I don't know, being nigh-unkillable and self-replicating seems like a weapon itself. Quantity has its own Quality, and in this case it's a discount Grey Goo scenario, only with more lasers.
@Avalanche said 100 1MW lasers won't do a thing to Anna while 1 100MW could.

There's also
Secondly, it takes ages to restore all the destroyed bits, months minimum for a Type and maybe years for weaker AG types.

Besides, discount Grey Goo is Anna. :V

....
New goal: Have Anna eat T0's Core and see what happens.
 
I think this is the only quest where I can see a 1600 word post by the OP and not be sure if it's an update or not, since it seems kind of short.
 
@Avalanche said 100 1MW lasers won't do a thing to Anna while 1 100MW could.

There's also


Besides, discount Grey Goo is Anna. :V

....
New goal: Have Anna eat T0's Core and see what happens.
It'd be a Type-Zero. It come with top-tier weaponry, just not the extra-special "FUCK YOU!!" extras.

And you'll note that its months for Types, and years for the weaker ones. Do you really think that a Type-Zero specialized in such a thing wouldn't be significantly faster? :V
 
It'd be a Type-Zero. It come with top-tier weaponry, just
That's what I said. :V
I think that probably falls under "do we cram more weapons in it or more failsafe?"

And you'll note that its months for Types, and years for the weaker ones. Do you really think that a Type-Zero specialized in such a thing wouldn't be significantly faster? :V
I still don't think it would help that much. :V
Because WoA is Higgs reactor can't be regen'd and that would definitely be the first thing they'd looted once it go down. :V
If they do come up with it, then it'll be for something very specialized that they eon't deploy to the front like an orbit launch denial or the human form AG. :V
 
That's what I said. :V



I still don't think it would help that much. :V
Because WoA is Higgs reactor can't be regen'd and that would definitely be the first thing they'd looted once it go down. :V
If they do come up with it, then it'll be for something very specialized that they eon't deploy to the front like an orbit launch denial or the human form AG. :V
It's a Type-Zero specializing in regeneration. Of course it'd have the ability to regenerate Higgs Reactors. Booby-trapped ones at that. :V
 
It's a Type-Zero specializing in regeneration. Of course it'd have the ability to regenerate Higgs Reactors. Booby-trapped ones at that. :V
High Level Antagonists need their central systems intact to regenerate and certain systems, such as Higgs reactors or generators in Types, are too complex to ever regenerate regardless (Valkyries in the background grumble at the exception to their seemingly magical restoration abilities).
:V
I mean, we can't let Anna's shtick be taken before she can pull it off onscreen. :V

Though having a 'fake' T0 with entirely fake Higgs Reactor meant to sabotage whatever it would be planted on might be possible. :V
 
Something I slammed together after the discussions about infantry in this thread for the anniversary. (It's still 4th March somewhere in world so it counts :V)

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Bonus Interlude:
>[]Flesh and Faith
>>[]On the ground


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>>Accessing combat video log

18:22:09 (GMT), 1st November 57 Post Impact (2069CE)
UN North East Theatre Area A
UN NE, AA, 2nd Army, 1st Div, 4th Infantry Brigade, 1st Battalion, SPC Timothy Wong


>>[Camera resolves into video from a low angle view. Helmet is likely resting on ground. Air is hazy, likely ash and snow.]

Male 1: "Man, I like, can't wait for warm food." >[Identified; SPC James Ng]<

Man 2: "Hell yeah, the sarge is cooking up a storm!" >[Identified; SPC Eugene White]<

Woman 1: "Look at that spread, we've got burnt ration bars, boiled ration bars, wet ration bars, annnnd plain ration bars!" >[Identified; SPC Denise Yeung]<

Woman 2: "You babies complain about the food one more time and back at base you'll be sleeping in your armour… on the armour racks." >[Identified; MAJ Eleanor Han]<

Man 3: "Ah c'mon sarge, why the hell can't we eat back at one of the fobs?" >[Identified; SPC Warren Smith]<

MAJ Han: "Just 'cause we have proper overhead presence doesn't mean that we're clear. We're going to stay away from the camp for a while."

