx(+20 with coop) and Raven(+5 with coop) for +71, and a double down because this is important.
That seems a bit resource intensive when just Cassandra, Raven and Starfire are a bonus +84 regardless of if Cassandra or Starfire are in charge.
I'd be willing to agree to this, but I'd still be planning to take the action to hire a martial arts tutor turn 34, which without the artificial increase to Cass's stewardship, is still a little too high in margin of error, and Lex is likely to be busy(just learning alone there is Cold engine, Brainiac, and possible bone growth serum for Karl). Thus I'd hope for some assistance in raising Cassandra's stats to better our odds, much as I may raise jinx's diplomacy in prep for turn 33 raven special action.
I was planning on saving my exp to boost Marie's Diplomacy to the cap preformed she was roboticisezed but given that will be at least another two turns now I'd be willing to spend 2000 on Cassandra's Stewardship if you do the same.
I thought KC had decided to relax that with Cassandra getting older and being particularly mature for her age and manipulative? I know she leads learning actions.
I'm not sure, I don't remember that but I could be wrong.

@King crimson you mind weighing in here?
Some prideful martial arts instructors might insist on only teaching a student who is "worth there time" which makes involving Cassandra in the action worthwhile. It also let's us separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of those skilled enough to teach Cassandra.
Plus Cassandra actually having chi might mean she's more likely to weigh results in favour of a teacher that also has it.
How would that work? Unless she's carrying around a kryptonite weapon or a magic item she shouldn't be able to do DMG to Superman no master what.

Didn't he have a trait for that? Trying to find where is character info is to check.
Superman has a trait that causes any attack that doesn't beat him by at least 35 to be negated as long as he's in yellow sunlight and it isn't kyrptonite or magic based.
 
That seems a bit resource intensive when just Cassandra, Raven and Starfire are a bonus +84 regardless of if Cassandra or Starfire are in charge.
I don't like to not use special actions. I'd rather invest the heavy resources than not have Cassandra take her own version. Also it feels like Cassandra participating in a Raven Special diplomacy action without Jinx would exasperate there issues or at least fail to fix them. Plus, taking them together would provide synergy, so even if one rolled low it might benefit from the other actions high success.
I was planning on saving my exp to boost Marie's Diplomacy to the cap preformed she was roboticisezed but given that will be at least another two turns now I'd be willing to spend 2000 on Cassandra's Stewardship if you do the same.
Well we don't have to do it now, but thanks for the heads up. I'll keep that in mind.
 
I don't like to not use special actions. I'd rather invest the heavy resources than not have Cassandra take her own version.
I see where you're coming from and I'm somewhat hesitant myself but I kinda feel like if we're not putting Cassandra on the action to socialise Raven then there's no real point in doing it. After all the goal is to tie Raven more closely to LexCorp and we can either do that by feeding her propaganda with all the risks that come with that or by having Cassandra befriend her and tie her around her finger to secure a more personal loyalty. While her having other friends within the company wouldn't hurt it's not really worth it if it isn't Cassandra.

Plus it's theoretically possible that a high enough success, which a team of Raven, Cassandra and Starfire is fairly likely to get, could benefit Cassandra as well. Potentially a boost to Diplomacy or a trait related to working with them or something.
Also it feels like Cassandra participating in a Raven Special diplomacy action without Jinx would exasperate there issues or at least fail to fix them.
That's definitely a possibility but I imagine that short of a disastrous roll it's an unlikely from just one action.
Plus, taking them together would provide synergy, so even if one rolled low it might benefit from the other actions high success.
Ehh, KC tends not to do "same turn synergy" on actions we take.
Well we don't have to do it now, but thanks for the heads up. I'll keep that in mind.
No problem, let me know if you decide to go ahead with it.
 
[ ] [Raven] Socialize Raven with peers about her age at LexCorp
DC ??? (Raven and one other hero unit must be assigned to this action for it to be taken) (DC varies depending on hero units assigned) (Diplomacy) Alternatively, you could attempt to exploit Raven's desire to conform and fit in by warping her perception of a "normal teenage girl". By having raven socialize primarily with the LexCorp peers you have chosen her to, you might be able to forcibly forge bonds between Raven and members of Cassandra's generation and tie Raven closer than ever to your company. You might even be able to alter her behavior if you're successful enough.
I see where you're coming from and I'm somewhat hesitant myself but I kinda feel like if we're not putting Cassandra on the action to socialise Raven then there's no real point in doing it. After all the goal is to tie Raven more closely to LexCorp and we can either do that by feeding her propaganda with all the risks that come with that or by having Cassandra befriend her and tie her around her finger to secure a more personal loyalty. While her having other friends within the company wouldn't hurt it's not really worth it if it isn't Cassandra.
Which doesn't make much sense since most of the hero units close to her in age we would tying her too aren't going to be leaving Lexcorp. Neither Jinx or Starfire are going to be leaving Lexcorp the way things stand. Either would do. It distinctly isn't necessary to tie her to Cassandra specifically.

But still, Let's say we do put Cass on this and skip a special action. That still leaves Raven with a terrible Jinx Coop which is completely unsatisfactory. Fixing that coop is the only reason I'm considering this over propaganda. I'd be willing to accept adding Jinx and accepting only two rolls(only one fewer than the max with three heroes anyway and a reroll is guaranteed with the bonus at that point) but otherwise I'll stick with propaganda.
 
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