Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

Citation, please? I want to be certain you are not recalling another fic by accident.
He's right in the two hull-free German shipgirls. I forgot about one. But nowhere in the story there is a claim about them being self-summoned. We don't know their stories and how they came to be shipgirls without hulls.

So, citation on them specifically being self-summoned? :Citation Needed:
 
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Let's be honest. Kaga is not going to be captured in any way. But, I do wonder if some higher ups in the US navy will start to wonder about the existence of shipgirls in the IJN.
If so I don't think it is too far of to imagine some order might be given to try and capture some ship if it ever was feasible, just to see if they can gather any intel at all about potential Japanese shipgirls. Probably will never be a carrier, as they are likely to be destroyed in battle or scuttled if it to prevent their capture. But maybe some smaller boat abandoned in a part or anchorage when the US start capturing territory.

Regardless, it will be interesting how the US navy starts planning for the Japanese shipgirls. I doubt they are just going to ignore the possibility.


Not going to happen. Even if the Americans capture an intact hull, there's no guarantee the ship girl will appear to anyone. Even if she does appear, she sure isn't going to be cooperating with the Americans, once she realizes she's essentially a prisoner of war. She either just sits there on her hull silently, or if she manages to free herself from her hull, stages a jail break. And once she breaks away, who's going to stop her? Is the USN going to sortie ships and planes to do so? Serioiusly doubt it. It could devolve into an ugly mess, with the end result being the ship girl gets away and makes it to a safe IJN facility.
 
Not going to happen.
Props for the McLane scenario.

But at this point we have repeated several times that Kaga is going to be scuttled by the IJN, or searched and scuttled by the USN.

Your scenario is interesting, omake material part of the "Kaga the stoic PoW" series, but not going to happen n the story. Particularly because if Kaga doesn't sink, she won't even have the option of self-summoning, which makes her tied to her hull, which is in need of repairs, and in need of a crew to man her stations. So, not happening.
 
Props for the McLane scenario.

But at this point we have repeated several times that Kaga is going to be scuttled by the IJN, or searched and scuttled by the USN.

Your scenario is interesting, omake material part of the "Kaga the stoic PoW" series, but not going to happen n the story. Particularly because if Kaga doesn't sink, she won't even have the option of self-summoning, which makes her tied to her hull, which is in need of repairs, and in need of a crew to man her stations. So, not happening.


I know Kaga's fate is probably sealed. I was responding to the post about the USN capturing other intact smaller warships and the feaibility of gathering intelligence from their shipgirls. As I said, it ain't gonna happen.
 
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I imagine that the Asiatic fleet, reinforced by Force Z and the Royal Navy contingent from the Indian Ocean is going to make this a more equal fight against the IJN. Competent leadership on the ground is also going to pay dividends as well. Singapore and Malaysia may be able to hold out for longer than IOTL, and throw a serious wrench in the timing of everything, along with Corregidor and Ft Drum being a thorn in the Japanese side as they attempt to subdue the Philippines.
Hornet and Yorktown joining Lexington and Enterprise is a big deal, especially now that the USN aviators know they can fight and win against the best of the IJN.

Personally, I think this all advances the Allies' timeline to April or May to regain the initiative against the Japanese.

I'd like to know where you're getting that Force Z and the Royal Navy are going to reinforce the Asiatic Fleet, or that they'd at all contribute anything even if they did. Force Z is still a political setpiece waiting to get torn apart by Japanese air power, and with that will follow the rest of the Royal Navy in the pacific. And Thompson had better hope Singapore doesn't hold out, because boy does Singapore not falling when it did dramatically change the world in the post-war period.
 
Uh, have you read Holding the Line?

Force Z is still mostly symbolic in this timeline, but if they fight smart they can cause some meaningful pain for the IJN, at least in part because they have some air cover now (which beats the hell out of no air cover). If nothing else, any delay in the IJN's intricately interlinked plans is going to cause some really unpleasant (for the IJN and IJA) cascade effects.
 
