Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

I want to see Thompson go aboard the Constitution. Because there's something truly epic about being able to see the grandmother of the entire US Navy - only that she looks like a very well preserved *snerk* 40-something, with curves that simply refuse to bow with age, who take shit from nobody as it just slides/bounces off her, but is about the gentlest person possible when it comes to kids with all the patience of a beloved schoolteacher - and being the first person alive to actually see her. Or at least, the first person to admit to seeing her.

Although that might led into a possible omake/side-story of where an officer that's stationed onboard the Constitution, who upon realizing the Admiral can actually see her, quietly calls Thompson off to the side, and hands him a tattered/dog-eared logbook that has the first entry dated in 1798, with continuous entries spanning over 150 years. Records of all the different assigned officers/enlisted who have seen Connie over the years, and kept it secret, to avoid any witchcraft trials/to be drummed out as insane/or to see her burned as possibly being possessed. And all their quietly attempted methods, spanning over a century of trial and error, to get new crewmembers to see her - something that is practically priceless for Thompson and/or the Navy in general, in ways to allow sailors to see their Shipgirls.

Navy Dedication. Fuck yeah.
 
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IJN could work it, there are examples of women warrior in Japanese history

I suspect the existence of shipgirls will also have a degree of cultural and religious resonance in Japan that it might not elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of Japanese sailors see the shipgirls as more "divine" than "supernatural".

Well, Bismarck would have a hard time just convincing her Captain she's actually a woman. :V

Eh, I dunno. With the outfit Bismarck wears, a stiff ocean breeze would be enough to provide persuasive evidence. :V
 
I have a feeling, once the existence of Ship Girls become more well known among the higher echelons and the questions of what rights they have come up (in the sense of they're military equipment but they also appear to be people but who are also GIRLS (omg) who aren't considered active frontline combatants in the 1940's), that Thompson or Richardson may suggest issuing the Oaths of Enlistment and Office to them to settle the issue, possibly even at a ship's commissioning for any coming down the line. Just to placate the naysayers who are having more trouble than usual wrapping their head around it.

I don't think women were even considered reserve combat/support troops at that point of time. The move to frontline combat/reserve positions in the Army and Navy was the late 1980's, and even today the US military is reluctant to move women into full on combat positions due to ethical issues.

Imagine the reaction of the US Congress to the existence of girl shipspirits in the 1940's. It will not be pretty, due to all of the sexism at the time.

I posted a little bit about this before:
During World War Two the War Department actually did use women in a variety of roles: nurses, pilots, and so on. Marshall commissioned a study that found women actually performed better than men at tasks requiring precise though repetitive motions (the study in question evaluated manning an anti-aircraft position), but Marshall knew the public would never stand sending women into combat.

Yeah, gonna be a long road for the US Navy to get anything done on that front. I assume the Soviet Navy will have an easier time with accepting them once Barbarossa gets into full swing and women are fighting in the army as well. IJN could work it, there are examples of women warrior in Japanese history but well, 40's were sexist as fuck everywhere so dunno if it'll help at all. Don't have a clue on how things'll go for the Commonwealth or the Germans.


Though true and though propaganda from both East and West talked of the USSR's fighting women, most believed it was more due to desperation than gender equality.

Japan I could never see reacting well. In the 1940s the Japanese position on women was literally that their only duty was to produce sons. It took until 1943 for Japan to mobilize women into the workforce, compared to 1940 for Britain, 41 for the USSR, and 42 for the USA. The only possibility for Japan's reaction I can see is that of Maloney from Strike Witches: "Get back in the kitchen you servile wench."
 
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I don't think women were even considered reserve combat/support troops at that point of time. The move to frontline combat/reserve positions in the Army and Navy was the late 1980's, and even today the US military is reluctant to move women into full on combat positions due to ethical issues.

Imagine the reaction of the US Congress to the existence of girl shipspirits in the 1940's. It will not be pretty, due to all of the sexism at the time.

Well, I'll throw my two cents in on what the appearance of shipgirls will have on the Navy and American culture.

Sexism? How about racism if a shipgirl is African-American, Native American, or any other minority in appearance? You know full well there will be people who would not want to work on a ship simply because they are discriminatory simply on appearance.

