I noticed something.
When we sleep / lose consciousness Durga gets to editing. Pretty sure, anyway.
Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)
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I noticed something.
When we sleep / lose consciousness Durga gets to editing. Pretty sure, anyway.
Cassiemouse
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Well being a crazy anti-hero is one kind of main character... but I don't really think that is the way we want to go.
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Given how OP we are, that's more likely to make us the villain that the heroes need to spend the whole season powering up to take down.
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Active suppression is my guess.
I think of Durga as Anna's subconscious, but expanded to manage the entirety of a Valkerie's full capabilities 24/7, as if it were a natural extension of her own body.
Slith10
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Sirrocco
Pedantic
Everybody... I think I know who "Durga" is.
So Anna started out as a pretty normal girl, who then had an "augment everything as needed, especially as needed to be good at combat" machine strapped onto her for a Really Long Time, and then pushed herself through some seriously psychologically traumatizing stuff, where she needed to keep going - needed to keep fighting, and simply did not have time to cry. If you're a good "augment everything as necessary" machine, even if you're not sentient yourself, you'll borrow some of those cycles from your host to understand what she needs better, and then you'll rewrite her psychologically as well as physically. The two of them got to be pretty good at this, and fused - each offloading processing onto the other seamlessly as necessary/useful. Then, suddenly, they hit an OOCP. Suddenly, Anna needed to have skills at Social, as well as skills at Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill. So what do you do? After all, the enemy is still out there, and you probably *will* have to fight again later - possibly in situations that are just as bad.
Well, you build a secondary personality. You clone the Anna that you have, you edit the memories a bit, you tweak thing here, you tweak things there, and then you hand it control over the body and watch it run.
"Durga" is Anna's original personality. The girl we're playing is really just an Anna emulator running with somewhat reduced privs and heavy oversight in the hopes of growing something that can act like a human being again.
So Anna started out as a pretty normal girl, who then had an "augment everything as needed, especially as needed to be good at combat" machine strapped onto her for a Really Long Time, and then pushed herself through some seriously psychologically traumatizing stuff, where she needed to keep going - needed to keep fighting, and simply did not have time to cry. If you're a good "augment everything as necessary" machine, even if you're not sentient yourself, you'll borrow some of those cycles from your host to understand what she needs better, and then you'll rewrite her psychologically as well as physically. The two of them got to be pretty good at this, and fused - each offloading processing onto the other seamlessly as necessary/useful. Then, suddenly, they hit an OOCP. Suddenly, Anna needed to have skills at Social, as well as skills at Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill. So what do you do? After all, the enemy is still out there, and you probably *will* have to fight again later - possibly in situations that are just as bad.
Well, you build a secondary personality. You clone the Anna that you have, you edit the memories a bit, you tweak thing here, you tweak things there, and then you hand it control over the body and watch it run.
"Durga" is Anna's original personality. The girl we're playing is really just an Anna emulator running with somewhat reduced privs and heavy oversight in the hopes of growing something that can act like a human being again.
Yep. It's not matter what you have, but how (and why) you use it.
This is why I was playing with tropes some pages ago. The way I read the quest, we are on first or second anime episode. MC is not defined yet. He does not have set roly trope in story. As such, Anna can become what he currently is not. You know anime - there is almost always only one character with given 'role' in a setting. Single clueless moron. Single comic relief. Single traumatic past. Single childhood friend. Single resolve that shakes the earth. Single rule-breaking plot-relevant superweapom. Etc.
Rokusabe is 'destined' to get some of those tropes. You know: "I will protect you, for my heart is pure and my lust is strong". Once that happens, then he is set. Everyone loves to see underdog win agains superior foe, when fighting for his female companions. So he will be given tools to do exactly that. And all his companions will be forced into situation that require his help. When that happens we "lose points".
So how can we make it not happen? By conflicting it with already set 'tropes'. Let's take Anna. She wants to protect her squad. Imagine for the moment, that set her mind on the fact, that offence is best defence. That her teammates WILL die eventually, if they enter the battle. Imagine that she resolves to something about it herself. Here and now. Before her companions have to fight the enemy. That she bends all her will, her mind and soul to grow stronger, strong enough to enter the Breaches and destroy them, as she did once in the past. That she will is stonily resolved to take any opportunity and all risk to make it happen...
How would you expect anime to go, then? In this scenario Anna is the underdog. She works on the clock, under heavy handicap and no lesser pressure, to protect her companions - with failure defined as companions entering the battlefield. And everyone lover to see underdog win agains superior foe, when fighting for his or her companions. It makes Anna primary character. She struggles, and anime is defined be struggle.
