Well its about that time in the thread were I post a couple of songs I was listing too when I was going through a reread of this.
This time we have this which I think is a good fit for lower case Anna just going to the academy though we might have to change war's over to deescalated in both videos in Anna's case.


And here is one I though fit bold Anna-


Does anyone have opinions on these songs? Do you think they fit? Am I just trying to keep discussion in this thread from coming to a complete stop?
All up to you.
 
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Well, for me its too peaceful. But thats probably just me. For me its Audiomachine.

I began thinking when we should have Anna to train Blue Wave and Red Wave. Should we take WF to lvl 3 first maybe? Because if we take WF to lvl4 then we could teach the Twenty it but we would lose our unique position. Main waifu role is not likely for Anna, and so we would need is to continue be near MC and gain Near-MC-Points that transforms usually into psudo-300 core for Anna or miracle success in our skill. Usually this power is called 'power of love' or something like that. But I'm sure we can focus it into something else.
 
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Well, for me its too peaceful. But thats probably just me. For me its Audiomachine.

I began thinking when we should have Anna to train Blue Wave and Red Wave. Should we take WF to lvl 3 first maybe? Because if we take WF to lvl4 then we could teach the Twenty it but we would lose our unique position. Main waifu role is not likely for Anna, and so we would need is to continue be near MC and gain Near-MC-Points that transforms usually into psudo-300 core for Anna or miracle success in our skill. Usually this power is called 'power of love' or something like that. But I'm sure we can focus it into something else.
A) The Twenty already know Wave Force.
B) We're actually good on generating plot-relevancy, I think.
C) I'd rather get the save the world end condition.
D) We already have a pseudo-300 core, her name is Durga.
 
A) The Twenty already know Wave Force.
B) We're actually good on generating plot-relevancy, I think.
C) I'd rather get the save the world end condition.
D) We already have a pseudo-300 core, her name is Durga.
A) Doesn't mean they all already have the technique,
B) Yes but focusing on making the wider world better doesn't mean we can win the quest before our deadline
C) frankly the world is already saved, our win condition 1 way or another has to be done before the MC graduates, 3 in-universe years.
 
I'd definitely vote for blue wave over red.

Yes it's less destructive, but it also removes the 'use in super short range and expend all impeller next to an extremely dangerous enemy' problem.
And once more than just one or two people know how to use blue wave, even Class A enemies can (presumably) be stung to death at comparatively low risk with a dozen or so castings.
 
I'd definitely vote for blue wave over red.

Yes it's less destructive, but it also removes the 'use in super short range and expend all impeller next to an extremely dangerous enemy' problem.
And once more than just one or two people know how to use blue wave, even Class A enemies can (presumably) be stung to death at comparatively low risk with a dozen or so castings.

Not if they are too fast to sting before they get the hell out.
Red Wave is more decisive, in that if you land a hit, you've dealt with the enemy.

Basically, Blue is sustained DPS and Red is alpha strike burst damage. With enemies capable of either firing back or getting out, burst, paradoxically, is probably safer because it kills them before they can kill you.
 
Red Wave is also probably going to be more useful for the God Gun. We want it to do ludicrous and indiscriminate damage, not to do a thin line of massive damage.
 
I want a level in red just so we can go and super nuke a type 0, cause missing with it is a lot harder.
I mean we are absolutely going to get a level in Red Wave for pure mathematical reasons. We need four levels in Transcendent Offense to complete the goal of allowing Valks to use Wave Force. We currently have two and Blue Wave (14.3%) will almost certainly be our third. However every level we've seen costs more then the previous one. So unless Red Wave mysteriously jumps up in cost to equal the second level, assuming there is one, of Blue Wave we would reach our goal far sooner by researching the first level of Red Wave rather then proceeding onto a second level in Blue Wave.
 
I mean we are absolutely going to get a level in Red Wave for pure mathematical reasons. We need four levels in Transcendent Offense to complete the goal of allowing Valks to use Wave Force. We currently have two and Blue Wave (14.3%) will almost certainly be our third. However every level we've seen costs more then the previous one. So unless Red Wave mysteriously jumps up in cost to equal the second level, assuming there is one, of Blue Wave we would reach our goal far sooner by researching the first level of Red Wave rather then proceeding onto a second level in Blue Wave.
True also.
Type Zeros run like hell when they realise they can't win a fight and with Higgs Generators allowing them to Higgs Boost forever, it's basically impossible to keep up to deal crippling damage against them without a 300 frame.
Unless a Blue wave shot hits the Higgs Generator the Type will likely still escape.
 
