But Anna DOES keep thinking they're real before she's reminded that their not.

Like I went and quoted all the bits where people were in danger and Anna almost flew off the handle before managed to calm down. I.E she's still getting used to the sims, and we shouldn't push it.
Thank you for quoting those bits about the sim, by the way, and they definitely show that Anna is still getting used to the sims. But they also show that the main problem is that the sims aren't realistic enough (i.e. she tends to see "decoy drone" rather than "antagonist" and so forth). Facing a simulated Class 0 (for instance) and going berserk because she can't tell that it's not real won't be a problem. Nor would seeing one of her teammates "die", because her sensors would tell her that they're perfectly fine.

The part where she almost flew off the handle was in response to one of the other Valkyries deliberately targeted an area which contained a contact that Anna had marked as friendly. The behavior of the other Valkyrie was out of line, so Anna was correct to be angry at her and if the same situation had happened in the real world, the correct response would have been to act to prevent the friendly fire from occurring. But Anna didn't actually act in that situation because she did realize that it was just a sim. So Anna's response was correct through and through.

In short, I don't think that any of the sims mentioned as options in the update would cause Anna to be traumatized or put her at risk of berserking. Some of the Scenarios might cause the others to be traumatized (i.e. they don't have sensors that can tell that a "death" is being faked) - and Shuri or Sandra might have PTSD flashbacks, but I'm not worried about Anna.
 
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Vote change
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
-[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?

Guys can we please stop arguing?
 
Why do you guys keep generalizing the other side of the argument like that? Other then me I've only seen like two or three other people who want a breakdown and you guys are basically saying that the entire other half of the argument are like that when most of them probably only want to see the team be challenged and grow stronger as a result. Not to mention as one of the people who want a breakdown I seriously doubt that a difficult mission will cause us to have a breakdown In the first place. We would probably need to pic Vae Victus or get a critfail but that would probably be the same on moderate too. And if you people are so scared of Anna boarding the trauma train because of one of her squadmates getting shot down in the difficult mission what's to stop one of them rolling bad and getting shot down in the moderate sim too!
Seriously, this. This is the reason I won't change my vote to support the Moderate Historical option.

I would have been convinced, but I refuse to contribute to a voter base that continually demonized their opposition with total flanderized arguments.

Seriously? Out of the like 150 voters, I doubt more than 50 of them have even EXPRESSED an opinion in their vote. There's been about ~15 of us arguing over the issue and getting heated by it.

Thank you for quoting those bits about the sim, by the way, and they definitely show that Anna is still getting used to the sims. But they also show that the main problem is that the sims aren't realistic enough (i.e. she tends to see "decoy drone" rather than "antagonist" and so forth). Facing a simulated Class 0 (for instance) and going berserk because she can't tell that it's not real won't be a problem. Nor would seeing one of her teammates "die", because her sensors would tell her that they're perfectly fine.

The part where she almost flew off the handle was in response to one of the other Valkyries deliberately targeted an area which contained a contact that Anna had marked as friendly. The behavior of the other Valkyrie was out of line, so Anna was correct to be angry at her and (if the same situation had happened in the real world), the correct response would have been to act to prevent the friendly fire from occurring. But Anna didn't actually act in that situation because she did realize that it was just a sim. So Anna's response was correct through and through.

In short, I don't think that any of the sims mentioned as options in the update would cause Anna to be traumatized or put her at risk of berserking. Some of the Scenarios might cause the others to be traumatized (i.e. they don't have sensors that can tell that a "death" is being faked) - and Shuri or Sandra might have PTSD flashbacks, but I'm not worried about Anna.

There were the bits with the simulated humans where she almost went off too that had me concerned. And the fake-notfake thing seems to be really bugging Anna. Which is kinda why I don't want to do any sim that might be too stressful until we get the Fake/Notfake thing worked out solidly. A good month of classes / occasional sims outside of them should do the job. That's when I'd be more accommodating towards going harder at the sims.


Edit: at this point the discussion seems to be a dead horse, and the vote seems to have solidified into the moderate lore sim.
 
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In this episode, it was revealed that Anna was an Ace, probably a veteran, and someone even guessed she had a role in the Alaska offense. I find kind of interesting that in the same episode we are voting to simulate the Alaska offense, in an scenario which explains that "Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means". Wonder how many of the theorical viewers would link the two. On a side note, any particular reaction Anna has to that scenario in particular could be interpretated to be because of her service time there.

Incidentally this actually shows that Setsuna is higher ranked then Sandra. I sadly couldn't find any reference to Koji's Combat Rating but given MC Powers I'm going to say he is in the Setsuna/Sandra range.
Actually, I think Sandra surpased Setsuna on day 2 or 3. She had good training rolls. So Sandra is already stronger than she was on that Moderate difficulty mission. About Koujiro, no idea how strong he is compared to the other two, but he already has a special move that might be strong enough to be significant AND he gets 4 re-rolls a day for when he rolls bad, because MC powers. On the other hand, we have no idea if the training we have been doing in class is MODERATE or if it's EASY (to train beginner Valkiries on their first week flying). We should check how strong actually were the oponents in the moderate scenario we did and check if 3-5 Sandras could beat that easily. Because that is the closer we got to understand what is to hold back in the moderate scenario.