That would force the Navy to take hard look at itself. Segregate crews so a ship with a African-American looking girl only has an African-American crew? Problem, if I remember right, African-Americans were restricted from important command and operation positions. They could be cook, clerks, AA gunners, but not much else.

Or does the Navy become the first service to totally integrate the minorities? The Tuskegee experiment showed the Air Force it was not economic to basically run two Air Forces based on race.

So, could we get a Civil Rights movement two decades early?
 
Well, I've said before that some girls will be minorities. Oklahoma is Native American. Mississippi is African-American.
 
I suspect the existence of shipgirls will also have a degree of cultural and religious resonance in Japan that it might not elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of Japanese sailors see the shipgirls as more "divine" than "supernatural".
Especially since Yamato is sometimes considered to be a Yamato Nadeshiko and the personification of Japan herself. It also ties in with Japanese mysticism and spirit power.

Well, I've said before that some girls will be minorities. Oklahoma is Native American. Mississippi is African-American.
Is Okie's Changing Destiny design taken from Pacific? Because her design in Pacific is Native American in nature.

I also wonder if sisters would be dressed the same, like the Northamptons, Colorados and the Carriers.
 
Well, Bismarck would have a hard time just convincing her Captain she's actually a woman. :V


"P-p-please take my face off your br- ballast tanks, Herr Bismarck."

"Not until you admit these are tits, not tanks, and that I'm a Fraulein, not a Herr!"

"Gah... Admiral Schreiber! Help!"

"You're on your own, son," Schreiber averred while stroking the fuzzy head of a black ship's cat. "And hello to you, too, Oskar."

"Miau," mews the cat.

"Nooo..."

So fell Captain Lindemann into the depths of the marshmallow hell of the Iron Chancellor of the Kriegsmarine... Lucky bastard...

Eh, I dunno. With the outfit Bismarck wears, a stiff ocean breeze would be enough to provide persuasive evidence. :V

She could always take a page from the book of the ultra-dreadnought Bismarck in The Tillmanverse, and be a member of the Freikörperkultur. Wouldn't that be a shock?

x-x-x​

It takes all of Lindemann's strength to restrain himself from clawing out his eyes.

"Why are you naked? Where are your clothes?"

"It's nude, not naked. There's a difference."

Bismarck is not the least bit embarrassed by the bareness of her body. In fact she is proud of her firm figure, the product of German engineering (which is the best in the world, of course!)

So the nudist battleship proceeds to provide her new captain with the best view of her jutting battery of 15 inch main guns, the Krupp steel that comprises her banded armor scheme, and her tireless propeller shafts.

"Put some clothes on!" Lindemann begs. "For the love of the Fuhrer!"

"...No," refuses the piqued Bismarck, who grabs her captain in a bear hug to punish him for mentioning the frustrated Austrian painter.

"Aaaahhh!"

"I very nearly had a heart attack myself," Schreiber is telling Oskar.

"Miau..."
 
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Though true and though propaganda from both East and West talked of the USSR's fighting women, most believed it was more due to desperation than gender equality.
True, but the point still has a bit of relevance. I imagine Soviet command thinking along the lines of "Is it making things worse? No? Okay, now let me deal with an actual fucking problem, like these damn fascist surrounding the city."
 
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Fubuki best imouto after DesDiv 6, will fight Nagato and Tenryuu for them.

(And lose ridiculously fast. :V)
 
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Omake: Friscotime II
Friscotime
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Heavy Cruiser San Fransisco —'Frisco' to her friends. If… she had any—braced her feet on the cold steel of her own bridge. Her fine Japanese features hovered a few inches from her Captain's all-American jawline. Her almond eyes narrowed to tightly focused slits, and her ratty, tangled black hair seemed to quiver with nervous energy.

The heavy cruiser puffed out her cheeks, with a mischievous grin. She'd tried every trick in the book to break though to her crew. Which wasn't much, really. At this point, "The Book" was really more of a pamphlet. Or… like a business card. All The Book really said was "do stuff until other stuff happens."

Frisco was sailing uncharted waters, pushing back the gloomy veil of ignorance with each step. Another ship might be a little worried, but not Frisco. She was a cruiser. If battleships were the fleet's fist, cruisers were its eyes. Searching out the unknown and making it… un-unknown was her very reason to exist.

