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Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)

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HidCyan said:
All Type Zeros, by definition, possess Higgs Generators and therefore have limitless energy. This was stated to be the main reason they're so hard to destroy, because it allows them to "Higgs Boost" indefinitely.

"Never running out of energy or ammunition" is part of what defines a Type Zero.

With the sole exception of it's mortar, Sekhmet was completely fresh.
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*groans at additional correction*

Y'know what, just-just scratch out the first paragraph of that post. In fact, ignore that post entirely. It never happened.
 
Why is it that people just can't understand that other then being unable to use his I'm gonna sit here for a minute so I can charge up my fuck huge laser so I can annihilate your army attack Sekmet was at 100%? we've probably talked about this over 50 times now by now. :facepalm:
 
Kaizuki said:
It leans away from Vae and Mors. Both of those were hugely evocative things designed to awe and shock, whether by showing Anna driven to the depths of despair in a quest for revenge, or... Well, let's be honest, Mors was basically killing OCs in as brutal and traumatic a manner as possible. Acie is largely fight-centric. Compare senpai's Post #15 to... Um... I dunno if there's a post I can substitute for Vae to complete the metaphor. But my point stands.



Eh... I didn't actually mean for the cannon to be a serious exotic armament. WoG on that is it was coating steel in whateverthefuck the orb thing had and then shooting it.

@Aranfan, salty: I've had a looong time to think about this, and I disagree. For one thing, if you look real close, she actually murdered the thing in I think maybe a minute's worth of combat, plus/minus some. For another thing, during the fight against Sekhmet she had time to munch on types for resupply. That CAN'T be instantaneous. It just can't. Moreover, what I've come up with suggests more than a few wave forces against Sekhmet. That raises the question of "is it because wave is underpowered or because Type Zero are stupid fucking tanky?" And there's only one answer to that. So here's my big question:

What kind of timeframe did Sekhmet take? And how does this compare to what we saw here?

The answer I came up with to that was "comparatively, Sekhmet took fucking forever." Whether that's true or not is Senpai's prerogative, I'm stuck with mah guesswork. However, based on that conclusion, I guesstimated that with the level of detail I was writing at, a Sekhmet fight would have lasted several-ten-thousand words without a timeskip or glossing-over.

... Guesswork Which included staring at 5 fucking lines of Yukari in Post 15 looking for any clue of wtf played out for her in Alaska, because that's ALL WE'VE GOT. *grumbles* and it's cryptic as hell too.

I did actually explain why she didn't immediately go back to pounding, in-story. I was very careful to do that. Whether you believe my explanation is up to you.

Beyond all that, let's please keep in mind that, given a 300 core, the UN had all of twenty girls who could take a class D. I am 100% certain a 300 core has weapons systems that outpower Anna's. How much? Idk. "Take" does NOT mean "eat for breakfast."

So tldr: IMO y'all are overstating how hard the fight was (notice that it didn't actually hurt her except when she fucking LET IT, lol, bar the part where she got overconfident and almost bit it) and underestimating Zeroes.

Amirite? Idk.
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If the Sekhmet fight took forever, there's no reason why Sekhmet wouldn't just run the fuck away after surviving the first Wave Force hit. Standard Type-Zero protocol when faced with superior (or unknown) force is to run the fuck away immediately. If Anna had time to hit it with Wave Force, wait for her impeller to recharge, hit it with Wave Force again, wait for her impeller to recharge, hit it with Wave Force again...yeah, it just doesn't add up. Wave Force drains your entire impeller field just to use. Either Sekhmet was fucking wrecked (or just crippled to the point where conventional attacks were easily capable of finishing it off and its remaining offensive capabilities were not very threatening) by the first Wave Force hit, or it was intact enough to wreck a now-wide-open Anna. Or run the fuck away.

Anna was hardly wrecking the Class-D--if anything, it was clearly outmatching her, forcing her to gambit her way into making an opening for a Wave Force attack.

As for its exotic weapon--look, it had the cannons, which were exotic weapons (that goes without saying; they were completely unblockable and extremely lethal, as well as fast enough that dodging them completely was pretty much impossible for Anna). Then it had the tail lasers, which were so powerful, versatile, and fast-cycling that it frankly counts as an exotic weapon in itself (I doubt a 300 frame could have tanked even a single shot of that, making it a hitscan "ur ded" weapon that recharges quite quickly). And then it has a self-destruct exotic weapon that can be deployed despite severe damage? That Anna couldn't even detect beforehand, despite looking for shit like that?