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And Thompson had better hope Singapore doesn't hold out, because boy does Singapore not falling when it did dramatically change the world in the post-war period.
But wouldn't that also be like hoping all the atrocities committed by the japanese army after they took Singapore also happen. The Alexandra Hospital massacre comes to mind.
 
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Uh, have you read Holding the Line?

Force Z is still mostly symbolic in this timeline, but if they fight smart they can cause some meaningful pain for the IJN, at least in part because they have some air cover now (which beats the hell out of no air cover). If nothing else, any delay in the IJN's intricately interlinked plans is going to cause some really unpleasant (for the IJN and IJA) cascade effects.

There is no "fighting smart" for Force Z, it's three fucking ships and a handful of fighters. Glorious's presence changes nothing - the Japanese are already sending every heavy ship they have in the region, and I-65 is still reporting everything from what ships are in the force to how many working lavatories they have, so all that will happen with the aircraft is the Japanese will send more planes, especially fighters.

The only thing that materially changes the situation with Force Z is if I-65 is somehow driven off or sunk. Which is unlikely given the British never sighted her.
 
Utah self-summoned because she was connected to Jackson. Gneisenau likely self-summoned via a connection to her captain. I just realized that shipgirls will only self-summon if they have that human element. If Hiryuu were to go down, she'd self-summon to avenge Tamon-maru, but I doubt Kaga lacks the connection to Captain Okuda she needs in order to have that drive to return.
I agree about Hiryu...she's very close to RADM Yamaguchi. And Kaga's Captain is Okada, not Okuda.
 
Let's be honest. Kaga is not going to be captured in any way. But, I do wonder if some higher ups in the US navy will start to wonder about the existence of shipgirls in the IJN.

There's proof that shipgirls are a universal phenomena. You have the USN girls (Sara, E, Utah, Ari, etc.) and at least one RN girl (Hood) being seen by USN officers. Not exactly a hard leap of logic to assume that the IJN, KM, RM, and everyone else have their own spirits on board their ships.

The big secret is less 'the girls exist' but 'the girls can exist after their hulls go to the bottom' which is why Utah is a top secret. After all, if the IJN found out about that, they would bring Kaga back to throw in the fire again. As a side note, Hiryuu now knows that the girls can communicate with each other since she spoke to the dying Kaga and from there you have a short step to her trying to talk to Tamon-maru ala Halsey and Little E.
 
There is no "fighting smart" for Force Z, it's three fucking ships and a handful of fighters. Glorious's presence changes nothing - the Japanese are already sending every heavy ship they have in the region, and I-65 is still reporting everything from what ships are in the force to how many working lavatories they have, so all that will happen with the aircraft is the Japanese will send more planes, especially fighters.

The only thing that materially changes the situation with Force Z is if I-65 is somehow driven off or sunk. Which is unlikely given the British never sighted her.

OTL, those Heavy IJN ships were Kongo and Haruna. PoW will do pretty well against them, while Repulse is a bit more weak to them. the bigger threat is the 7 Heavy Cruisers escorting them. It would be an ugly fight, not a one-sided one. And those IJN bombers aren't gonna have a Zero Escort. Those were mostly deployed to the Frontline IJN CVs, and they've all been mauled. The most likely escort would be the A5M, which is a much older and less capable plane. So no, I don't think that IJN will get the same smashing victory like they did IRL. (Also Repulse is one of Sky's Waifus, and I can't see him sinking her that early on.)
 
Truk is already in Japan hands, correct?

Correct. It has been since 1918 IIRC and has been developed as Japanese fleet base since the 1920s.

Would it be worth it to Invade there before it can be used to cut off American/ Austrailian Shipping? It is a major base, comparable to Pearl for the IJN.

Operation Hailstone - Wikipedia

Of course, the IJN losing that forward base may prevent a few battles from taking place.

Absolutely not this early.

Right now the fleet carrier numbers in the Pacific are 5-3 IJN (Sara's damaged, Kaga's sunk, Hornet and Wasp are unavailable). CVL and BB numbers are comparable to worse with ships damaged and needing repair like Ari eating a torpedo. Any kind of USN counterattack before mid to late 1942 is begging to get the KANTAI KESSEN treatment from a equal to superior IJN as the USN fights away from their bases.