And she had a trick up her sleeve.

Frisco's small, fully treaty-compliant bosom swelled as she sucked in a huge lungful of air. She rose on her tip-toes until she was staring her Captain square in the eyes. And then she spoke.

"NOTICE MEEEEEEEEE!" Frisco bellowed with all the thundering volume her surprisingly capacious lungs could produce. A few drops of spit flew though the air at the power of her voice, and she heard—almost felt her voice echo back to her against her own hull.

Her Captain blinked.

Frisco panted, her arms furiously waving as she signaled out "N-O-T-I-C-E-M-E" in semaphore while she gathered her strength for another scream. She was close, she could feel it in her… bones? bulkheads? Something like that.

"Notice me!" chanted Frisco, "Notice me! Notice me! Notice me! NOTICE MEEEEEEEEEE!" Her lungs utterly empty, the cruiser slumped against her captain. She closed her eyes, a smile crossing her face at the warm embrace of his uniform caressing her grimy skin.

Only the caress never came. Instead, the cruiser tensed like someone had just poured ice water over her grave. She opened her eyes just in time to see her own deck come rushing up to meet her.

"Ow!" Frisco bounced off her deck in an undignified pile of sinew, legs, and ratty hair. If she'd taken any serious damage—besides the massive hit to her pride—she couldn't tell right off the bat. She was still so grungy—she'd came to Pearl in the first place for a good through scrubbing—that she couldn't make heads or tails of what was actually busted.

Oh well… if embarrassing herself in front of her Captain was enough to break though, she'd swallow her pride with joy.

"Ta-dah!" Frisco put on her best Hollywoodland smile and rolled onto her back. If she was going to make a fool out of herself, she was going to make a fool out of herself in style. "I'm here everyone!"

Not a man on the bridge reacted. A rating jogged over to the Captain with clipboard in hand, his leg passing right though Frisco's sinewy belly like it wasn't anything more than smoke.

"Damnit." Frisco cursed to herself and sheepishly stood up. She tried to smooth out the rumples on her long-since sweat-stained uniform, but there's only so much one tired shipgirl could do. She really needed that defouling. She could feel the crud building up on her skin, slowing even her thinking to a sluggish crawl.

She narrowed her eyes at her captain, one finger thrust out at his face as a stern look crossed her own. "I'm not done with you yet!"

Her captain, predictably, didn't offer her the slightest reaction.

Frisco huffed, her arms crossing her chest as her cheeks puffed out in a pout. She was a cruiser. The eyes of the fleet, she was supposed to sneak around and turn a few random sightings into information her Admiral could use to plan an attack. That meant she should be able to think on her feet—or keel… screws… whatever. Metaphors are hard.

Well, if there was one thing she knew, it was that sitting around pouting wasn't going to get her anywhere. Frisco glanced at her watch. Not to check the time—the fouling was so dense over the glass she could barely even see the hands, let alone the hour markings—but to give her hands something to do while she thought.

Hmm… still nothing.

Frisco shoved her hands into her pockets and ducked though the bridge door. (Literally. She couldn't open it if she tried, and she had tried.) Maybe a quick walk would help clear her mind. Lord knows she could use the exercise if she wanted to keep her weight under the ever-looming treaty limit.

So Frisco walked down her hull. She walked, and there may have been some skipping to, but only because she knew nobody could see her. Skipping just wasn't appropriate for a United States Navy warship. Even if if was fun.

Then, as she skipped down her cramped passageways, Frisco had a thought. Maybe she'd been looking in the wrong place this whole time. Her captain was… her Captain, yes. He commanded her and led her into battle, but he had a hundred other things to worry over. Nine hundred and four things, if her last crew count was accurate. She could hardly blame him for not worrying over his ship when he had actual, living, breathing sailors to worry about.

But her Engineer, he looked after her, and her alone. Her captain might have led her into battle, but her Engineer patched her up, tucked her in, and read her a bedtime story. There wasn't anyone on… her… that she loved quite as much as her Engineer. And she knew just the way to her machinery spaces.