Frankly, it was the fact that Anna would have actually died to a Class-D despite getting off a perfect Wave Force attack on it, despite being prepared for fighting a Type Zero this time and going about this whole fight methodically and cautiously, despite having a nuclear fusion reactor for nigh-infinite power and a readily-usable source for massive thrust/maneuvering, even though she had defeated a Class-C without having any clue as to the nature, capabilities, or behavior of Type Zeroes before she literally ran into one?

Anna outfought and out-thought it, and yet, this Class-D could still just go "lol fuck you" in the end, with no warning. There's the question of why you'd need to even use a follow-up Wave Force attack when it was already so badly damaged, too.
 
I don't think Sekhmet took more than one Wave Force shot. At current levels it drains all Impeller/Higgs and damages the user. Going by what Sekhmet was capable of an Anna without Impeller would have lasted as long as a snowflake in a blast furnace if it wasn't crippled. On the other hand there were pieces to pick up, so I don't think the Wave Force can instantly wipe out a Type-Zero. Basically I think Sekhmet started toying with Anna right before Wave Force, and was then coup-de-gras'd on its first bounce on the ground.

So a burst-DPS type is still a huge problem. And the Wave Force can't be relied upon because you never know when a Type-Zero's bullshit will give them resistance. Anna really needed Last Word backing her up there.
 
I always thought that Sekhmet was defeated after Anna tried to use her 'normal' weapons on it first. Then finally after losing 5 out of the 10 HPPs, her other systems such as the dynamos and the batteries, and probably a large portion of her stored energy, she resorted to using the experimental technique at point-blank range. I don't think she would've wanted to empty her Impellar field and available Higgs unless she had no choice after all.
 
Kaizuki said:
The force distribution for a C is 4 or 5:1 (citation?) 20:1 B 40:1 A (again citation? I don't have thosr values memorized).
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Class A and B force disparity mentioned in update 9, for C and beyond is answered after I asked, which I quoted a few post above.
HidCyan said:
This was stated to be the main reason they're so hard to destroy, because it allows them to "Higgs Boost" indefinitely.
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Yup, if they can't win, they run.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
despite having a nuclear fusion reactor for nigh-infinite power and a readily-usable source for massive thrust/maneuvering
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Not to discount anything else in your post, but I have a problem with this paragraph, and this part in particular. You're discounting the fact that she also has to use weapons that she hasn't had any experience using, has less than half of her most useful weapons, and has a less strong impeller than before.

Also, having an enemy pull something unexpected happens in battle. It's natural; people are different from other people, and thus, other people have different things that they prepare more for.

For instance, imagine two gunners, with bayonettes. One of them is more skilled, more strong, more intelligent, and has better equipment than the other. However, the less strong, less intelligent, less skilled one, and less well-equiped one has spent it's spare time thinking of one specific situation. It may not be a very likely situation, but it is one that it thinks about, so naturally, it prepares something in case of that situation.

If that situation happens to come up, the person that prepared for it is more likely to have something that can easily deal with it, and thus, they have an advantage in that situation.

That's what happened here. The T0 had prepared more for the situation that Anna had put it in than Anna had, and she didn't expect that, and so she committed to her position more than she should have, which was a mistake, but an understandable mistake.
 
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SaltyWaffles said:
If the Sekhmet fight took forever, there's no reason why Sekhmet wouldn't just run the fuck away after surviving the first Wave Force hit. Standard Type-Zero protocol when faced with superior (or unknown) force is to run the fuck away immediately. If Anna had time to hit it with Wave Force, wait for her impeller to recharge, hit it with Wave Force again, wait for her impeller to recharge, hit it with Wave Force again...yeah, it just doesn't add up. Wave Force drains your entire impeller field just to use. Either Sekhmet was fucking wrecked (or just crippled to the point where conventional attacks were easily capable of finishing it off and its remaining offensive capabilities were not very threatening) by the first Wave Force hit, or it was intact enough to wreck a now-wide-open Anna. Or run the fuck away.

Anna was hardly wrecking the Class-D--if anything, it was clearly outmatching her, forcing her to gambit her way into making an opening for a Wave Force attack.