Basically for the next few months to a year of the war, the USN will be fighting primarily on the defensive with limited counterattacks to try to thwart IJN offensives and pick off weak points. The USN doesn't have the fleet oilers, ships, airpower, and basing yet to actually start a serious offensive, although the strategic situation is better than IOTL (fewer losses at pearl, Wake held, Kaga sunk). Now once the 'ordered in 1940' construction arrives like the first Essexes, Independences, and NorCals/SoDaks in 1941-43, followed by the 'war priority construction' AKA ALL THE SHIPS EVER 1943-45 then it's time to wrest the initiative away from the IJN and beat them over the head and shoulders with it until they submit.

This is true, but the Japanese showed that it was possible, on an albeit smaller sacle with the USS Stewart, who after being severely damaged in the battle of Badung Strait was put into a floating dry dock in Surabya, but wasn't properly secured so she toppled onto her side in the dry dock causing more damage. Decding that she couldn't be saved she was scuttled with demolition charges and then the dry dock she was in was scuttled aswell. She sat on the bottom of Surabya bay for almost a year before being raised and rebuilt by the japanese. She was eventually recaptured by the US at the end of the war.

True, it is not impossible, but highly impractical. The USN will need those drydock slots for their own cap ships like half of Battleship Row (Oklahoma, Wee Vee, and Arizona for sure), and the materials and manpower to renovate Kaga will be coming from other easier projects that yield more value.

Assuming her magazine doesn't cook off and the fire stays in her upper works, her engineering works and auxiliary controls could still be operational and if she doesn't have any long lances slammed into her side before she can be captured and the fire has gone out she could be steamed under her own power back to Pearl Harbor. There she could get stop gap repairs so that she could reach a west coast ship yard and if she doesn't have any damage below the water line she wouldn't need to take up dry dock space. Tie her up at the dock and then start taking cutting torches to everything above the main deck. This will allow the installation of an american spec hanger, elevators, and flight deck. In terms of AA armament she could get the Chicago pianos that are now being phased out for 40mm and 20mm's. This all assumes that the fire stays in the upperworks and she doesn't suffer damage below the waterline though.

That's a lot of assumptions, and also assumes that the Japanese don't simply steam or tow her back to Kure after the fire burns itself out.

The other problem is every West Coast shipyard (and East Coast shipyard, and Gulf Coast shipyard) will be incredibly busy with both emergency repairs of damaged USN ships and emergency wartime production of new USN ships. Full stop. Newport News Shipbuilding (who built Little E and her sisters) built 243 ships under naval contracts 1941-45, and had to build an auxiliary shipyard from scratch in North Carolina just to have space so that they could build ships that were demanded. That's just one company as a representative example of the Arsenal of Democracy at work.

There was an incredible shortage of trained, untrained, semi-trained and "fuckit when can you start work for us?" level manpower in the US shipbuilding industry (and US industry in general!) during WWII. A large part of the reason women and blacks entered the workforce then in such massive numbers was the demand for people to fill the jobs was so great. It is no exaggeration to say that most of the shipyards ran nonstop 24/7/365 from shortly after Pearl Harbor until Spring 1945 when the US Navy took the foot off the gas and started cancelling orders for ships that would not be completed before Japan would be invaded.

These are the official naval numbers for the USN 1938-1945 (keeping in mind that the Japanese and Germans were sinking ships as fast as they humanly could during the war) 1938: 380 1939:394 1940: 478 1941 (on December 7th): 790 1942: 1782 1943: 3699 1944: 6084 1945 (V-J Day, end of the war): 6768. That doesn't count ships that were ordered and construction started before being canceled like the final two Iowas, the Montana-class BBs, the later Alaska-class CBs, the late-flight Essex-class CVs, etc etc.

EDIT-Looking at the numbers from US Ship Force Levels always makes me shake my head. The US Navy doubled in size 1941-42, then doubled in size from that in 1943 and grew by an additional 50% in 1944, by which point the naval war in the Pacific was over. The numbers for individual ship classes are equally staggering. CV 7, 4, 19, 25, 28. CVE 1, 12, 35, 65, 71. And so on and so forth. An unstoppable tide of steel indeed.

