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Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

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Wobulator said:
Also, Kaga's... kind of an awful design. I don't think the USN wants her.
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Towing her to be scrapped at a Kaiser Shipyard and then giving an statement that the original idea was to meld it for american ships but the quality of the steel was too low for even destroyer escorts so they would have to use it for cutery for the Marines would do wonders for american morale.
 
They wouldn't even need to repair her. Just the sheer propaganda value of capturing one of the carriers that attacked pearl would be enough. Take some pictures of her under the American flag and turn them into propaganda leaflets and drop them on Japan. Then you can just scrap her and turn her into spam cans or machine gun barrels for all I care.
 
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BF110C4 said:
One maybe, but japanese destroyers were particularly well armed and unlike american torpedoes theirs will hit and then they will detonate.
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But on the off chance she makes it through her scuttling i'd just love the look of Kaga flying the american flag steaming into battle. Since american carriers are still named after battles, maybe rename her the USS Pearl Harbor, really stick it in and twist. Propaganda.
 
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I agree that the mental picture of Saratoga towing Kaga, with Sara's spirit in her aft, laughing her cute ass off at the sight of a grumpy looking Kaga in her respective fore, is hilarious as hell.

But I think it won't happen. <sigh>

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And just to add salt to the wound commision her as a training carrier so an entire generation of american pilots learn their trade on her flattop.
 
Even if, by some miracle, the Americans kept Kaga from sinking...they would probably scuttle her themselves. Her scrap value is questionable and she has no value as a carrier with the Essex Swarmtm ​about to come online. She's slow, she's old, she's not well designed...they wouldn't bother.
 
Scarlet Storm said:
They aren't commissioned yet.
It would be great to have Kaga as propaganda material though.
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The only propaganda use I see Kaga having, and this is an extreme stretch, is an American boarding party waving the Stars and Stripes off her deck before she's scuttled.

But in all seriousness, Kaga is going under, and I'm unsure why people cannot accept that.
 
CompassJimbo said:
The only propaganda use I see Kaga having, and this is an extreme stretch, is an American boarding party waving the Stars and Stripes off her deck before she's scuttled.
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Well. I think Japanese ships don't have a bell or, at least, it doesn't hold the same symbolic value for them than for the Western Navies. But IJN ships do have a thing that is unique to each ship: the Imperial Chrysantemum in the fore of the ship. Take that, and you will have undeniable evidence that you captured Kaga.
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But in all seriousness, Kaga is going under, and I'm unsure why people cannot accept that.
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I do, but speculating and what ifs are fun... Also...
pjmoyer said:
Because the fandom loves Grumpy Noble Kaga (tm) and want to see her in this fic.

:)
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While I'm not quite fond of Kaga, a lot of people are. And they would like for her to take the side of the US, or at least out of the conflict without sinking. That's not in the cards but, if we have to judge from the little speech Kaga gave Hiryu, she might sink with a wildly different mindset.
 
if we did capture Kaga, we would be able to get a much more detailed look at the ships designs, and how they operated them, as i am sure that are many pages of "SECRET" and "TOP SECRET" that can help the Allies in fighting and understanding the other ships in the Japanese fleet. as well as potentially a few Zero's to learn how to work and their capabilites. Then, propaganda, keep it in Pearl or even send it to California to keep it safe, and propaganda reasons. THen, after the War, use her for Atomic Testing.
 
BigBadBen said:
if we did capture Kaga, we would be able to get a much more detailed look at the ships designs, and how they operated them, as i am sure that are many pages of "SECRET" and "TOP SECRET" that can help the Allies in fighting and understanding the other ships in the Japanese fleet. as well as potentially a few Zero's to learn how to work and their capabilites. Then, propaganda, keep it in Pearl or even send it to California to keep it safe, and propaganda reasons. THen, after the War, use her for Atomic Testing.
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Kaga's hulk is going to tell them that the IJN has the broad concepts of ship design right, and nothing else. There won't be enough of the wreck left for the USN inspectors to tell much about the details of her design, which is where the IJN suffered.
 
BigBadBen said:
if we did capture Kaga, we would be able to get a much more detailed look at the ships designs, and how they operated them, as i am sure that are many pages of "SECRET" and "TOP SECRET" that can help the Allies in fighting and understanding the other ships in the Japanese fleet. as well as potentially a few Zero's to learn how to work and their capabilites. Then, propaganda, keep it in Pearl or even send it to California to keep it safe, and propaganda reasons. THen, after the War, use her for Atomic Testing.
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Probably not since her secret papers would have been destroyed by the fire if not as part of the scuttling process. The only way she would have Zeroes on board would have been if one was under repair before the battle since all her flyable planes were used. As well any planes left on board would be in the gutted hangar decks and would have been destroyed by the fire.

pjmoyer said:
Because the fandom loves Grumpy Noble Kaga (tm) and want to see her in this fic.

:)
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True, Kaga is definitely facing her end with dignity.
 
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