- Location
- Pacific NW
Ahh... well worth the wait.
Changing Destiny (Kancolle)
- Thread starter Skywalker_T-65
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Old Iron
Admiral Unfun
- Location
- The Southwestern Deadlands of America
A stupendous chapter I say!
It was really nice to see more of Little E and Papa Halsey. She's such a kind girl. I really hope she has as many chances as possible to make these kinds of precious memories.
And seeing Utah again was a treat. Though that whole scene fills me with a sense of dread... A premonition of things to come?
Hood, dear, you are going to be all sorts of fun. I don't think Harrington grasps the full scale of what he's gotten himself into. XD
I more than liked it. I loved it.
Retsof
I will keep you safe.
Very nice! But..
Nope, not a flag. Definitely not foreshadowing. Nope nope nope nope.
- Location
- New York
Ya know, I was actually thinking about this too... So we know the girls have a pretty good idea of their own condition, and that they can at least manipulate the radios... I wonder how much control over themselves they actually have though? Could they potentially have faster reaction times for maneuvering or changing speed? What about minute adjustments to the traverse and elevation of the guns to get them juuust right on target?
Methinks that if the Admiralty gets this info and decides to roll with it, the Royal Navy's already impressive gunnery record will get a lot better. And combine that with a historically accurate marksman like, say, Warspite?
I'd want to ask her at some point what it's like to shoot 8 AWPs at once.
TortugaGreen
Constantly out of the loop
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Should be principle, I think
Sir_Braazmiir
Tiefling Paladin
- Location
- Wherever I am
I can only imagine Yamato at Samar managing to sink more than Johnston, Hoel, Sammy, and a jeep carrier.
And Sky, that omake was just the right amount of feels.
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Dirtnap
Kanmusu Affecionado
Sammy was confirmed as a Kongou hit.
Johnston, Hoel and Gambier Bay are as you say, Yamato's.
DawnofWar32
War is coming. Prepare yourselves!
- Location
- Butuan City, The Philippines
This chapter is worth the wait. Thanks for the double update.
But what if it is?
Sir_Braazmiir
Tiefling Paladin
- Location
- Wherever I am
I think they were based off WSG, with different outfits.
Shaithan
Re-class is happiest class
- Location
- The worst part of Germany
principle. Principal is the guy in charge of a school.
Other than that, great chapters. I very much enjoyed this.
From discussions with Sky, it's a mix of those designs and original ones by him. For example, Yorktown isn't a redhead in either of those universes. I think only me and Sky have her as a redhead honestly.
- Location
- New York
No, only Gambier was Yamato's, and even that's questionable. Johnston and Hoel were both sunk by Centre Force's escorts.
I must say, this whole part was rather touching.
I'm anticipating Halsey returning a hug on December 6, in an ironic twist of narrative.
I noticed a bit of foreshadowing re: Little E here, though I admit I may be reading too deep. Anyway, Utah did her best in trying to reassure Yorktown, though that's not going to stop the latter from worrying while over in the Atlantic.
Try to understand where she's coming from, Harrington. Over the years, the British Admiralty has been a little...slipshod...regarding proper repair and refit for the Fleets' capital ships. For understandable reasons, yes, but you should expect some grumbling nonetheless.
Well, it's less reading him well rather than Thompson really needing to conceal his reactions and emotions better.
I just hope the Admiralty doesn't get the wrong notions in their heads about this...
I wonder, was Ari refit with 4 quad 1.1 in. AA mounts like planned, or was Adm. Wilson able to swing a greater number of them?
Hahaha, Ari's a shipper I see? Why can I see Little E and Ari conspiring with each other?
Nice work with these latest entries, Sky.
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
That's actually come under some revision after the Center Force's ship logs were examined. Most of what were attributed to Kongou by the Americans were actually Yamato's hits, and Kongou didn't even have sight of the targets.
EDIT: Here we go.
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- Location
- North Carolina
Hard to believe one would mistake damage caused by an 18.1in shell for damage caused by a 14in shell. Then again the Japanese had a history of misidentifying American Ships. When Yamato engaged Gamblier Bay, they did it first with radar and thought she was a battleship, it wasn't until they acquired visual that they realized she was an Aircraft Carrier, of course then they mistook Gamblier Bay for USS Enterprise.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Do you know what the difference is between an 18.1 and an 14 inch shell hit looks and feels like? You don't, and neither did the US Navy during the War. For all we compromised their communications, things like the Yamato's gun caliber were not definitively known until after the war. There was much speculation, but that was confined to those 'in the know'.
- Location
- In the depts of despair.
To be fair part of the reason they mistook the caliber of the guns opening holes in their hulls is because the japanese were using AP that overpenetrated against the thin-skinned CVE's, DD's and DE's so the damage was much less that they would have expected from 14" munition, much less the 18.1". Plus the specifications of the Yamato weren't widely known, including the range of its main guns, so they believed the damage was done by the nearest capital ship in the correct angle to provoke the damage instead of a flagship beyond effective range of more conventional guns.