Kaga is fortunate that she goes to the bottom while believing that thanks to her Japan can win the war. For Hiryuu, Zuikaku, Akagi, and the others, they won't even have that cold comfort when death comes for them.
 
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Correct. It has been since 1918 IIRC and has been developed as Japanese fleet base since the 1920s.

There was an incredible shortage of trained, untrained, semi-trained and "fuckit when can you start work for us?" level manpower in the US shipbuilding industry (and US industry in general!) during WWII. A large part of the reason women and blacks entered the workforce then in such massive numbers was the demand for people to fill the jobs was so great. It is no exaggeration to say that most of the shipyards ran nonstop 24/7/365 from shortly after Pearl Harbor until Spring 1945 when the US Navy took the foot off the gas and started cancelling orders for ships that would not be completed before Japan would be invaded.

And that led to the popularity of "Rosie the Riveter"
 
And that led to the popularity of "Rosie the Riveter"

Oh yes, but again the reason for that was the war industries needed Rosie the Riveter to turn out the planes, tanks, guns, and ships that would bury the Axis powers. The combination of men leaving the workforce to go into uniform and the demands of war industries forced companies like Newport News Shipbuilding to hire and train women just so they could turn out all the Essex-class carriers and other ships the Navy needed to win the war.
 
Oh yes, but again the reason for that was the war industries needed Rosie the Riveter to turn out the planes, tanks, guns, and ships that would bury the Axis powers. The combination of men leaving the workforce to go into uniform and the demands of war industries forced companies like Newport News Shipbuilding to hire and train women just so they could turn out all the Essex-class carriers and other ships the Navy needed to win the war.

There are still a number of grandmothers and great-grandmothers around here, who still reminisce about their work at Boeing, Kaiser, and Todd, "back in the Day"
 
He's right in the two hull-free German shipgirls. I forgot about one. But nowhere in the story there is a claim about them being self-summoned. We don't know their stories and how they came to be shipgirls without hulls.

So, citation on them specifically being self-summoned? :Citation Needed:

I admit I assumed they self summoned because I can't think of any other way for them to pop up, but who knows. Maybe they're hinting at some unknown third party.
 
There is no "fighting smart" for Force Z, it's three fucking ships and a handful of fighters. Glorious's presence changes nothing - the Japanese are already sending every heavy ship they have in the region, and I-65 is still reporting everything from what ships are in the force to how many working lavatories they have, so all that will happen with the aircraft is the Japanese will send more planes, especially fighters.

The only thing that materially changes the situation with Force Z is if I-65 is somehow driven off or sunk. Which is unlikely given the British never sighted her.
It's seven ships and a handful of fighters. If this is going as OTL, then they have four destroyers of reasonably modern vintage along for the ride.
 
It's seven ships and a handful of fighters. If this is going as OTL, then they have four destroyers of reasonably modern vintage along for the ride.

And there are other ships in Singapore that could also be added to this, mostly CLs. Hermes is also on her way to reinforce Force Z. Oh, and there's a bunch of land-based British Fighters.
 
Um

I admit to not being an expert but um

Working in universe as the US, exactly how much knowledge are they really working with in regards to the most recent battle and does the navy even know how and why Utah came back? In regards to shipgirls does the navy have any desire for intel on the chances of the Japanese somehow stumbling upon the existence of shipgirls by accident or if they exist as potential enemy combatants?

For all the US knows it may just be a fluke and not an international occurrence as the captains and admirals aren't entirely aware of each other let alone the politicians in charge so for kaga my guess is that she'll be used to test the existence of such spirits in enemy hands, intel, maybe morale, but likely sent to the bottom after looting a few items to send back to base for researching how enemy tech might function

Opsec is a thing in WWII so I doubt any pictures would go public soon if ever during the war but certainly after it
 
Working in universe as the US, exactly how much knowledge are they really working with in regards to the most recent battle

Japanese Carrier (Kaga) left dead in the water and burning like a five-alarm fire. Japanese destroyer (Arare) shattered and sinking, Japanese cut and ran from Wake. They will call it a victory (more or less correctly) and eventually get confirmation that Kaga is sunk through codebreaking or other espionage means.