SPC Smith: "I'll bet you my new long rifle that nothing happens in the next-"

>>[TACNET Alert: Incoming orbital debris: all units, seek cover.]

>>[Camera angle changes, helmet registers connection with powered armour. SPC Wong has put his helmet on. Camera angle shifts to reveal the other 5 members of the 1st Infantry Battalion inside a deep crater surrounding cooking pot full of unidentified substance. Unidentified substance tentatively classified as food. Crater likely created by orbital artillery or high penetration bomb]


MAJ Han: "So about that brand new Four Thousand XL you have waiting for you back at base-"

SPC Smith: "DIDN'T FINISH MY SENTENCE, SERGEANT! DOESN'T COUNT!"

MAJ Han: "Specialist Smith, don't think that-"

SPC Smith: "WELL LOOK AT THAT, FOOD'S READY!"

SPC Yeung: "Oi, fuck off mate! Get yer own, I called dibs on the wet ration bars!"

SPC Wong: "Should we be moving?"

MAJ Han: "Everyone butto- dunno why I bothered asking. Stay put FNG, we're already in the best cover around. STRATNET projects the debris will miss."

>>[Camera angle changes, revealing falling debris. Identified; UNSF CV-31 Zemarain]

SPC Smith: "Bugger. One of ours this time."

SPC Wong: "Looks pretty bloody close, sarge."

MAJ Han: "Nah, it'll miss. Look at your TACNET display."

SPC Wong: "That debris is coming right at us." >[Observation: SPC Wong's analysis suite cannot currently accurately determine current direction and likely impact point of the orbital debris. SPC Wong's analysis suite has highlighted the 1st Infantry Battalion's location as an "At risk" zone. Only Major Han carries communication equipment capable of resolving STRATNET broadcasts.]<

SPC Smith: "From your point of view yeah, but the computer says they'll miss."

SPC Wong: "But shouldn't we be on the move anyway?"

>>[SPC Wong begins spin up process for thruster engines mounted in his armour]
>>[Explosions in background as debris begins impacting]


MAJ Han: "Right. Pick a direction. How will you know you're not going to die running that way?"

SPC Wong: "I-"

Man 4: "Ey, someone grab the pot before-" >[Identified; SPC Anton Krauss]<

>>[Camera shakes, nearby explosion from large piece of debris. Hissing and banging noises, likely shrapnel impacts on armour]
>>[Shrapnel strikes cooking pot, knocking it over]


SPC Krauss: "God fucking damn it."

>>[Shrapnel ceases]
>>[1 minute passes without movement or speech]


MAJ Han: "Fucking hell, I spent like half a minute cooking that..."

>>[MAJ Han begins scraping spilled rations into her bowl]

SPC Wong: "Wha- you're still gonna eat that sarge?"

MAJ Han: "Yea? The gravel adds texture and s'not like I'll get sick from chewing some rock."

>>[TACNET Alert: Incoming orbital debris: all units, seek cover.]

MAJ Han: "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck it."

SPC Smith: "Going to miss us again, sarge?"

MAJ Han: "Yep. Bit closer this time, though. Everyone hunker with White."

SPC White: "Alright, here's how it goes, Yeung and the sarge to my left and right-"

SPC Yeung: ">[Laughter]< Fuck off, we're in armour you dipstick."

>>[1st Infantry Battalion move to north-east side of crater]

MAJ Han: "Twenty to impact."

>>[Camera angle changes, revealing meteorites. Identified; Antagonist Carrier 4-25]

SPC White: "One of their drone spitters; glad to see the Space Forces doing something other than choke on cock for once."

SPC Smith: "You're just jealous they fly with the Three Hundred all the time."

SPC White: "Damn right I am, I mean, if the wife isn't on deployment up there, I'm busy slogging my way through the AG killbot hellscape."

>>[Explosions in background as debris begins impacting]

SPC White: "I wanted to join the Space Forces to spend more time with the wife, but noooo-!"

SPC Yeung: "Ah god, here we go again."

>>[Explosions in background grow louder]

SPC White: "UN Armed Forces were like, 'Oh Eugene~, you're so damn awesome, why don't you join the infantry?', and bloody idiot I am, I did just that!"

