Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)
- Thread starter Avalanche
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- Original
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- He/Him/His
So did she.
- Location
- Yes
I agree that it could be human sabotage. There was speculation that a human doing sabotage was a UN higher up backstabbing a rival/Sandra. I pointed out that the motive could merely be resentment towards UN's shady behavior and as was further pointed out, their open corruption.
The info got leaked from someone high up in the UN, but it doesn't require that the leak was an intentional plan by said bigwig.
I honestly can't say, because if I reread looking for it that will heavily bias the results. The main reason I mentioned it was that it distinctly stood out on a casual read-through.
Partially I think, because it was a lot of "Tell" without much "Show" framing device interwoven. And as a result seemed less like "Anna learning/researching about something" and more like "Avalanche telling the reader"
Anyway, on a completely unrelated note: have the people trying to understand Anna's explanations tried involving translation specialists like were met in the club? Because ultimately it seems to come down to Anna not knowing any of the formal words and thus having had to invent her own language for conceptualizing impeller manipulation. With the additional confusing factors of thus having it made entirely out of misused loan words from a child's vocabulary, and also being a purely mental tool Anna never needed to verbalize and formalize
Valarauko
Demon of Power
- Location
- Angband
@Avalanche: I just want to say (with a hat tip to @UberJJK for touching on this before I could get to it) that this:
Is an absolutely excellent piece of characterization and really adds depth and verisimilitude to Koujirou and Setsuna. It's a really quick exchange, but it's very nearly my favorite moment in the entire update.
Whiskey Golf
Being of Editing & Technical Assistance
- Location
- Chained to my desk
Also @Avalanche I like how you chargen subtly with Instructor Leonhart. Going to the underwater ruin that was her old apartment with her family, literally carrying a copy of her home in her impeller...
Somehow I have a feeling she's not the only Valkyrie carrying baggage.
Also srsly Sandra's family is filthy rich wtf
Somehow I have a feeling she's not the only Valkyrie carrying baggage.
Also srsly Sandra's family is filthy rich wtf
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I also like how their responses contrast with Anna's.
It's not just a subtle difference in their histories**, it's a real sign of how much thought and work goes into the characters.
**Koujirou and Setsuna grew up being very aware they were have-nots.
Anna, in contrast, likely spent a lot of time on starvation rationing, but was probably still one of her community's better off.
There was never any (material) luxeries for Anna to be jealous of.
Setsuna and Koujirou still remember those feelings of jealousy.
- Location
- Plato's Cave
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
-[X]You can help.
--[X]Stay close to/spend time with
-[X]You can help.
--[X]Stay close to/spend time with
- Location
- PA
Personally, my thought was baggage on Anna's end- She remembers Refugees coming to Town, and then they made everything worse. More mouths to feed, more resources required to maintain the town, and Anna herself mentioned that whole 'Can't trust people' mindset she had once and REALLY does not want to come back to. I suspect Refugees would do it- positive time-line Anna's Town isn't overwhelmed by outsiders who grow jealous and end up pushing Anna to sounding the Ragnarok horn...And being the only survivor.
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
-[X]You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
-[X]You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
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You seem to be responding to a different section of the text.
Anna was upset at ever being labled a refugee, but I would say that's because, in her experience, refugees get lynched.
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SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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This, basically. Anna's combat capabilities are immense, but they are hardly unique--the Wave Force can be (and has been!) taught to other high-level Aces. The UN is clearly gaining aces at an appreciable rate, even if its number of 300 frames remains the same. However, Anna's ability to A) refine the Wave Force technique and how effectively/efficiently it can be taught is a much bigger game-changer in the war against Type Zeroes than she herself is, B) make breakthroughs in the reverse-engineering of her HPPs would give the UN a way to mass produce a revolutionary new weapons system for all Valks that would make all Valks more effective in combat (against normal AGs and Type-Zeroes both) and thus boost Valk survival rates--plus, the potential for massively-scaled up versions to be employed on Valkyrie Battleships in space, and C) her sheer capabilities as a builder offer unique opportunities to improve the UN's logistical, industrial, and strategic position in ways that other Aces just can't compete with.