This of course would be assembled from reports from Thompson, Halsey, the pilots, plus the Wake garrison, which will be flying search planes ASAP over the waters where Kaga sank.

does the navy even know how and why Utah came back?

Probably yes as to the why, since they talked to her. As to how, they might not have a clue. Thompson probably is not going to talk about shipgirl summoning.

In regards to shipgirls does the navy have any desire for intel on the chances of the Japanese somehow stumbling upon the existence of shipgirls by accident or if they exist as potential enemy combatants?

They would want to know if the Japanese are exploiting them and if any sunk girls come back as self-summons. Finding that out in WWII Japan is the real trick since about the only real penetration of Japanese security then was by the Russians. Sorge was also more diplomatic intel than actual naval intelligence.

For all the US knows it may just be a fluke and not an international occurrence as the captains and admirals aren't entirely aware of each other let alone the politicians in charge so for kaga my guess is that she'll be used to test the existence of such spirits in enemy hands, intel, maybe morale, but likely sent to the bottom after looting a few items to send back to base for researching how enemy tech might function

Opsec is a thing in WWII so I doubt any pictures would go public soon if ever during the war but certainly after it

As noted, Kaga is going to be scuttled by the Japanese destroyers once they evacuate her surviving crew and the emperor's portrait after determining that she cannot be saved. This also assumes that the secondary explosions or other damage did not result in flooding that will capsize her. SOP for crippled ships in potentially hostile waters (IE the carriers at Midway, Atlanta after Guadalcanal, Hornet at Santa Cruz) was to scuttle them to prevent the enemy taking advantage if they were left adrift (by boarding them and getting the naval codes).

If any USN aerial photos exist of Kaga burning, they will be front page news within the week.
 
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OTL, those Heavy IJN ships were Kongo and Haruna. PoW will do pretty well against them, while Repulse is a bit more weak to them. the bigger threat is the 7 Heavy Cruisers escorting them. It would be an ugly fight, not a one-sided one. And those IJN bombers aren't gonna have a Zero Escort. Those were mostly deployed to the Frontline IJN CVs, and they've all been mauled. The most likely escort would be the A5M, which is a much older and less capable plane. So no, I don't think that IJN will get the same smashing victory like they did IRL. (Also Repulse is one of Sky's Waifus, and I can't see him sinking her that early on.)

I wouldn't discount Kongo and Haruna just because of their weak armor and small guns, though the issue is less what the heavy ships were and more that they outnumber Force Z three-to-one in heavies and two-to-one in DDs. That's a pretty one-sided fight. Further, Glorious isn't exactly fully loaded with fighters, she's still got her full compliment of bombers. There are maybe 30 fighters at most with the British and it's not like Japan would be wanting for planes at this point, even if they are A5Ms. The point isn't to shoot anything down, the point is to make sure the bombers don't get shot down.

It's seven ships and a handful of fighters. If this is going as OTL, then they have four destroyers of reasonably modern vintage along for the ride.

Four destroyers that don't have great anti-air capability and are outnumbered two-to-one at sea anyway, which is going to limit their ability to hold themselves steady to shoot at aircraft.

And there are other ships in Singapore that could also be added to this, mostly CLs. Hermes is also on her way to reinforce Force Z. Oh, and there's a bunch of land-based British Fighters.

Honestly it's more likely the land based fighters would have gotten involved in OTL, with Glorious and potentially Hermes there'd be even less reason to send up fighters to escort Force Z.

I really don't see Force Z making it out without a total loss unless I-65 is sunk or driven off. Even then, I'm not sure if it'd be smart in a story like this to put in something with as big of a butterfly effect as Force Z not being lost. Force Z sticking around means potentially the Japanese never make it off the beach at Singapore. Singapore not falling means India probably gets dominion status at best. Singapore and India remaining part of the Empire and Commonwealth respectively... changes modern geopolitics radically.
 