SPC Wong: "I thought you said your wife was proud of yo-"

>>[Explosions in background grows louder. Shrapnel begins flying over the crater. Specialist White swaps to IR tight beam comms, likely because he can no longer shout over the background noise.]

SPC White: "She was, she did the whole jump-into-your-arms-thing-squeeing thing. She was so proud. I could practically hear her thinking, 'Oh hey, you are now, onnnnnnnnne fucking percent as badass as me'."

SPC Krauss: "Every single time we huddle we hear this…"

>>[Camera whites out as main body of AG Carrier impacts nearby.]

SPC White: "Then she ups and leaves for the front again. Bloody hell."

>>[Camera vision is restored.]

MAJ Han: "If you wanted someone to spend a lot of time with off the field, ya shouldn't have married one of the Three Hundred. They're busier than we are."

>>[Rapid drumming noises. Ejecta raining down.]

SPC White: "Mmhm…"

>>[Shrapnel ceases]
>>[32 seconds pass without movement or speech.]

>>[Object drops into cooking pot. Identified; AG Non-combat unit: Oddball]


SPC Wong: "One of their little repair drones?"

MAJ Han: "Looks like."

>>[Major Han grabs and crushes the Oddball in her hand, then drops it back into pot.]

MAJ Han: "STRATNET, are we sure nothing else survived the ride down?"

Female 3: "We're sure, Major. Don't worry, we blasted everything in your area -but you- good with rads." [Identified; SQNLDR Kyrie Castiglioni, Commander; Sturm und Drang Squadron.]

>>[Loud rumble, likely sonic boom from passing Valkyrie Squadron]


MAJ Han: ">[Indecipherable]< Sergeant… Well, good to hear then. Have fun hunting, Valks."

SQNLDR Castiglioni: "Roger, same to you, Infantry. Out."

>>[Specialist Ng begins scooping material from the cooking pot. Components include water, ration bars, gravel, dust and pieces of the Oddball drone.]

SPC Wong: "You're still going to eat it?!"

SPC Ng: "Well, uh… yeah? The Antagonist like, adds texture and I'm like, not going to get sick eating it."

SPC Wong: "Rocks I can believe, but an AG?"

SPC Ng: "Dude, it like, tastes pretty good you know?"

>>[Major Han joins in and brushes some pieces of the Oddball from her armour into her soup]

MAJ Han: "Want some, FNG?"

SPC Wong: "Well, not really- it looks really good though… why does that crap look so good to eat?"

SPC Yeung: "Aww, don't worry kid. It's natural."

SPC Wong: "What? Natural?"

MAJ Han: "You know how eating is one of the primal pleasures? Well the UN fucked something in our heads when they change us. It's only supposed to make us feel better when we're killing AGs, but eating Antagonists sets it off too."

SPC Smith: "So wait, we feel better eating AGs? Does this work with the other primal pleasures? What are they anyway?"

MAJ Han: "The hell you asking me for? Uh, sleeping, companionship, uh, I don't bloody know, sex-?"

SPC White: "Sex?"

SPC Ng: "Yeah dude. Sex. Like, sleeping with. Banging. Watching like, Webflix together. Doing the horizontal-"

SPC White: "I know what sex is you fuckbucket, but what- you mean- the UN made us horny for AGs?"

>>[18 seconds of silence]

SPC Yeung: "Hell no I ain't! Fucking disgusting is what that is."

SPC White: "Ye ever think about it then?"

SPC Yeung: "The hell I do! Sides, the hell would I be sticking up my cooter anyway? They're either gears and cogs, or they're shiny. >["Shiny"; Slang term referring to High Level Antagonists]< If ye ever think that I'm gonna let a shiny that's not in a billion bits get close to me- well, no. Fuck you."

SPC Smith: "Alright, alright, but you ever think about eating a shiny?"

MAJ Han: "How the hell are you going to get pieces of a shiny away from the spooks to eat? Maybe after it's been sterilised by hard rads. Don't want one growing inside me and doing a chestburster."

SPC Wong: "Chestburster?"

SPC Krauss: "Shinies can regenerate. Imagine a piece of one trying to regrow from inside of you, eating you-"

SPC Ng: "Okaaaaay, like enough! Back to the subject of eating- you gonna take the soup, kid?"

