Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

*quietly munching on my self-made cookies as i watch the shenanigans in the thread.*
*noticed someone is looking at me.*
me: Huh? dont mind me. i'm just watching them go nuts over speculation way ahead of the current timeline.....
 
*quietly munching on my self-made cookies as i watch the shenanigans in the thread.*
*noticed someone is looking at me.*
me: Huh? dont mind me. i'm just watching them go nuts over speculation way ahead of the current timeline.....

What, I can't help it! I love speculation, particularly with this story! What if the Hiryu survived the Battle of Midway? What if the ABDA Float won the 1st Battle of Java Sea? What if Force Z wasn't destroyed by Japanese Aircraft? So many possibilities!
 
At any rate, I'll note when I say 'bashing' I mean letting personal and/or historical biases influence the writing. I am trying very hard to write people accurately. That goes both ways, in this regard. I won't make someone act more of an ass than they historically are, but I also won't ignore flaws in characters.

I try, at the least, to keep everyone as accurate as I possibly can. This is why I create OCs when I don't have enough verified information to work with. Because I want to do historical figures justice, and all that stuff.
 
At any rate, I'll note when I say 'bashing' I mean letting personal and/or historical biases influence the writing. I am trying very hard to write people accurately. That goes both ways, in this regard. I won't make someone act more of an ass than they historically are, but I also won't ignore flaws in characters.

I try, at the least, to keep everyone as accurate as I possibly can. This is why I create OCs when I don't have enough verified information to work with. Because I want to do historical figures justice, and all that stuff.
And we love your writing for that fact.
 
At any rate, I'll note when I say 'bashing' I mean letting personal and/or historical biases influence the writing. I am trying very hard to write people accurately. That goes both ways, in this regard. I won't make someone act more of an ass than they historically are, but I also won't ignore flaws in characters.

I try, at the least, to keep everyone as accurate as I possibly can. This is why I create OCs when I don't have enough verified information to work with. Because I want to do historical figures justice, and all that stuff.

Okay, makes sense with me!
 
Oh look, another Sky fic I'm going to be obsessively checking up on every day to see if a new chapter is up. I'm going to start missing classes at this rate.
 
*Steals some cookies...*
*cast Flare at that cookie stealing child.*
*Deus go boom due to the Flare's effect*

bake you own cookies, you thief.

*drags Deus' scorched body to the nearest body of water before dumping his loathsome body into it.*

anyways.... with THAT out of the way...

now i wonder how things will thru.....

we shall await your update, Master Skywalker
be the force be with you.

:p
 
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*cast Flare at that cookie stealing child.*
*Deus go boom due to the Flare's effect*

bake you own cookies, you thief.

*drags Deus' scorched body to the nearest body of water before dumping his loathsome body into it.*

anyways.... with THAT out of the way...

now i wonder how things will thru.....

we shall await your update, Master Skywalker
be the force be with you.

:p
*Steals some more...*
 
One of the many unwritten rules of the internet. There's a thread for that.
 
Just a quick note to people. The butterfly effect does account for many things, such as Hitler randomly breaking into tap-dance. However, some things have to happen a certain way due to physical constraints.

For example:

The Nazi economy was basically based on the old Roman Empire's method of constantly finding new people to conquer and exploit. Without a new source of victims, the Third Reich will suffer internal economic collapse or wrenching change. Given Hitler's ideology, this basically makes a war with Stalin an inevitability.

Junyo and Hiyo had poor machinery. This means that they can't keep up with the main fleet in battle. They are too slow and unreliable. With this in mind, their appearance at Midway is less than likely.

As I noted earlier in the thread, it has been argued that the IJN was unable to send all of its battleships down to Guadalcanal to make a truly decisive blow because it simply didn't have enough fuel.

The infamous Operation Sealion would not work unless the Nazis miraculously started using actual oceanic landing craft rather than river barges.
 