As mentioned, the one reasons to keep Kaga afloat, are to sink her. Ironic, but true.

Test the torpedoes against what is effectively a battlecruiser/pocket battleship hull, and see how they work. As is obvious to most of us, they won't work. And getting them to work would pay enormous dividends in short order.

Any of the codebooks picked up are effectively useless within a month or less, if they take her. Simply because the IJN would immediately switch to new codes. All the old ones would do is confirm prior code-breaking work (I forgot if the fleet code was already broken, or was still in the process of being broken, as to how long they had it opened up before Midway IRL).

Other than that, the only usable gains would be to look at Kaga's internals below the waterline to see where best to 'hope' to aim for, especially torpedoes. Although even that is of limited value as the only other IJN carrier even close to Kaga's design is Akagi, and even that is pushing it. A lot. None of the other carriers have the same exact faults/strengths, so again, very limited, very 'niche' intel to be gained.

Intangibly? Thompson and the others in the know about ship 'spirits' could possibly put her through interrogation. She is utterly loyal, but as we've seen already with the various shipgirl spirits, they aren't infallible. Get her to talk, and see what off-hand comments she makes that, to her, don't SEEM vital for intelligence purposes - crops, weather, 'oh so you went past four islands that were close together, but won't say which ones? We'll go look up your cruising speed and see which island cluster matches that, even if you don't say the names', was the paint new or old, and so on. There are all kinds of things a good interrogator can wheedle out of someone just by shooting the shit with them, or listening to them complain about meals/weather/etc.

Finally, the only other reason is to possibly warn her ahead of time that the Abyssals are coming, and to ready herself for her second life. Give HER intel as to what lies in the future, as anything that could warn the future military of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th+ waves of Abyssals, would be incredibly valuable. After all, the time-jumpers are only human, and likely going to be either in their 80-90s or dead, when the Abyssals show up. And while writing memoirs that are locked away for safekeeping is all well and good, having an actual person with intel still (mostly) fresh in their minds is even more valuable.

Beyond that, she's a worthless hulk. Keeping her afloat is more an insult to Japan than anything, and it'd cost more for the USN to guard her/keep her afloat, than it's worth it in the end. So no matter what, she's dead anyways.
 
ntangibly? Thompson and the others in the know about ship 'spirits' could possibly put her through interrogation. She is utterly loyal, but as we've seen already with the various shipgirl spirits, they aren't infallible. Get her to talk, and see what off-hand comments she makes that, to her, don't SEEM vital for intelligence purposes - crops, weather, 'oh so you went past four islands that were close together, but won't say which ones? We'll go look up your cruising speed and see which island cluster matches that, even if you don't say the names', was the paint new or old, and so on. There are all kinds of things a good interrogator can wheedle out of someone just by shooting the shit with them, or listening to them complain about meals/weather/etc.

This is a pipe dream. This supposes that Kaga can be separated from her hull, that she allows herself to be captured by the Americans, that there is a facility that can hold her, and that the Americans have the means of preventing her escape. Right now, none of these things can happen.


Let's say that all of the above has happened. It's also a pipe dream to think any interragator is going to get her to talk. She's a warship of the Imperial Japanese Navy. As such, she regards herself as one of the most fanatically loyal samauri of the Emperor and as the sword and shield of Japan. Given the circumstances, she knows she's a prisoner of war. She's not going to talk and the interregator has no means to compel her to talk. He or she can toss out all sorts of off hand comments and all she'll do is file it away and think "So the Americans think they can catch me off guard and reveal any information. How foolish!" She's not going to say anything, because that would be disloyal to the Emperor and Japan. And she'd rather scuttle herself than bring dishonor on herself for such disloyalty.


Finally, the only other reason is to possibly warn her ahead of time that the Abyssals are coming, and to ready herself for her second life. Give HER intel as to what lies in the future, as anything that could warn the future military of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th+ waves of Abyssals, would be incredibly valuable. After all, the time-jumpers are only human, and likely going to be either in their 80-90s or dead, when the Abyssals show up. And while writing memoirs that are locked away for safekeeping is all well and good, having an actual person with intel still (mostly) fresh in their minds is even more valuable.