SPC Wong: "…Alright, I'll take a bowl."

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Other then the brain stuff which might be a StarshipTroopers reference?

This is probably what future combat looks like. All the fancy gear and Comms in the world. And the food still sucks and people stand around most of the time. Minus the brief moments of absolute terror.
 
A Type Zero has BLACK BOX vital systems, many redundancies and enough firepower to Sink Australia alone. There is a reason why Anna fuck you beam is considered an acceptable level of collateral damage against a high level Antagonist.

Granted they actually have not seen a Type Zero sink Australia, but that's the theorized power of a type Zero specialized in destruction.

It has been theorized the only reason humanity is still standing is because the Antagonist is holdind back rhe realky big guns to not create a "meteorite who killed the dinosaurs" scenario.

But that's inevitable that most of Earth will become a wasteland.

Hence Arcologies.
 
A Type Zero has BLACK BOX vital systems, many redundancies and enough firepower to Sink Australia alone. There is a reason why Anna fuck you beam is considered an acceptable level of collateral damage against a high level Antagonist.

Granted they actually have not seen a Type Zero sink Australia, but that's the theorized power of a type Zero specialized in destruction.

It has been theorized the only reason humanity is still standing is because the Antagonist is holdind back rhe realky big guns to not create a "meteorite who killed the dinosaurs" scenario.

But that's inevitable that most of Earth will become a wasteland.

Hence Arcologies.

Ain't Australia a gator or summin, tho? Don' think you can sink one o' them.

Spoiler alert: High Level Antagonists cannot actually do the Alex Mercer out of scraps and slivers. The rumour mills... may have exaggerated their capabilities in that regard. The UN doesn't mind that since it ensues their soldiers are very thorough in killing High Level Antagonists.

High Level Antagonists need their central systems intact to regenerate and certain systems, such as Higgs reactors or generators in Types, are too complex to ever regenerate regardless (Valkyries in the background grumble at the exception to their seemingly magical restoration abilities). Lets take an example, the 'Ant' laser anti-air High Level Antagonists that you kicked the crap out of in the first sim you participated in. They are structured similarly to giant millipedes with laser ports all over, and each segment of the body is -given enough time- capable of restoring the entire platform to full power. You, Shuri and Sandra only damaged a few to the point of complete destruction, but every single one was put quite thoroughly out of commission combat wise.

A higher power example. Type 5. It has two 'Restoration points' which include enough vital systems so as to be able to reconstruct the entire frame within the wings. So yes, if you cut a Type 5 in half without damaging those core systems, you'd eventually have two Type 5s crawl out of the dirt, each of them capable of binary fission too.

So why doesn't this happen all over the place? Firstly, most High Level AGs have, at best, one single 'restoration point' -often called the 'core'- present, so they can't fission. Secondly, it takes ages to restore all the destroyed bits, months minimum for a Type and maybe years for weaker AG types. Lastly AGs are largely combat ineffective whilst regenerating, since you know, they're missing lots of bits and bobs.

The Breaches create Types and other High Level AGs much faster than leaving a whole bunch around cut to pieces regenerating would increase their forces and that doesn't decrease their combat ready reserves at that.

Now that makes them sound easy to destroy, aim for their 'core', move on. Not quite that simple, whilst destroying those vital systems will prevent a High Level AGs from ever being able to self repair to full effectiveness, it does not exclude the possibility that they return and repair at an AG Fort or Breach. Nor does it necessarily render them combat ineffective, Types especially can fight on even with many systems -many somewhat inaccurately labeled vital- destroyed.

Now sure, cut off a piece of a High Level AG and there'll be enough Nano-carbon-quantum-machines still active inside of it for it to wriggle around, but such pieces will not reanimate and it dies as it runs out of power. Even if you keep feeding it power, nothing will change.

-When senpai posts WOG and its 100% in line with how you were treating your omake

God that feels goooooood. XD

That interlude was hilarious. Sitting eating breakfast, telling myself "well, I'll check all my alerts, then straight to work." Did NOT expect a post from senpai. Thank you senpai, you da bess *hugs*. I shall repay with omakē.
 