And as long as she's kept out of significant combat and her true capabilities kept secret, she can serve as a secret trump card against the AGs in case of emergency. The AGs trying to do to Perth what they did to Sydney would probably fail at the point where Anna hits all four of them at once with a Wave Force attack, causing all four Type Zeroes to nope the fuck out of there in sheer panic, because now their Impellers are all completely gone and it all might be a big trap for them for all they know.
T0PH4T
[Verified Accessory]
- Location
- United States of America
[X] Engage. STRATNET's assessment appears correct, however the possibility of a the Antagonists counterattacking your position with long range teleports is remote, and easily intercepted by your Interdiction unless the Antagonists use an exorbitant volume of Higgs. The risk you and your squadron will bear is minimal compared to the potential lives saved by your attacks at the Antagonist formations. Revealing your ability to attack at extreme ranges through obstructions to the Antagonists is not consequential in the short term.
-[X]You can help.
--[X] Offer Yukari some food. You're not sure what yet, but a quick trawl through her profile will fix that.
--[X] Don't bring up the problem. People seem to not like that very much.
The reason I'm voting for not doing the sane thing here is because this is a story, not an actual battlefield.
Earlier, some one mentioned that this feels like an Anime moment. I concur, and more to the point, think that there's evidence within the text to suggest that we're supposed to disobey orders here. There's a lot of "you don't have to obey orders, Anna" being thrown around by the instructors, and while all the arguments about her utility as a builder/trump card are valid...
I think we need to remember the thesis of this story.
Anna wants to be a better person. Being a very good hammer is better than being a good weapon, but it's not self-actualization. In a story about people learning to be better people, then obeying orders and getting punished for it is an ironic lesson, while disobeying orders and getting rewarded is a triumph of the individual. The narrative momentum of the story (plus OP's literal declaration of importance) seem to indicate we need to put aside what would make sense in the "real" world and instead ask what sense a story-logic makes.
I think it's inevitable that we see a hidden danger here. I think there's also a non-zero chance that there could be someone messing with TACNET, trying to make Sandra look bad, though that's less of a factor. Instead, let it be enough that this feels like season-finale levels of dramatic, and while it's very possible this would bite us in the ass I think we should err on the side of being paranoid.
-[X]You can help.
--[X] Offer Yukari some food. You're not sure what yet, but a quick trawl through her profile will fix that.
--[X] Don't bring up the problem. People seem to not like that very much.
The reason I'm voting for not doing the sane thing here is because this is a story, not an actual battlefield.
Earlier, some one mentioned that this feels like an Anime moment. I concur, and more to the point, think that there's evidence within the text to suggest that we're supposed to disobey orders here. There's a lot of "you don't have to obey orders, Anna" being thrown around by the instructors, and while all the arguments about her utility as a builder/trump card are valid...
I think we need to remember the thesis of this story.
Anna wants to be a better person. Being a very good hammer is better than being a good weapon, but it's not self-actualization. In a story about people learning to be better people, then obeying orders and getting punished for it is an ironic lesson, while disobeying orders and getting rewarded is a triumph of the individual. The narrative momentum of the story (plus OP's literal declaration of importance) seem to indicate we need to put aside what would make sense in the "real" world and instead ask what sense a story-logic makes.
I think it's inevitable that we see a hidden danger here. I think there's also a non-zero chance that there could be someone messing with TACNET, trying to make Sandra look bad, though that's less of a factor. Instead, let it be enough that this feels like season-finale levels of dramatic, and while it's very possible this would bite us in the ass I think we should err on the side of being paranoid.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Valkyrie skill #342: You can carry all the baggage. Literally.
Not just "might", there are 44 high level aces, plus at least one ace student per class. By my napkin math at her listed 2 1 0.5 rate is closest to 24 12 6 for a total of 42, plus the 2 reserve for 44. With potentially 36 classes in training and each having at least one ace student that's 80 aces per academy, or 240 aces between the three academies. There are just over 600 aces total, and 315 of them are actively using a 300 frame, so these three academies comprise basically the entirety of the UN's top level valkyrie reserve.
Attacking into Anna's super move with four entire Type Zero suppression squadrons sitting waiting to pounce is total suicide.