Again, this is a pipe dream. To a warrior, the future is the future. It can be dreamed about, but to a warrior, it doesn't matter. The only thing that counts is today, this hour, this moment. Because if you don't get through this moment in time, the future will never exist.
 
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Any of the codebooks picked up are effectively useless within a month or less, if they take her. Simply because the IJN would immediately switch to new codes. All the old ones would do is confirm prior code-breaking work (I forgot if the fleet code was already broken, or was still in the process of being broken, as to how long they had it opened up before Midway IRL).

Process of being broken IIRC. I think they cracked JN-25 in the April-May time frame so too late for Coral Sea. I know that a planned code shift was supposed to have taken place in either April or May that would have screwed up the codebreakers, but because of the difficulty of getting copies out to everyone, they pushed it back to late May/June. So they had the operations orders, but the actual messages generated at Midway were after the window had slammed shut for the codebreakers.

I really don't see Force Z making it out without a total loss unless I-65 is sunk or driven off. Even then, I'm not sure if it'd be smart in a story like this to put in something with as big of a butterfly effect as Force Z not being lost. Force Z sticking around means potentially the Japanese never make it off the beach at Singapore. Singapore not falling means India probably gets dominion status at best. Singapore and India remaining part of the Empire and Commonwealth respectively... changes modern geopolitics radically.

One thing to point out is that because the invasion timeline got pushed up a week from OTL (Pearl got hit November 30th rather than December 7th), all the other Japanese invasion plans would have to follow suit. This means that when Pearl got hit, Force Z was enroute to Singapore rather than at Singapore, therefore Force Z would not sortie north to intercept the transports because the transports had come and gone by the time Force Z could have physically reached them. I-65 is irrelevant here (and might not be in the area yet, pushing the timeline ahead a week works both ways and her speed is not all that fast.

So it is equally likely that Force Z shows, and rather than head up to sink the transports and bombard the beaches, they are dispatched to the DEI to link with the Asiatic fleet because that is the more threatened area in everyone's eyes. A week later the bulk of the Japanese troops are off the beaches and pushing well inland, after all.

Other than that, the only usable gains would be to look at Kaga's internals below the waterline to see where best to 'hope' to aim for, especially torpedoes. Although even that is of limited value as the only other IJN carrier even close to Kaga's design is Akagi, and even that is pushing it. A lot. None of the other carriers have the same exact faults/strengths, so again, very limited, very 'niche' intel to be gained.

Well, also the Nagatos might be similar to the Tosa-class hull of Kaga since the Tosas were a refinement of the Nagatos. But you are right, that is really pushing it.

Intangibly? Thompson and the others in the know about ship 'spirits' could possibly put her through interrogation. She is utterly loyal, but as we've seen already with the various shipgirl spirits, they aren't infallible. Get her to talk, and see what off-hand comments she makes that, to her, don't SEEM vital for intelligence purposes - crops, weather, 'oh so you went past four islands that were close together, but won't say which ones? We'll go look up your cruising speed and see which island cluster matches that, even if you don't say the names', was the paint new or old, and so on. There are all kinds of things a good interrogator can wheedle out of someone just by shooting the shit with them, or listening to them complain about meals/weather/etc.

Finally, the only other reason is to possibly warn her ahead of time that the Abyssals are coming, and to ready herself for her second life. Give HER intel as to what lies in the future, as anything that could warn the future military of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th+ waves of Abyssals, would be incredibly valuable. After all, the time-jumpers are only human, and likely going to be either in their 80-90s or dead, when the Abyssals show up. And while writing memoirs that are locked away for safekeeping is all well and good, having an actual person with intel still (mostly) fresh in their minds is even more valuable.

Well, Thompson should have warned Sara about the Abyssals as well, since the subject of "why were shipgirls runnign around your time?"should have come up early on. Telling Kaga about them is a great idea as well just in case since you don't know who will come back in what order.
 
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