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Frisco found her Engineer right where she expected. Half-buried in her machinery and screaming expletives while banging about with a comically large wrench. The cruiser couldn't help but smile, she always felt so tingly and loved whenever he worked on her.

"Hey, Commander?" Frisco bit her lip and shyly toyed with the ragged end of her matted hair.

"Socket wrench!" barked the half-hidden form of her Engineer. He had a name of course, Commander Mike Burrows. But to Frisco, the man would always be her beloved Engineer.

A ragged-looking rating bolted over to a tool box and plucked a tool with shaking fingers. "Right here, sir!"

Burrows didn't even look at the tool. The instant it settled into his hand, some Engineering sixth sense went off and he all but hurled the tool at the hapless rating's head. "That's a Monkey Wrench, nugget!"

"S-sorry, sir!" The rating scrambled over to grab the correct tool

"How the hell am I supposed to get this lazy-ass bitch in the fight," thundered Burrows from underneath Frisco's turbine. The cruiser tried and failed to bottle up a sigh of contentment at his loving concern. "Without socket wenches?"

"C-coming right up sir," the Rating fished a ratcheting driver out of the toolbox and slapped it into Burrows' waiting hand.

"First the Naht-sees-" Frisco always liked the way her Engineer pronounced that word. It just felt… right. "-now the nips, and I'm stuck on a boat with a fouled bottom and-" he stopped. "Gimme a half-inch socket."

The rating's hand had barely closed around a socket when the Engineer's voice thundered up again. "I said half-inch goddammit!"

The rating couldn't let go of the socket fast enough, the little bit of polished steel smacking in to the stamped metal tool box with a loud metallic ping!

"Uh, this one right here." Frisco happily plucked the right-sized socket from its secluded corner and handed it to the rating.

"Thanks ma'am," the scruffy-haired young sailor offered her a toothy grin of thanks.

And then both of them froze. Frisco blinked, while the poor rating just fainted away in a pile of limbs and dungarees.

"Where is my damn socket!" Burrows' noticeably empty hand flexed in the air, impatiently expecting the ordered tool.

"Coming up, sir!" Frisco leaped over the rating's body and slapped the properly-sized socket into her Engineer's impatient paw.

He grunted a note that might have been either thanks or indigestion, then slid himself deeper into her machinery.

Wait.

Frisco blinked. She'd just… just spoken to two of her crew. Interacted with them. Handed them tools. She DID IT! She'd BROKEN THROUGH!

"WOOO-OW!" Frisco jumped for joy. And suddenly realized just how little headroom there was in her machinery spaces as her head smashed into a structural beam. "Owowowowowowow," Frisco clutched at her head as she collapsed into a puddle of disheveled heavy cruiser.

The next thing she knew, a heavy, grease-covered hand was gently patting her shoulder. "You okay, miss?"

Frisco nodded, and sheepishly glanced up at her Engineer. "I think so."

Burrows blinked, the muscles in his almost non-existent neck tensing like steel anchor chains. "You're a-"

"Girl?"

"I was gonna say nip."

"No!" Frisco's mood instantly shifted from unrestrained joy at finally being noticed to disappointed rage. "No! I'm… I'm Nisei! I'm-" She cursed herself for trying to explain her situation with a Japanese word. "I'm American. I was born down at Mare Island! In California!"

Burrows folded his arms and glared at her.

"Look, I'll prove it!" said Frisco. The cruiser puffed out her chest and folded her arms with a smirk of fierce determination.

"I'm waiting," Burrows tapped his fingers against his bicep.

"Oh, uh…" Frisco's bluster faded and she scuffed her toe against her own decking. "That was it."

Burrows just arched an eyebrow.

"I said 'look'," explained Frisco. "Not," the cruiser squinted her already narrow eyes until they were nothing more than slits. Her neck craned forwards and she peeled her lips back to bare her teeth, "Rook! Is verrry HONORUBU!!"

"Oh lord in heaven," Burrows' face sagged to his chest.

"SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!" snapped Frisco. She wasn't sure if this was helping, but she would put her full effort into it regardless.

"Alright, stop." Burrows slapped one giant grease-covered mitt on the cruiser's narrow shoulder. "Your accent is terrible."

"Yeah, I know." Frisco glanced at her toes, her voice slipping back to her natural Cali accent. "You believe me, though?"