Unless a Blue wave shot hits the Higgs Generator the Type will likely still escape.
I'm not so sure about that. For starters we don't know what "Very Heavy Damage" from the Blue Wave looks like. It could be enough to immediately cripple a Type Zero on anything other then a glancing blow. They are (IIRC) Valkyrie sized after all.

Then there is the fact that all the Static Wave variants destroy Higgs. So even if the Type Zero survives the initial attack it will have depleted its Higgs supply. We don't know how many Higgs are required for a teleport nor how fast a Higgs Generator of the various classes can generate that level. Given that destroying Higgs is explicitly a feature of Wave Force I think it stands to reason that, at least outside the top Type Zeroes, it provides enough of a delay for the Type Zero to be destroyed.

If anything the ability to (temporarily) shut down a Type Zero's teleportation, and any other exotics requiring Higgs, is probably Wave Force's biggest power. There are plenty of powers and weapons that deal massive damage. There are none* that can stop a teleport backed by sufficient Higgs.

*Anna has some of the best Interdiction capabilities in the world and she couldn't stop Langston from teleporting.
 
A) The Twenty already know Wave Force.
B) We're actually good on generating plot-relevancy, I think.
C) I'd rather get the save the world end condition.
D) We already have a pseudo-300 core, her name is Durga.

A) What SpeckofStardust said.
B) What SpeckofStardust said.
C) I'd rather win than let the world wi- oops. I mean just because we get to be harem girl #3 in the end doesn't mean we get to win.
D) Durge is definitely less alive than Kandakara. Then again it could it could just be his MCness that eclipses the other 300-frames. You know sometimes would the supporting characters get their breakthrough in order to keep up with the mc. Anna absolutely wouldn't change Durga both for practical and emotional reasons.


I mean we are absolutely going to get a level in Red Wave for pure mathematical reasons. We need four levels in Transcendent Offense to complete the goal of allowing Valks to use Wave Force. We currently have two and Blue Wave (14.3%) will almost certainly be our third. However every level we've seen costs more then the previous one. So unless Red Wave mysteriously jumps up in cost to equal the second level, assuming there is one, of Blue Wave we would reach our goal far sooner by researching the first level of Red Wave rather then proceeding onto a second level in Blue Wave.

Where do we see exp for Red and Blue Wave? I at least doesn't see it in Character Sheets.

Character Sheets
Static Wave:
Level 2: Upon success roll, remove all available Impeller Field and take minimal frame damage to deal enormous damage and destroy all Higgs Particles at Short range.
Skill Mastered.

Blue Wave: Expend all available Impeller and take minimal frame damage to deal very heavy damage and destroying all Higgs Particles in a line at any range.
0/1050 for Level 1.
Red Wave: Expend all available Impeller and take minimal frame damage to deal indiscriminate, enormous damage and destroying all Higgs Particles around you at short range.
0/1050 for Level 1.
 
We do know its a line and as such anything outside the line (other then energy fields) is perfectly fine.
Its less ultimately damaging then the base but can target at range is its function.

Isn't Ginnungagap (that one mega gun on the moon) based on Blue Wave. So if we began to use it in combat before they launched their attack we'd spoil the suprise and they would develop a counter to it beforehand?

Another thing that I thought was that Wave Force is like a passive mastery in this and Blue Wave is a tree branch to it. And so would it become easier if to learn other branches if we has a higher level Wave Force?
 
Anna absolutely wouldn't change Durga both for practical and emotional reasons.
Where do you get that from?

Pre-quest she's known to have been salvaging parts from wherever she can whenever she can. That's how she got a lot of her best stuff in the first place: by stealing it from defeated enemies.

Even now she's assimilating new functionality, even if it's not something that's greatly changing Durga on a basic level.
 
Where do you get that from?

Pre-quest she's known to have been salvaging parts from wherever she can whenever she can. That's how she got a lot of her best stuff in the first place: by stealing it from defeated enemies.

Even now she's assimilating new functionality, even if it's not something that's greatly changing Durga on a basic level.
I think they meant switch durga out with a 300 frame rather than change the equipment that durga has access too.
 
Where do you get that from?

Pre-quest she's known to have been salvaging parts from wherever she can whenever she can. That's how she got a lot of her best stuff in the first place: by stealing it from defeated enemies.

Even now she's assimilating new functionality, even if it's not something that's greatly changing Durga on a basic level.
By change I mean to change her core i.e one of the 300. I read that she is like 1% talent and 99% hardwork posterchild so if she were to disconnect from Druga it would truly be a traumatic experience.

Side Story: Hopes and Dreams - Spectral Waltz read it there after the post as why it was unlikely she would disconnect.



I have been informed enough times on this thread by the GM that there is no way to 'counter/block' the waveforce (still don't believe it).

That's good. Then its one less worry for me. However would it still be a spoiler AG for their space project?
 
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