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NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
- Location
- the Philippines
I remember there being some speculation of UN wanting to extend the war so it doesn't have to deal with what happens after or something. Maybe that's what the sabotage is about, prolonging the conflict?
- Location
- Somewhere.
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
-[X] Though you do want to keep an eye on things while you're holding.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
-[X] Though you do want to keep an eye on things while you're holding.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
Alphaleph
The Firstiest of First
Anna is unique in the limit of what she could do. Everything she could do as a Valk, another Valk can do, just worse.
samdamandias
Apprentice Plane Wizard
I need to find that omake where Durga is hitting on other cores
Enough of one, apparently. Humans are winning.
Slowly. Painfully. But winning nonetheless.
Does she have an entire house in there?
Assume the average human has a density of approximately one g/cm^3, aka water. Aluminum has a density of 2.7, copper 8.95, iron 7.87, silver 10.49, palladium 12.02, technetium 11.5, and uranium a whopping 19.05 g/cm^3.
Anna is still less dense than Koujirou.
lewdbutIapprove.jpg
This hand of mine is glowing red! Its loud roar tells me to grasp victory! ERRUUPTING! SHINING! THUUUUUUMB!
The solution is clearly impeller hugs.
The juggling a dozen eggs is really impressive. Professional jugglers can maybe manage eight, IIRC fourteen is about the limit.
Translating from tsundere...
Translation: "I very much care that you are spending time with a woman who is not myself, but admitting to jealously means I also have to confront the possibility that I am romantically interested in you. Baka."
Anna just looked up roughly all the dick pics on the internet at once, didn't she?
Shounen protagonist bullshit confirmed.
Is this a Stand?
ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
Canada, actually. Probably from near Castlegar. Aaaaand now I have the Wendigo song stuck in my head.
IIRC it was decided that Anna and Durga would use the same VA, doing the same voice, in the Project Valkyrie anime.
And most interesting that Coke Zero experiences something during teleport. That's a chekov's gun right there.
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- Location
- Canada
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
-[X] Though you do want to keep an eye on things while you're holding.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
-[X] Though you do want to keep an eye on things while you're holding.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
- Location
- Midwest
[X] Engage. STRATNET's assessment appears correct, however the possibility of a the Antagonists counterattacking your position with long range teleports is remote, and easily intercepted by your Interdiction unless the Antagonists use an exorbitant volume of Higgs. The risk you and your squadron will bear is minimal compared to the potential lives saved by your attacks at the Antagonist formations. Revealing your ability to attack at extreme ranges through obstructions to the Antagonists is not consequential in the short term.
- Location
- Yes
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help decorate your room. You don't mind it like it is, but you think it could be better?
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
I see a lot of people voting for Yukari helping decorate Anna's room despite that being on the list of things that we already voted for and just haven't happened yet.
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
-[X] Though you do want to keep an eye on things while you're holding.... Both at the frontline and back at Sydney.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
I still maintain Bold Anna is just Angry Anna. That's either Anna's superego or possibly Durga responding to it.
I think our training with Koujiro has probably raised audience awareness more than anything we'll do here, away from the majority of the cast and main setting. And right now a lot of people are probably worrying about Anna's mental state and ability to play well with others. Let's not start out being insubordinate for no good reason the first time we take orders from Stratnet anywhere near active combat. That's more likely to have people attempting to curtail rather than increase our freedoms.
[X] Wait. STRATNET's assessment appears correct. You will hold, unless something goes seriously awry. You should do your best to not place your squadron in danger, the drones are quickly replaceable and expendable. Keeping your ability, or that of your Heavy Particle Projectors to make such long range attacks through terrain secret will be strategically significant in the medium term future.
-[X] Though you do want to keep an eye on things while you're holding.... Both at the frontline and back at Sydney.
-[X] You can help.
--[X] Ask Yukari if she can help you learn how to teach.
--[X] Bother Koujirou and ask if Yukari behaved differently before Alaska. More data may allow you to improve your approach.
--[X] If all else fails, prod Sandra.
- Location
- Somewhere.
*pinnacle
Yeah, I think it's more a vote for recontextualizing why we're doing that. Specifically with an aim of helping Yukari vs. just in general doing the thing.