Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

So uh anyone tempted to use Crown on Lydia's dad now to confirm Ankou-ness and let him know there's a trap set to get his help too?
 
You guys can totally send a text where it makes sense IC, like to Michael, but for Grad for instance it will take a phone-call and a meeting.
Cool.
I wonder if Brother Divishmar would be any help.


VOTE
[X] Get more information from Bob, maybe he knows who Capricorpus is, that's a new name
-[X]Text Michael.Tell him you've handed off tape to Forthill. Add heads up, and ask him to get his stuff while you try getting some extra information from Harry's place.


REASONS

Call/Talk to Bob.
Capriocorpus was one of the Kemmlerites behind the events of Dead Beat last year, but Molly doesnt know that yet IC.
She's a necromancer, and a bodyjumper; one good enough to steal the Warden Captain's body as the Warden Captain was stabbing her to death.

And as far as Bob knows, she is supposed to be dead. Dresden shot her during Dead Beat. So news of her survival? Very bad.

We need a reason to freak out IC and justify callimg everyone out to Michael.
If Molly knows what sort of Kemmlerite the Capriocorpus is, and that it is still alive, she has IC justification to yell at everybody.
Everybody. Gard, her father, the White Council.Even the White Court of vampires dont want Chicago to die while they live in it.

Also, we dont know what a Black Feast is.
Bob should be able to tell us what it is, and tell us how to disrupt it safely without blowing up a couple city blocks, or killing a whole bunch of people.

Remember that the last magic ritual that Dresden disrupted without being sure in Proven Guilty left fetches free to go to the Carpenter house as an unintended consequence.
There are very good reasons to get expert advice.

Also, finding out what a Black Feast and a Capriocorpus is = Secret Knowledge = Essence regen.
 
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Cool.


VOTE
[X] Get more information from Bob, maybe he knows who Capricorpus is, that's a new name
-[X]Text Michael.Tell him you've handed off tape to Forthill. Add heads up, and ask him to get his stuff while you try getting some extra information from Harry's place.


REASONS

Call/Talk to Bob.
Capriocorpus was one of the Kemmlerites behind the events of Dead Beat last year, but Molly doesnt know that yet IC.
She's a necromancer, and a bodyjumper; one good enough to steal the Warden Captain's body.

And as far as Bob knows, she is supposed to be dead. Dresden shot her during Dead Beat. So news of her survival? Very bad.

We need a reason to freak out IC and justify callimg everyone out to Michael.
If Molly knows what sort of Kemmlerite the Capriocorpus is, and that it is still alive, she has IC justification to yell at everybody.
Everybody. Gard, her father, the White Council.Even the White Court of vampires dont want Chicago to die while they live in it.

Also, we dont know what a Black Feast is.
Bob should be able to tell us what it is, and tell us how to disrupt it safely without blowing up a couple city blocks, or killing a whole bunch of people. Also, finding out what it is = Secret Knowledge = Essence regen.
why not mention the child kidnapping?
 
[X] Get more information from Bob, maybe he knows who Capricorpus is, that's a new name
-[X]Text Michael.Tell him you've handed off tape to Forthill. Add heads up, and ask him to get his stuff while you try getting some extra information from Harry's place.

Note I may change votes if something more detailed I like comes up sometimes simple isn't bad though. Do you want to have mouse come with us to this fight?
 
[X] Get more information from Bob, maybe he knows who Capricorpus is, that's a new name
-[X]Text Michael.Tell him you've handed off tape to Forthill. Add heads up, and ask him to get his stuff while you try getting some extra information from Harry's place.

Note I may change votes if something more detailed I like comes up sometimes simple isn't bad though. Do you want to have mouse come with us to this fight?
I dont know.
Not really our place to recruit Dresden's dog, but I'll leave that up to the QM and Mouse to judge.
I'll be happy to have him.

Now whether Brother Divishmar would be helpful is a different question.
We could send him after Cindy when we find her location.
Monk ninja guy could steal the child and bail.
 
Thats like saying Exalted are just mortals if you remove the charms.

The Sword is a BIG deal.
I mean yeah it doesn't exactly give super strength though or super powers though. I'm not dissing our dad he doesn't have superpowers like the monk though even if their limited super powers with occasional consequences.
 
still has supernatural powers just less powerful than say dresden. Hes arguably as capable as our dad who other than the sword and skills isn't all that powerful.
But Michael has the Sword, and he also wears armor to be sure.

From what I've seen from Divsimar and from what he could teach us, I belive his favored oponent would propably be singular or few low-tier supernatural beings.
He doesn't wear armor, he can stun people and block magical attacks and with his body-enhancers he can get a huge dodge-score.
By using supernatural martial arts he can propably beat up a young vampire or two, but when several people with guns shoot at him, he doesn't have a lot of options.
Dodging is limited against multiple opponents.
He can't even soak lethal damage, being human, so raising his Stamina with Qiao doesn't help against that.

His best bet would be stealthy takedowns until he isn't outnumbered anymore and that is a very risky game to play.
 
It still sounds as if she's planning to use Corpsetaker as bait to catch the Elder Ankou, and not just in the past tense sense of that being how she lured him to Chicago. It's just that Corpsetaker may be under the incorrect impression they'll get some of the power as well.

Knowing what a Black Feast is specifically might be helpful, in order to know how best to put a stop to it.
 