- Location
- Pale Blue Dot
Even if all they can give is information, well... Shipgirl perception is rather good. "I think we have a submarine 800 meters starboard, 4 o'clock." and similar messages would be VERY useful. Not to mention if a ship is going in dangerous and not necessarily properly charted waters "10 degrees port, slow down to 10 knots, hold, in ten seconds turn 30 degrees starboard... 5, 4,"
Once the navies do figure out what kind of things the Shipgirls can affect, it would be an intelligent thing to do to make certain they can easilly turn on things like fire suppression and emergency water pumps on their own. A ship with partially automated damage control systems in the 1940's? Yes please! The crew at the location might be very dead, after all.
So... the 'obvious' possibilities with shipgirls:
1) Communications
2) Impossible-to-otherwise-get exact information about status of ship and components
3) Sensors
4) Possibly improved damage control systems
5) Possibly improved targeting
6) Civilians freaking out
Ship boarding actions if the ship avatar was standing at the gangway with a 2 by 4 and a willingness to use it would be just a sad affair. I wonder if they would automatically know about stowaways? Oh, and I could see some ship chaplain insisting on the shipgirl picking up a cross and watching very hard for any sign of smoke coming off the girl or cross at that point.
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- Location
- New York
Lundgren's account doesn't make sense though, as by the time of Leyete Gulf, the US had plenty of intelligence on Yamato's physical design and layout, and knew everything but the actual calibre of the guns (which based on intelligence were assumed to be 41cm guns, as that was their official designation), the top speed, and the thickness of the armor. There's no reason the Americans would have mistaken Yamato's shellfire for Kongo's or Haruna's. Nagato's maybe, but Yamato's shells were simply too much more powerful than what Kongo had to be confused for them. Yamato being in position to engage the destroyers also doesn't match up with the Japanese reports, which show Yamato's and Nagato's forced withdraw as occurring well before any of the DDs or DEs were sunk. There are other issues as well, but we're starting to go off topic and I don't want to take the thread any more off the rails than it already is. In conclusion though, Lundgren's work reeks of being more speculative than anything else, and there's a good reason why despite being around for a couple years at this point you don't see Lundgren brought up more.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Says the guy spending 200 un-evidenced words to just get the last word in.
- Location
- North Carolina
Plus, I am pretty damn sure that Americans had a good idea of how fast one of these ships could go. An American Submarine stumbled across the Musashi and managed to stick a torpedo into it, of course after that they were forced to dive deep as Musashi's escorts delivered a depth-charging.
Skywalker_T-65
Writer with too many ideas.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- Plural/They/He/Her
Well, I'm glad it was worth the wait. Certainly took longer than I would have wanted, for sure.
Heh. Little E is an interesting character to get in the head of. Since she's so...cheerful. I'm trying to show how she's developing towards Big E with the way she's picking up Halsey's traits...
And then she demands CUTE.
Utah deserved a bit of screen time, considering the focus being distinctly Atlantic for now. Like with Hood.
I more than liked it. I loved it.
Glad you liked it.
Hm.
Typos, they still manage to sneak in no matter how many editing passes I do. -_-
Well, that and autocorrect will tell me if something is spelled right but not if it is the proper word. Will edit that...eventually.
Then it worked as intended. Wanted to get the feels down properly, considering the day (well, the day it was intended to be posted on).
I'm happy you liked the updates.
To specify, I mix and match designs. If there is a KC design, I'll naturally use that one first and foremost- well, other than Sara, but again...that would be retconning her design a second time.
If there is a Pacific design I like, I'll use it too. Like (with proper skirt) Little E or Ari.
And if there's a WSG one I like, I'll use it too. Blucher, in this case, is an example.
Otherwise though? If there isn't a KC design or if I don't like the Pac/WSG one (hello stupid, stupid Ranger design) I'm going to use my own ideas and make an original design. Like the ones I linked at the start of the update. Or the fact that the pre-war carriers- including Lex, because I'm liking my original design more than the WSG one now -other than Sara and E are going to be original, as I said before.
So...KC for what KC has, the occasional WSG/Pac design, and otherwise completely original. Probably going to be mostly original for everyone not named Japan, because while some WSG designs are good...some...
For example, apologies to Winter, but I'm not much a fan of Scharn and Gneis' outfits in WSG. So original there.
Glad that worked. Was what I was aiming for.
Hm.
Honestly, that's something I've been trying to show from the start really. Thompson is in way over his head, and it shows in little ways like that. The man is smart, but he's certainly playing with things above his pay grade and...
Greater number. She's certainly not late-war USN insfoar as GUNS! GUNS ON EVERY FLAT SURFACE! AND THEN ADD MORE!
But she's better armed than she historically was.
Well, it wouldn't be very surprising if they did
Hm.
I'll say there are things they can do and things they can't do. Any more would be spoilery.
Anywho, one last thing re: Yamato at Samar.
Again, not something that will happen in here. Too many butterflies.
This said, if people want to argue that subject, please do it in the proper threads. It seems to have ended on its own, but the notice still needs to be made. I don't want to break out the new Sara pic quite that fast.
MaHaL
Conductor of the Choir of Death
- Location
- Canada
If I was a worse person I'd try and make us go off topic just to make you give us a Sara pic.
Oh okay
I still hope that you use the pacific design for the Iowa.
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