"Frisco," Burrows smiled and tousled the cruiser's hair. Or at least tried to, it was so full of knots and salt-stained split-ends he had to fight just to get his hand back.

"I really need defouling," said Frisco.

"That you do," said Burrows.

"Um," Frisco clasped her hands behind her back, her torso slowly yawing from side to side as she pursed her lips nervously, "What were you going to say?"

"That I always knew you were a girl," said Burrows.

"You did?"

Burrows nodded. "You're a cranky bitch who begs for attention whenever I spend five minutes anywhere other than waist-deep in your machinery."

Frisco nodded in agreement.

"But so far," Burrows shrugged, "You've never let me down when it really mattered."

Frisco smiled from ear to ear and hurled herself at her Engineer's chest. Her sinewy arms wrapped around his barrel-chested body, her face burying itself in his thick neck. "You know just how to talk to a girl, you know that?"

"Ah! Frisco," Burrows gagged.

"Huh?"

"When was the last time you took a shower?"

"Um... why?" Frisco offered up her most innocent smile.

"You reek."

Frisco huffed. Dangit!
 
But her Engineer, he looked after her, and her alone. Her captain might have led her into battle, but her Engineer patched her up, tucked her in, and read her a bedtime story. There wasn't anyone on… her… that she loved quite as much as her Engineer. And she knew just the way to her machinery spaces.
Frisco remains sharp as a tack.

Burrows didn't even look at the tool. The instant it settled into his hand, some Engineering sixth sense went off and he all but hurled the tool at the hapless rating's head. "That's a Monkey Wrench, nugget!"

"S-sorry, sir!" The rating scrambled over to grab the correct tool
Ah, that poor sailor. He's relatively fresh out of training isn't he?

"I said 'look'," explained Frisco. "Not," the cruiser squinted her already narrow eyes until they were nothing more than slits. Her neck craned forwards and she peeled her lips back to bare her teeth, "Rook! Is verrry HONORUBU!!"

"Oh lord in heaven," Burrows' face sagged to his chest.

"SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!" snapped Frisco. She wasn't sure if this was helping, but she would put her full effort into it regardless.
Well, the usage of Engrish was effective at the very least.

"Um... why?" Frisco offered up her most innocent smile.

"You reek."

Frisco huffed. Dangit!
Eh, I wouldn't be too offended Frisco. After a defouling session and some refit/maintenance, you'll shine just like a freshly struck penny.
 
When I read the 'she's Japanese looking' bit, my expectations nose dived. But wow, what a comeback, 4 stars! The rating got a name?

Hmm... This is making me wanna try my hand at old swayback.
 
Why thank you! This isn't the first time I've written her. There's another Omake with here in here somewhere, and you can read about a much more war-torn version of Frisco in Belated Battleships.
 
"There are no such things as spirits, Comrade Captain. Spirits are a construct of religion, the opiate of the oppressed people that Comrade Marx spoke up about. I, on the other hand, am a psychokinetic sapient entity formed by the coalescence of the collected egos and experiences of my many crews and, most importantly, a true Communist."

That is likely precisely the kind of explanation the Soviet Party would come up with. Of course, this being the USSR under Stalin, just because she's a communist does not make her above suspicion. How can the Party know that no shipgirl is part of the giant Fascist-Imperialist-Trotskyist conspiracy to destroy the Soviet state? Traitors were even found among the NKVD and Comrade Stalin's inner circle after all! :V

]Japan I could never see reacting well. In the 1940s the Japanese position on women was literally that their only duty was to produce sons. It took until 1943 for Japan to mobilize women into the workforce, compared to 1940 for Britain, 41 for the USSR, and 42 for the USA.

As Echo noted, the Japanese are liable to sidestep this issue by viewing the shipgirls as kami, which are not necessarily people per-say but are nonetheless something to be respected. The fact that shipgirls do have superhuman capabilities will help on this issue (I dare you to call the woman who could turn your head into a fine red mist with her pinky finger a "servile wrench"). Didn't IJN vessels also have small shrines on them? I could see those basically becoming the de-facto "shipgirl room".

I also imagine the carrier crews of the Kido Butai would appreciate the archer motif their shipgirls would have going.
 
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