You could use him as backup.
Go for the kid.Then use the kid as a focus for Crown of Eyes.
Then hand the kid over to the brother, and go for Mathews/the ritual.
Ah okay, backup for us makes a lot more sense than asking him to get the kid by himself.
Still, Gard is more important to call for me.

We can propably rescue the kid by ourselves if we have to, what matters more is having backup against Katrin.
 
Calling backup assumes we have time, lots of time. We don't know that. There's an unfounded assumption being made that we do, but we've seen before that under the right circumstances mantles can jump to the nearest suitable potential holder of it, and we've no idea what prep work has already been done for this.

If, for example they just need Matthew's to summon Arawn, if they already have a ritual circle set up that could happen very quickly, as in minutes. Look at how quickly Harry could summon the Erlking.

Also, I imagine there's a fair chance they're grabbing/have grabbed Lydia to use Arawn's daughter as a bloodline connection to significantly expedite and ease the process.

I think not using the Crown to investigate her heritage is about to come back and bite us in the ass very, very hard.
 
Calling backup assumes we have time, lots of time. We don't know that. There's an unfounded assumption being made that we do, but we've seen before that under the right circumstances mantles can jump to the nearest suitable potential holder of it, and we've no idea what prep work has already been done for this.

If, for example they just need Matthew's to summon Arawn, if they already have a ritual circle set up that could happen very quickly, as in minutes. Look at how quickly Harry could summon the Erlking.

Also, I imagine there's a fair chance they're grabbing/have grabbed Lydia to use Arawn's daughter as a bloodline connection to significantly expedite and ease the process.

I think not using the Crown to investigate her heritage is about to come back and bite us in the ass very, very hard.
it doesn't really change what we do if shes there we'll assume these things in character and quickly deal with it if we can. Now if shes not there we'd have wasted some essence and we need as much as possible.
 
it doesn't really change what we do if shes there we'll assume these things in character and quickly deal with it if we can. Now if shes not there we'd have wasted some essence and we need as much as possible.

We can't use the Crown on her as we can't see her. What we can do is call Daniel and ask him if he knows where she is, and to try to call her and ask her to go to ground/warn her bodyguards if she's not been hit already.

We can also, if we're being brutal, tell the car to lock the doors and drive into a wall at a hundred plus miles an hour.

Matthews has been a dead man since we let him be taken.
 
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actually we have occult 5 what are some assumptions we can make for whatever ritual their doing dragonparadox? Details on how short notice this can be done, what they need to try and eat the mantle, what we generally think?
 
Calling backup assumes we have time, lots of time. We don't know that. There's an unfounded assumption being made that we do, but we've seen before that under the right circumstances mantles can jump to the nearest suitable potential holder of it, and we've no idea what prep work has already been done for this.

If, for example they just need Matthew's to summon Arawn, if they already have a ritual circle set up that could happen very quickly, as in minutes. Look at how quickly Harry could summon the Erlking.

Also, I imagine there's a fair chance they're grabbing/have grabbed Lydia to use Arawn's daughter as a bloodline connection to significantly expedite and ease the process.

I think not using the Crown to investigate her heritage is about to come back and bite us in the ass very, very hard.
That's part of why I voted to stop Katrin's car and buy us a bit more time.
 
Logically we can send text messages even.
But this is a game, not RL.
That seems... like the kind of thing we would be able to do? DP generally isnt that demanding. Or illogical.

Thats included in the heads up.
If you meant to include it perhaps include it specifically in the vote?

If you don't mention it to DP. It really matters to me for instance.

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How do you feel about cutting the breaks on her car? As a way to waste time if nothing else?
 
We can't use the Crown on her as we can't see her. What we can do is call Daniel and ask him if he knows where she is, and to try to call her and ask her to go to ground/warn her bodyguards if she's not been hit already.

We can also, if we're being brutal, tell the car to lock the doors and drive into a wall at a hundred plus miles an hour.

Matthews has been a dead man since we let him be taken.
you know that can never be justified in character right?
 
I wonder if what he exchanged for his granddaughter's life was his own, and they forced him to agree to use his death 'curse' to summon and bind Arawn in place for them to hit.

actually we have occult 5 what are some assumptions we can make for whatever ritual their doing dragonparadox? Details on how short notice this can be done, what they need to try and eat the mantle, what we generally think?

Our Occult knowledge is to old for the modern set up of Mantles and similar. It's about the deep past, not the modern metaphysics, IIRC.

Things like rituals to summon death gods and eat them are probably secrets beyond regular dots as well.

That's part of why I voted to stop Katrin's car and buy us a bit more time.

I wonder how to do this deniably. Just about anything we so could look like an Entropy curse, and she can just get a taxi right after and then we lose her and surveillance of her.

It's worse than just using it to gather intelligence in my opinion.

you know that can never be justified in character right?

We abandoned Matthews to near certain death already.
 
I wonder if what he exchanged for his granddaughter's life was his own, and they forced him to agree to use his death 'curse' to summon and bind Arawn in place for them to hit.



Our Occult knowledge is to old for the modern set up of Mantles and similar. It's about the deep past, not the modern metaphysics, IIRC.

Things like rituals to summon death gods and eat them are probably secrets beyond regular dots as well.



I wonder how to do this deniably. Just about anything we so could look like an Entropy curse, and she can just get a taxi right after and then we lose her and surveillance of her.

It's worse than just using it to gather intelligence in my opinion.



We abandoned Matthews to near certain death already.
This justification is kind of stupid molly will not kill this man period. Also the occult thing I'm unsure this valkyrie can even go beyond 5 dots.
 
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