Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

Doesn't hurt to post it. Still, what did you think of the site that I linked in post 2172? That is a true gem of a site!
Most of us are aware of that site as well. We aren't new to the fandom, nor are we new to the research that goes into making these OCs (and helps us further understand the canon girls).
 
I have done a hilarious amount of research on everything. Suffice to say, I know what I'm doing with things. Including the politics.

Now, managing to write King as an asshole without bashing the man is the trick.
 
I have done a hilarious amount of research on everything. Suffice to say, I know what I'm doing with things. Including the politics.

Now, managing to write King as an asshole without bashing the man is the trick.
The man is a vindictive Ass who out of spite to get back at the man who punished him as a midshipman for fucking up.
Had the son of the man who did it Court-martialed for his ship Indianapolis getting sunk by a Japanese sub.
 
I am aware, yes.

I am also writing alternate history. Letting personal bias get involved is a recipe for disaster. I hate 'Bomber' Harris, does that mean I should go out of my way to bash the hell out of him?
 
I am aware, yes.

I am also writing alternate history. Letting personal bias get involved is a recipe for disaster. I hate 'Bomber' Harris, does that mean I should go out of my way to bash the hell out of him?
i say bash your target with a large Tuna.... :p

4 D LULZ!!!!
 
I am aware, yes.

I am also writing alternate history. Letting personal bias get involved is a recipe for disaster. I hate 'Bomber' Harris, does that mean I should go out of my way to bash the hell out of him?
There's a difference between 'bashing' and 'showing the consequences of his action'. You wouldn't be implying that he never did anything right or that he was deliberatly fowling things up just to be a dick.
 
There's a difference between 'bashing' and 'showing the consequences of his action'. You wouldn't be implying that he never did anything right or that he was deliberatly fowling things up just to be a dick.

Agreed, god, had the Indianaoplis had even a Destroyer Escort covering her, even if the Indy had been sunk, we still wouldn't have lost so many men.
 
Agreed, god, had the Indianaoplis had even a Destroyer Escort covering her, even if the Indy had been sunk, we still wouldn't have lost so many men.
In fairness: A DE would have severely slowed Indy down; their top speed was about 24 knots with a designed cruising speed around 17 knots, while cruisers had a top speed of 33-ish knots, with a designed cruising speed around 24 knots. The only way a DE could have kept up with Indy is if she only had to do so in a short sprint (and Indy stayed at cruising speed). A full destroyer would have been more suitable as an escort, BUT...

Part of the point of the cruiser, the big reason that they existed after the battleship became preeminent in surface warfare, was that a cruiser was big enough, powerful enough, and capable enough to look after itself, but also expendable enough that it could be risked by detaching it on single-ship operations. A battleship could, obviously, look after itself and go pretty much anywhere it wanted without refueling, but it was too valuable an asset to risk sending out unescorted (hence the term "capital ship"--it was originally an accounting term referencing how battleships were considered "capital assets" that had to be protected for the long term, as opposed to the "expendable assets" that were lesser craft which, if lost, you can always replace). A destroyer might be able to defend itself against a weak attack, but required backup in anything more than a minor skirmish, and it had very short legs. A cruiser, on the other hand, could outrun anything it couldn't outfight, was durable enough to be able to take some punishment in doing so, and had the range to go pretty much anywhere it was needed (though it might need to top off when it got there).

Indeed, under US doctrine, heavy cruisers (CA, eight-inch main battery, like Indy) were generally to be used for detached assignments--scouting, trade interdiction, and other such jobs that had them working alone--while the light cruisers (CL, six-inch battery, like Cleveland) were to be kept tied to the fleet as part of the escort screen. So, going by doctrine of the time, it wasn't at all out of the ordinary for Indy to be operating unescorted; indeed, it was what she was designed to do. The big problem was not sending out search planes to find her when she was overdue...
 
Agreed, god, had the Indianaoplis had even a Destroyer Escort covering her, even if the Indy had been sunk, we still wouldn't have lost so many men.
, . The big problem was not sending out search planes to find her when she was overdue...

That was actually cause by some other admiral screw up plus how the navy move and tracked ships around at the time.

From how I understand it the navy basically had the ship radio up to the guy in charge of the area they are in. Who then puts It's name on a board, while also radioing to the ship last area saying that they had them basically, who then takes it off of their board. From there all the area commanders will every so often radio up to HQ saying who they got.

The Area Commanders were also suppose to to be told who to expect and when so they can take the need actions if something goes South.

That didn't happen with Indianapolis for a reason I forgot, think it had to do with her mission. And basically ended up thinking that the other guy had it slash not even tracking that she was suppose to even be with them.

So for four days the Navy had no idea that they were missing a heavy cruiser until that PBY found the survivors because a couple admirals screwed up. King actually had nothing to do with that snafu until the railroad court happened. Actually think he was still off wringing BuOrds neck at the time...
 
That was actually cause by some other admiral screw up plus how the navy move and tracked ships around at the time.

From how I understand it the navy basically had the ship radio up to the guy in charge of the area they are in. Who then puts It's name on a board, while also radioing to the ship last area saying that they had them basically, who then takes it off of their board. From there all the area commanders will every so often radio up to HQ saying who they got.

The Area Commanders were also suppose to to be told who to expect and when so they can take the need actions if something goes South.

That didn't happen with Indianapolis for a reason I forgot, think it had to do with her mission. And basically ended up thinking that the other guy had it slash not even tracking that she was suppose to even be with them.

So for four days the Navy had no idea that they were missing a heavy cruiser until that PBY found the survivors because a couple admirals screwed up. King actually had nothing to do with that snafu until the railroad court happened. Actually think he was still off wringing BuOrds neck at the time...

However the Captain of the Indianapolis actually asked for a Destroyer Escort to accompany the Heavy Cruiser. However this request was denied because a Destroyer Escort was recently sunk along the path that the Indianapolis was due to take by a Japanese Heavy Cruiser.
 
However the Captain of the Indianapolis actually asked for a Destroyer Escort to accompany the Heavy Cruiser. However this request was denied because a Destroyer Escort was recently sunk along the path that the Indianapolis was due to take by a Japanese Heavy Cruiser.
I was talking about the reason why the Navy didn't know that she sunk for four days before a PBY saw the oil slick and life rafts.
 
Why are we even talking about the fate of the USS Indianapolis again? That's a looong ways off in the timeline, and is likely to not occur the same way if it even happens at all.
 
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