As for its exotic weapon--look, it had the cannons, which were exotic weapons (that goes without saying; they were completely unblockable and extremely lethal, as well as fast enough that dodging them completely was pretty much impossible for Anna). Then it had the tail lasers, which were so powerful, versatile, and fast-cycling that it frankly counts as an exotic weapon in itself (I doubt a 300 frame could have tanked even a single shot of that, making it a hitscan "ur ded" weapon that recharges quite quickly). And then it has a self-destruct exotic weapon that can be deployed despite severe damage? That Anna couldn't even detect beforehand, despite looking for shit like that?

Frankly, it was the fact that Anna would have actually died to a Class-D despite getting off a perfect Wave Force attack on it, despite being prepared for fighting a Type Zero this time and going about this whole fight methodically and cautiously, despite having a nuclear fusion reactor for nigh-infinite power and a readily-usable source for massive thrust/maneuvering, even though she had defeated a Class-C without having any clue as to the nature, capabilities, or behavior of Type Zeroes before she literally ran into one?

Anna outfought and out-thought it, and yet, this Class-D could still just go "lol fuck you" in the end, with no warning. There's the question of why you'd need to even use a follow-up Wave Force attack when it was already so badly damaged, too.
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She thought she knew what it was capable of, and hitting it with another wave was going to be a lot faster than ripping it apart piece by piece w/ HPPs. She'd never seen an AG do anything like what it did -- it literally pulled its fucking body apart and had another weapon inside. She did not out-think it in the end, unless you call getting overconfident ("the models had converged! She needed to hurry! They needed her down below!) out-thinking.

If you're really upset about it, some indications exist that this Type-Zero was a walking trap. It didn't disengage, even after it was heavily wounded. Why the fuck not? Because trap. Because it wanted her to do what she did.

Also, Type-Zeroes have really powerful normal weapons, btw. Or did you not notice that Sekhmet nearly murdered us with such? Sekhmet was able to do much more to Anna than this guy was, both using pretty much just normal weaponry. So, don't go calling the lasers or railguns exotic, because... They're not.

I could go back and re-label it as "D+-Class" if you'd like. Or I could call it a C-class, except like as not a C-class with functional exotics that wasn't Sekhmet would have fucking mulched her. I could write a reasonable 1v1 between Anna and a C-class, and I could have her win, in a very, very close fight. But it wouldn't be free, and, frankly, I'm just a little bit emotionally attached to our HPPs. I can understand why you're discomfitted by the scenario, I admit, but let's all keep in mind that Anna is not infallible nor invincible in combat.

And I don't think anyone here actually wants me to go make changes Acie, anyway. Not really. Here's what I think: I think y'all want to leave me to stew for a month or so while I figure out whether I can run the same model for school that I did last quarter without writing stuff.

Because if I can't, well, I'm gonna be on here to write BAHHSCQ omake... But I'm all out of ideas. *sucks in breath* and that would leave me with exactly one option; one single option that would conveniently be suitable for maintaining long-term writing activity. One single option that I think I'm much more capable of writing now than I was when I started it... One single Quest. No idea if this will pan out or not. Entirely dependent on factors out of my control. But... If it does pan out... Then this time, it won't just stop.
 
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Kaizuki said:
Because if I can't, well, I'm gonna be on here to write BAHHSCQ omake... But I'm all out of ideas. *sucks in breath* and that would leave me with exactly one option; one single option that would conveniently be suitable for maintaining long-term writing activity. One single option that I think I'm much more capable of writing now than I was when I started it... One single Quest. No idea if this will pan out or not. Entirely dependent on factors out of my control. But... If it does pan out... Then this time, it won't just stop.
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Your overdramatic is showing, Kaizuki.:VOr rather, it isn't.
 
I do agree that it seemed on rails near the end to get to your desired end for the two characters, but it was a pretty cute story, all told, and an interesting variation. The fight scenes were pretty good with a clear difference in tone / perspective between the two protagonists although I hadn't realized or thought that Anna would have so much trouble with Type 2s. I do think that Anna is a bit too emotional, as opposed to determined, at times in the story, but it's not too much of a distraction.

I did find it funny that Anna kept filtering out the TACNET / STRATNET and other battle chatter among the UN forces and that she just kept running off on her own. I imagine there was one very frustrated comm officer just yelling after Anna in an attempt to get a hold of her though the entire battle.
 
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Familiar - BEACH EPISODE, Fan contribution combo!
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    • FAMILIAR PARTY CRASH!

    FAN SUBMISSION COMBO!

    Pinklestia said:
    Eh, anyone willing to write a beach episode Omake?
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    Beach episode?