Just a quick note to people. The butterfly effect does account for many things, such as Hitler randomly breaking into tap-dance. However, some things have to happen a certain way due to physical constraints.

For example:

The Nazi economy was basically based on the old Roman Empire's method of constantly finding new people to conquer and exploit. Without a new source of victims, the Third Reich will suffer internal economic collapse or wrenching change. Given Hitler's ideology, this basically makes a war with Stalin an inevitability.

Junyo and Hiyo had poor machinery. This means that they can't keep up with the main fleet in battle. They are too slow and unreliable. With this in mind, their appearance at Midway is less than likely.

As I noted earlier in the thread, it has been argued that the IJN was unable to send all of its battleships down to Guadalcanal to make a truly decisive blow because it simply didn't have enough fuel.

The infamous Operation Sealion would not work unless the Nazis miraculously started using actual oceanic landing craft rather than river barges.

Who knows how the Butterfly Effect will change stuff.
 
Who knows how the Butterfly Effect will change stuff.

The Butterfly Effect can't change physical things or magically create more resources. That's all I'm trying to say. Physical constraints mean that some things are not possible or that other things will happen in a certain way regardless of how other events change.

Also, the optimist in me going through a tough time in life really hopes that there is as happy a story as possible, and that ships that "go Abyssal" are able to be healed and brought back. I really don't like seeing people die.
 
Who knows how the Butterfly Effect will change stuff.
We also know that Schreiber and Thompson has been messing around in the 1940's for a good amount of time, and somehow they don't appear to be seen as "why did you suddenly appear" and more like "how can you see shipgirls and why do you seem so advanced for your time" type of behind the scenes conversations. Do they have some counterpart back in the 1940's that they do not know about? How can they explain that they fit into their respective navies and say that they have been Rear Admiral for years without the others realising that they are from the future? We don't know.

Also, the combination of faster integration of Aircraft Carriers & improvement of aircraft tactics by Thompson will probably change the war in itself, and also recognising that Pearl Harbor will happen no matter if Yamato suffers from a bout of surgery via boiler replacement or a Zero crashes in the middle of the Pacific, it will happen.
 
The Butterfly Effect can't change physical things or magically create more resources. That's all I'm trying to say. Physical constraints mean that some things are not possible or that other things will happen in a certain way regardless of how other events change.

Also, the optimist in me going through a tough time in life really hopes that there is as happy a story as possible, and that ships that "go Abyssal" are able to be healed and brought back. I really don't like seeing people die.

Same here. I mean, watching videos, particularly ones on VT-8 Torpedo Attack against the Japanese Fleet at Midway, brings me to tears and I guess that brought Hornet herself to tears.
 
Same here. I mean, watching videos, particularly ones on VT-8 Torpedo Attack against the Japanese Fleet at Midway, brings me to tears and I guess that brought Hornet herself to tears.
VT-8's demise is largely attributed to the damn defects in the Mark 13 Torpedo, courtesy of Naval Torpedo Station Rhode Island and Admiral Christie, and the fact that a 1937 Torpedo Plane was fighting against the 1942 IJN.

Thompson is trying to prevent that by showing the Mark 13 had very significant problems via a test run on Yorktown, but he definitely needs Admiral Lockwood on his side in order to fight Christie.
 
Has anyone ever checked the financial records of BuOrd back then, because I swear that there cannot be that many fogeys who would rather die than, god forbid, test torpedoes. They had to be working for Germany, or Japan. Hell, maybe even Italy.
 
Has anyone ever checked the financial records of BuOrd back then, because I swear that there cannot be that many fogeys who would rather die than, god forbid, test torpedoes. They had to be working for Germany, or Japan. Hell, maybe even Italy.
Probably echo chamber style stupidity. Christie believed in the Mark 6 detonator so damn much he refused to listen to the submarine crews, the torpedo plane pilots or Admiral Lockwood himself that said that the torpedo was bloody bollocks and blamed everyone instead of NTS Rhode Island and himself.
 
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