The same with tragic past. Usually tragic past of secondary character is treated as a flaw, swiftly cured by main character. I.e: faced with impossible situation MC exclaims: "We will protect them, You will see!" when SC goes "I believe in you!" no matter how idiotic it is, then MC pulls his trusty superweapon and with power of lust, er... will, they saves them. Then tragic past trauma of SC is gone, world is made brighter, and SC have one more reason to love MC.
How to prevent that? By making a 'cure' of past trauma to conflict with existing trope. Again the 'struggle' thing. If Anna works to move past her trauma, struggle to be something more, to reconnect with people, then 'trauma' cannot be cured. If at the same time, it is the source of her resolve, her driving force, than is promised to be fulfilled only once all Antagonists are dead - then trauma stays. Anna struggles under heavy handicap - and everyone loves to see the underdog win.
...ranting again. Gonna stop.
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Actually we're on the 8th/9th.
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Oh, everybody can have a traumatic past in anime. Hell, look at this anime. Anna's got one, Shuri's got one, Sandra's been kidnapped, Yukari's got whatever Sandra and Shuri were trying to deal with by picking that sim.
A little bit of speculation that I probably spent way too much time reworking, anyway this is enough speculation for now, goodnight.
Now "You're late" is a statement from the first update made by Anna in response to the UNAF attempts at communication whereupon Anna snaps, but avoids doing something she'd regret due to the high density, high bandwidth of UN traffic briefly knocking her out.
Yet what if in that brief moment Ana fatally wounds one of the Valkyries nearby which is entirely reasonable given what we've seen this leads into the flashback Anna had when Koujirou was injured with the end result being Anna uploading her consciousness into Durga's core, and piecing together a functional human body for the mostly dead Valkyrie. This would explain why Anna doesn't remember talking with Durga while Anna does have memories of doing so, how Anna is familiar with the message from UNNECOM, and why Anna was noted to be shrinking(Anna was significantly larger than Anna).
This presumably means the latest memory belongs to the Valkyrie Anna saved who assumed the persona(?) of Anna either due to Anna using party of her brain to repair the damage, or as a means of mentally dealing with the trauma, the latter of which would explain the screaming at the end of Anna's pov.
The advice in bold font would be echoes/impressions/persona of her mother produced from being synced with Durga for such a long period of time(Is that how a 300 Frame is able to constantly improve weapons regardless of whether someone is synced with it?), with the constantly repeating message being a final message, set on repeat from a mother who truly loved her daughter.
So anyone got any ideas how the Antagonists would use Higgs particles to avert a Hive being gone for good?
Looking at the QM post on the early war, the 300 Frames appeared around 2062 which is around when the Uralsk, Moscow, and the Elazig breaches were destroyed(going by the fluff for their historic scenarios) leaving only the minor breach in africa, so I suppose a date for the destruction of that Hive is good to know.
I distinctly recall Anna's first encounter with UN forces ending with her incapacitation due to their high density, high bandwidth traffic thereby preventing her from doing something she'd regret. So unless Anna's encounter at the town wasn't her first one I'm not seeing how this would be familiar.
The entity in bold font blames herself entirely for the death of the town people because she was late, but it gets more interesting when you take into account that on Anna's character sheet " The attacks ceased." proceeds "You were late", so it reasonable to conclude that the Antagonists didn't kill the remaining townspeople.
Now "You're late" is a statement from the first update made by Anna in response to the UNAF attempts at communication whereupon Anna snaps, but avoids doing something she'd regret due to the high density, high bandwidth of UN traffic briefly knocking her out.
Yet what if in that brief moment Ana fatally wounds one of the Valkyries nearby which is entirely reasonable given what we've seen this leads into the flashback Anna had when Koujirou was injured with the end result being Anna uploading her consciousness into Durga's core, and piecing together a functional human body for the mostly dead Valkyrie. This would explain why Anna doesn't remember talking with Durga while Anna does have memories of doing so, how Anna is familiar with the message from UNNECOM, and why Anna was noted to be shrinking(Anna was significantly larger than Anna).
This presumably means the latest memory belongs to the Valkyrie Anna saved who assumed the persona(?) of Anna either due to Anna using party of her brain to repair the damage, or as a means of mentally dealing with the trauma, the latter of which would explain the screaming at the end of Anna's pov.
I'd say the former extreme occurs when Anna is mostly in charge, while the latter occurs when the combat instincts from Anna come into play, in hindsight the "All you need is kill.", option from update 14 is probably Anna assuming control. I'd expect the impassive appearance is due to Anna being more used to expressing emotion through her Frame than her body., with Anna copying the trait.
Anna is totally unaware to the strain due to Anna being more than able to make up for Anna's inefficient positioning.
