And that shit is why I dislike Gundam. Pretty much everyone is committing Warcrimes except the reasonable underdog, who winds up paying for the hubris of thinking they could get away with not committing crimes against humanity.

EDIT: Except Turn A and G Gundam. The Warcrimes were the exceptions in those, and they paid for it dearly.
 
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Anna covered in facehuggers trying to get through her impeller is kinda funny image.
I mean, yes, but I also can't think of a reason that'd she just not zap the facehuggers with her lasers, or corrode them or something right away.
They'd have less economic shortages if they stopped spending everything on giant robots.
If you say it loud enough, maybe the characters inside the series will hear you.
Here, borrow my megaphone.
Too bad those giant robots are just made of metal foams inside and are cheaper than tanks.
A GM or other mass-production MS might be that cheap, but even something used by a secondary cast member who survives is going to be more expensive.
And don't forget about the cost of R&Ding those super robots into existence.

Final point on mecha causing economic shortages: opportunity cost, and the compounding effect of reduced infrastructure.
Dwight David Eisenhower said:
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. […] Is there no other way the world may live?
 
Final point on mecha causing economic shortages: opportunity cost, and the compounding effect of reduced infrastructure.
I really like that quote. Haven't seen it used by anyone in a long while.
Especially the sarcasm looming behind them, when you stop to consider that the whole debacle managed to prop the US economy back on its feet, and served to employ people who had, up till then, been completely unemployed and reliant on charity.
Not to mention that the people happily agreed to wartime taxes ,bought bonds and accepted shortages, all for the sake of "victory".
Kinda like the situation on Gundam Earth.

Makes one wonder how this looks on BAHH. Whether people really care about the AG's in regions that never saw them (other than the whole atmosphere fiasco), and if they are willing to make sacrifices of any kind towards an overall victory.
Or is it just the UN and AI overlords forcing people to fight and make sacrifices.
 
Whether people really care about the AG's in regions that never saw them (other than the whole atmosphere fiasco), and if they are willing to make sacrifices of any kind towards an overall victory.
I don't think such people exist and if they do they'd be in fairly small numbers. Remember in the instructor's lounge there is a counter since the last Antagonist attack on Perth:
As for the AGs, they haven't set foot, flown over, made an orbital pass and all included for a few years now. We've got a little counter for the next time."

She flicks a finger upwards to the right and you look.

>>1756 Days since last AG attack on Perth

Almost five years.

"Hopefully, it lasts," mutters Vivas, who had sat to your left, her head leaned back against the couch and eyes closed, but from the twitches from her eyes, she was probably connecting to a network with her Valkyrie, "We almost had to reset it during the Great Battle."

Now consider that the closest Hive listed on the map to Perth is the destroyed Minor Hive somewhere near the Caspian Sea and that is around 10,000km away. After that the destroyed Minor Hives in east Turkey (~11,000km) and Chad (~11,500km) are probably the closest.

With roaming ranges that far literally nowhere on Earth is safe. Or at least no where on Earth would have been safe in the earlier days of the war. With the various destroyed Hives and the front lines being pushed back there are safe regions, like Perth, but odds are pretty much everywhere with a notably population has been attacked by the Antagonists at some point during the war.
 
the AG's in regions that never saw them
No such thing.
As Uber above me said.

And there's this:
All this combined to lock in the Alaskan Offensive as the counteraction of the United Nations against the offensive of the Antagonists. Yet, even as the Armed Forces visibly massed throughout Siberia and around the Pacific, the two minor breaches appeared only more desperate to end the conflict, one way or the other.

Edit: There's also Abraxas who roams in orbit and other AG orbital units.
Firstly, securing orbital superiority to prevent AG orbital forces from bombarding human territory,
 
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Makes one wonder how this looks on BAHH. Whether people really care about the AG's in regions that never saw them (other than the whole atmosphere fiasco), and if they are willing to make sacrifices of any kind towards an overall victory.
Or is it just the UN and AI overlords forcing people to fight and make sacrifices.
Nope, in worse versions of this setting, from -3 on, the UN would be lying about the idea that humanity isn't on an general days to total human death. The UN for the most part is better then most (If not all) total human unified governments in fiction.
 
Hmm, could Anna make a Gundam or MS shell for Durga?
butwhytho.jpg

Seriously, Anna is already faster and packs more firepower than most MSs already. There isn't going to be a benefit to adding in that much mass, and it'll just slow her down and make her use more impeller for defense and mobility.

And she won't want Minovsky particles, since those would interfere with her lasers.
 
But it would invite glorious, hand to hand, face to face, melee combat. So she can become a true champion of the battlefield.
If we want Anna to face that, we may as well throw her into Warhammer 40k. I'm sure her incandescent Fury won't rival Rincewind wielding the Chicken Knife, right? Wait, the galaxy has just been dismembered...
 
But it would invite glorious, hand to hand, face to face, melee combat. So she can become a true champion of the battlefield.

Pfft. Glory? Melee? What is this, knights jousting in the skies?

Anna, what do you think of something like that?

"While the Adversary is attempting to lure a Valkyrie or command unit into open conflict, the most expedient measure would be to use the long-range quadruple-link Heavy Particle Cannon to render its body into monatomic vapour. After all, if it wants to be a target, it can be treated as one."
 
But it would invite glorious, hand to hand, face to face, melee combat. So she can become a true champion of the battlefield.
uhmm
"When you say that you would be able to keep your distance from Anna, do you mean she would hold an advantage even at close quarters?"

"Yes. Her Impeller control is lethal to close against.
When the CQC expert of the group states that fighting Anna at close range is suicide I would ask you who would survive getting into melee range with her?
 
If the point of the conflict in question is to subjugate someone, and not kill him, but also ensure that he does not become a problem in the future, then defeating him on more or less equal footing would be the go to solution.
It would certainly fit Anna more to resolve it without a pointless death, even if it requires her to engage in, from her point of view, pointless sword waving.

It would also serve as a good way to expand on peoples personalities and character building. Even if BAHH Anna lacks such a personality right now, the realization through failure (repeated hostilities for similar reasons) of a dimensionaly displaced Anna, could serve as a catalyst to pick up a blade a smack faces.
 
If the point of the conflict in question is to subjugate someone, and not kill him, but also ensure that he does not become a problem in the future, then defeating him on more or less equal footing would be the go to solution.
Righttt.
I disagree. You crush someone completely and then build them back up, that does not at any point require for you to lower yourself to their level.
 
Righttt.
I disagree. You crush someone completely and then build them back up, that does not at any point require for you to lower yourself to their level.
Its the kind of mentality that results in most stories in a (comical for viewers) situations where the "silly knights" go a N'th time to slay the "evil wizard", only to get their clothes and armor blown off by a gust of wind.
Comical and good.
Except they always come back. Or if finitely killed, are replaced by a new group.
Because nobody learns better as the scope of abilities against them, makes them disregard the danger of a confrontation and pursue it.
 
But it would invite glorious, hand to hand, face to face, melee combat. So she can become a true champion of the battlefield.
Just remember melee combat has different meanings for a Valkyrie. Anna's melee Halbard has a range of ~100m after all and she is actually quite good with it:
Melee Halberd: Plasma Lance
Precision: 78/200
Speed: 200 (Mastered)
Efficiency: 136/200

Basically; Anna is a murder-blender regardless of which range you engage her at.
 
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