    Did someone say... beach episode?


    *pretend there's a pencil gripped tightly in his clenched fist

    BEACH EPISODE!



    BEACH EPISODE!


    I'll never get tired of drawing Sandra's hair.

    BEACH EPISODE!​

    Hooray for extremely delayed reactions!

    In all seriousness though, these have been completed for like a week now. I just kept on forgetting to post them because I took a page from Kaizuki's book and decided to write my biggest omake yet for Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest. ... I'm still not done with that, so I will now proceed to fade back into obscurity, only to reappear upon its completion.

    Anybody else going to add to the fan submission combo?
     
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    • Nice omake, enjoyed it quite a bit. The effort put into editing it and making it a cohesive whole instead of just a quick scene like most really shows. Just one nitpick, though...

    Kaizuki said:
    Official: Acie Invictia will be ready for beta before Tuesday, March 8th, 6:00 PM Central or I will eat my own right foot. There is no fucking reason for me to not be able to meet that deadline. I will meet it.
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    Kaizuki said:
    The right arm's gun fires. Although her impeller is preoccupied, the early stages of the wave force deflect it slightly, away from its path towards her center of mass. It connects with her left foot, ripping off half her leg and forcing her to flare her thrusters to cancel the momentum it transfers to her.
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    While I understand that you get very into the heads of your characters while writing, and that is a very useful tool for empathizing with and therefore accurately writing characters, I feel compelled to inform you that feeding Anna's left foot to an Antagonist weapons blast is in no way eating your own right foot and should not be confused with such.

    Seriously, while reading I was wondering if you added blowing off Anna's foot to the omake after you missed your deadline as a way of keeping your vow by proxy. Very disconcerting.
     
    Familiar said:
    FAMILIAR PARTY CRASH!

    FAN SUBMISSION COMBO!


    Beach episode?

    Did someone say... beach episode?


    *pretend there's a pencil gripped tightly in his clenched fist

    BEACH EPISODE!



    BEACH EPISODE!


    I'll never get tired of drawing Sandra's hair.

    BEACH EPISODE!​

    Hooray for extremely delayed reactions!

    In all seriousness though, these have been completed for like a week now. I just kept on forgetting to post them because I took a page from Kaizuki's book and decided to write my biggest omake yet for Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest. ... I'm still not done with that, so I will now proceed to fade back into obscurity, only to reappear upon its completion.

    Anybody else going to add to the fan submission combo?
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    Familiar-san is best -san!

    Katreus said:
    I do agree that it seemed on rails near the end to get to your desired end for the two characters, but it was a pretty cute story, all told, and an interesting variation. The fight scenes were pretty good with a clear difference in tone / perspective between the two protagonists although I hadn't realized or thought that Anna would have so much trouble with Type 2s. I do think that Anna is a bit too emotional, as opposed to determined, at times in the story, but it's not too much of a distraction.

    I did find it funny that Anna kept filtering out the TACNET / STRATNET and other battle chatter among the UN forces and that she just kept running off on her own. I imagine there was one very frustrated comm officer just yelling after Anna in an attempt to get a hold of her though the entire battle.
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    Rails... Yeah. I'd agree with that. It was worth it. Pretty sure that was the first hug Anna's gotten, omake or otherwise.

    The comms... Hehe. Yes :)

    DarkLight140 said:
    Nice omake, enjoyed it quite a bit. The effort put into editing it and making it a cohesive whole instead of just a quick scene like most really shows. Just one nitpick, though...


    While I understand that you get very into the heads of your characters while writing, and that is a very useful tool for empathizing with and therefore accurately writing characters, I feel compelled to inform you that feeding Anna's left foot to an Antagonist weapons blast is in no way eating your own right foot and should not be confused with such.

    Seriously, while reading I was wondering if you added blowing off Anna's foot to the omake after you missed your deadline as a way of keeping your vow by proxy. Very disconcerting.
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    Mou... That was a beta deadline, not a post deadline, and I will have you know that I MET IT! So there! Friggin Alphaleph and his clocks :mad:

    But, uh... No. That wasn't my intention D:
     
    That was nice @Kaizuki, little rushed in the pacing at places, but nice. Heads will roll in the UN for allowing the AGs to tollol around in 'safe' territory like that.

    And Ayy beach episode @Familiar. It was such a nice beach, pity about the craters that will result from the volleyball game :V
     
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