Ah Setsuna if only you knew how wrong you are.
Well at least Yukari benefited from this historic scenario, also this really isn't helping me discredit my crack theory that the primary difference between -1 and +1 back-stories is that humanity only won by virtue of the named character hijacking the means by which the Antagonists use Higgs particles to form a time-loop whereas +1 back-story, humanity didn't need a hero to win, just the 300 Frames which might capable of tagging along for thereby using the Antagonists cheats as even more time to refine their equipment.
Emphasis is mine, and hopefully the Antagonists can't use Higgs particles to time-travel because that would make the plot a headache to work out the details, but would explain our QM's statement about many of the backstory points never seeing the light of day.
Well I suppose UN forces accidentally bombing the town, and/or dooming the survivors due to fallout would explain Anna's issue with any friendly fire, along with why her weapons were constantly shifting north east how Anna was late.
That explains where Anna acquired the exotic material which comprises Durga's armour.
Anna finds the simulators ability to replicate a Type Five's taste lacking, also it can't replicate the useful parts to consume.
It is nice to see how the UN forces combat type zeroes, along with how OP 300 Frames are, although we won't truly know how Anna compares until we see her go all out.
So normally a Valkyrie needs to de-synch with their core in order to deal with the fatigue headache, I imagine this has to do with how a 300 level pilot can easily lead to burn out, hence why they constantly shift between pilots.
I'd like to note that "No important information received." used to be bold, or at least I recall it being in veekie's(iirc) response.
Now that I've gotten to the end of the update I suppose an alternative explanation would be for Anna's mother(it would certainly make " - So, it's just us left in the end. - " a very tragic foreshadowing) being the individual who defended the unnamed town who chose to save Anna from fallout at the cost of her own life, and Anna being so traumatized she tried to forget by forming a new personality based on her mother's deeds using the very extensive combat data stored in Durga's core.
The advice in bold font would be echoes/impressions/persona of her mother produced from being synced with Durga for such a long period of time(Is that how a 300 Frame is able to constantly improve weapons regardless of whether someone is synced with it?), with the constantly repeating message being a final message, set on repeat from a mother who truly loved her daughter.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
'Cept it was stated that it was crazy villagers who finished the good ones off.
Nu, crazy villagers.
I'm confused by your commentary. Confused. Maybe I should sleep more? Because some bits of it seem a bit incoherent. Like my thought processes.
Alphaleph
The Firstiest of First
Nope, they were in the middle of trying when Anna decide to stop it through lethal force. Some villagers were still hunkering down when Anna left to bust down the Hive, but some Antagonist stragglers visited the town when she was out fighting Sekhmet.
This one is true though, it's the whole debacle that made Anna very averse with it.
You can bet she's gonna flip the fuse if she heard someone trying to "antagonize" the other side.
OMG A SHEEP
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W-We aren't even holding hands! C-cmon guys... Anna isn't that kind of g-girl!
Everything is cheese and crackers until your girlfriend eats one too many Antagonists and finally starts munching on your teammates
Slith10
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Spotted this in skaianDestinys post and I can't think of anyone who pointed it out yet. I think all of the harem has been introduced.
Thats just horrifying enough to be true.
Alphaleph
The Firstiest of First
What? It's pretty clear though?
1st statement: "The hostile villagers killed off all the friendly ones!" > Nope, Anna finished them off even before she left to destroy the Hive and then return to find everyone left dead.
2nd statement: "Who caused Anna's issue with human vs human?" > The hostile villagers.
Technically speaking, that part is pointed out whenever someone points towards the episode list.
Also, not all, the superhuman friend is still missing.
OMG A SHEEP
Not of a serious temperament
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Inb4 Durga is the Superhuman friend
Orbital
Cyberpsycho
What's the rating for 'this is an entirely plausible and really quite intriguing piece of speculation but it's scary and I don't like it.' ?
Slith10
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*insert joke about political correctness here*
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I mean that they just met the superhuman friend in the anime.Technically speaking, that part is pointed out whenever someone points towards the episode list.
Also, not all, the superhuman friend is still missing.
Alphaleph
The Firstiest of First
Don't think so, the superhuman friend was implied to be Kouji's other childhood friend. Whoever that was asked someone else (likely Anna) instead of Kouji.
Slith10
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And then Anna attains MC status be becoming The Superhuman, The Childhood Friend,The Ace, The Ojou and The Little Sister.
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Yeah, because this would be the first time in fiction or reality someone forgot a childhood friend.
Alphaleph
The Firstiest of First
Considering the genre, I'd rather believe Kouji the one forgetting than the other way around.
Anyway, not enough info, probably would be seen when we met the others since they're likely to mention it.