On further thought. That last post by OP makes think a grunt quest in this universe would be hilarious. Like orbital debris, valks nonsensing it up and just the fact that your job actually matches your ego once.
 
Now sure, cut off a piece of a High Level AG and there'll be enough Nano-carbon-quantum-machines still active inside of it for it to wriggle around, but such pieces will not reanimate and it dies as it runs out of power. Even if you keep feeding it power, nothing will change.

This, of course, totally means that some of those spooks the soldiers spoke about must have kept feeding the Antagonist pieces like that to try it out. Maybe water them like flowers too for maximum science, just to be sure.

....
New goal: Have Anna eat T0's Core and see what happens.

It would be under "T", so it's going to be a while until The List reaches that far.
 
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A Type Zero has BLACK BOX vital systems, many redundancies and enough firepower to Sink Australia alone. There is a reason why Anna fuck you beam is considered an acceptable level of collateral damage against a high level Antagonist.

Granted they actually have not seen a Type Zero sink Australia, but that's the theorized power of a type Zero specialized in destruction.

It has been theorized the only reason humanity is still standing is because the Antagonist is holdind back rhe realky big guns to not create a "meteorite who killed the dinosaurs" scenario.

But that's inevitable that most of Earth will become a wasteland.

Hence Arcologies.
When WoG confirms that, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll insist that you really don't understand the sheer scale of force required to sink Australia.
 
Although Class A T0 (Kronos to be specific) do have the ability to turn a rather large area (an entire FOB) to a pool of white-hot lava within minutes (no further details but can be assumed that it's within an hour at most).
 
Nah. "Antagonist type zero"

It's under A.
And you notice we started (in-quest) at 'B' We already ate one :p

Although Class A T0 (Kronos to be specific) do have the ability to turn a rather large area (an entire FOB) to a pool of white-hot lava within minutes (no further details but can be assumed that it's within an hour at most).
Probably more like ten minutes. Any longer and saying "in minutes" wouldn't be the correct connotation.
Though the question is whether Kronos's base-slagging weapon can sustain that for long enough to turn Australia into a wasteland. We do know that Type-0s can Higgs Boost indefinitely, letting them finish off their destruction by outrunning the Valk kill squads that just showed up.
 
When WoG confirms that, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll insist that you really don't understand the sheer scale of force required to sink Australia.

Way less than "Meteor that kills dinosaurs" that's suposed to be one of the Antagonists BIG weapons.

After all Type Zeros are still quite small. If the Antagonists do have ships bigger than Arcolgies then the only reason they are holding back is because they don't want to nuke the planet.

Also, it makes sence to protect the vital components black boxes as that not only would make Type Zeros harder to kill, its solution to "Cannot regenerate certain parts."

Only of course, it would be something saved to their big guns.

Thankfully, the Antagonist probably won't use the big ships inside a planet Atmosphere.
 
Way less than "Meteor that kills dinosaurs" that's suposed to be one of the Antagonists BIG weapons.

After all Type Zeros are still quite small. If the Antagonists do have ships bigger than Arcolgies then the only reason they are holding back is because they don't want to nuke the planet.

Also, it makes sence to protect the vital components black boxes as that not only would make Type Zeros harder to kill, its solution to "Cannot regenerate certain parts."

Only of course, it would be something saved to their big guns.

Thankfully, the Antagonist probably won't use the big ships inside a planet Atmosphere.
...what?

Since when do the Antagonists have ships bigger than arcologies?

And since when do the antagonists care about holding back to prevent damage to the planet's biomes?

And how does regeneration-capable components relate to big superweapons at all?

Where are you getting this stuff from?
 
...what?

Since when do the Antagonists have ships bigger than arcologies?

And since when do the antagonists care about holding back to prevent damage to the planet's biomes?

And how does regeneration-capable components relate to big superweapons at all?

Where are you getting this stuff from?

Some of the stuff Pink says makes no sense whatsoever -- I remember getting into an argument with him a couple hundred pages back when he claimed it was illegal for Anna to have been fighting off the AGs that were attacking her town pre-story. Yes, I know exactly how strange that sounds. Yes, it really happened.
 
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