Personally, I mostly want one of the historical missions, and I'd be fine with a difficult one if we knew which of the historicals were difficult rather than impossible; but lacking that bit of information, I'm voting for the moderate that I think is likely to provoke interesting conversation.
I think we can guess some. Avalanche has given lots of world building information.
>[]Historic Scenarios (Difficult to Impossible)
>>[]First Contact (Survival. As the name suggests. Survive the Antagonist attacks, protect the ICBMs on terminal approach, survive the resulting explosions)
>>[]Uralsk Massacre (Survival/Objective. First human attack on a Breach. Succeed.)
>>[]Battle of Britain (Survival/Objective. Hold the island until the first of the 300 frames arrive.)
>>[]Once more unto the Breach (Objective. The Elazig Breach is ahead, Type Zero Indra is behind. Destroy the Breach before you are destroyed.)
>>[]To the Stars (Escort. Protect Ark Ship Noah from Type Zero Abraxas. Until it passes Martian Orbit.)
>>[]Second Impact (Objective. Protect the ascending orbital defence satellites from attack.)
>>[]Omnicide (Survival. Type Zero Aswang has broken the back of the UN African Front. Regroup under intensifying Antagonist attacks and survive until the bulk of UN Forces committed at Guera breach and against Type Zero Indra return.)
>>[]One small step for man (Objective. Protect lunar base Armstrong from attack until Valkyrie Battleship Gomorrah activates.)

First Contact: It means that Valkiry Cores weren't used for military purpouses yet, or if they were it was recent. Probably little to no backup. Probably Impossible.
Uralsk Massacre: First times always go bad. And I think it was mentioned we lost that one. Could be either, but I'm inclined for impossible.
Battle of Britain: I think its Difficult. It was the first appeareance of the 300 frames, and I think the Humanity won that one.
To the Stars it's obviously Impossible. Abraxas is a Class A type Zero, fighting in space means higher death toll and Humanity lost that one.

Not sure about the others. For Second Impact, we should check if we have them when the instructor talked about the space force to know if it's winnable, but it's in space and that adds risk. Same for One small step for man. In Omnicide we fight a type Zero. Shuri can survive, though not beat, the low class ones for a while and the other 3 have no chance. And we don't even know the rank (have to check if he was mentioned before) so we might not beat it (though I think is low class, since it was just after fighting Indra if it was high class he would be even more infamous). And once more into the breach... Indra was one of the infamous, crazy motherfuckers. And it's probably too soon to show of what is a type Zero in the anime -we haven't reached the tournament, too soon to show a final boss-.

So, if someone wants to do a Historical Difficult -not impossible- it would be battle of Britain. And we might even see a glimpse of what the 300 can actually do. Though probably it's too late by now.
 
In this episode, it was revealed that Anna was an Ace, probably a veteran, and someone even guessed she had a role in the Alaska offense.
It wasn't a guess.
For a moment she seems to want to continue her sentence, but then hesitates, her eyes lingering on you and you feel a scan from her. You immediately jam her on instinct, before catching a hold of yourself. Ah, that's probably why Yukari asked you not to scan other Valkyries without reason.

She staggers a step and claps her hand to her temple, wincing, "Alright, never gonna do that again…" she mutters, shaking her head and turning to Yukari, "Well, can't really label your group fresh meat…"

"Anna was at Alaska also," replies Yukari quietly.

"Oh. Well shit." said O'Conner, smile sliding off her face.
(This was also where we met Ace Hiroto Asuna)
 
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[x]Vae Victus (Humanity has lost. Earth burns. Protect the Major Arcologies as they lift off. Until at least one passes Lunar Orbit. Humanity will remember your sacrifice.)
No. of votes: 4
kellanved, JoshieWoshie, mc2rpg, Lost Egos
[x]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 16
kellanved, Ragnar, Chronic, Gore17, Bki, JoshieWoshie, kylina, mc2rpg, meganeshounen, Cassiemouse, Lost Egos, jacobk, Delwgun, Tavarokk, EternalLight, GulibleLeprecon
[X]Historic Scenarios (Difficult to Impossible)
No. of votes: 9
dpara, Chronic, Bki, Cassiemouse, Nervos Belli, Cuddles, SometimesMaybe, Bozwevial, GulibleLeprecon
-[X]One small step for man (Objective. Protect lunar base Armstrong from attack until Valkyrie Battleship Gomorrah activates.)
No. of votes: 1
dpara
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 45
dpara, Kerfitd, Aeondrac, GaleBread, Seventeen, marids, Nervos Belli, Cuddles, Serous, wingstrike96, Hazard, SometimesMaybe, bdun140, Artantasys, Bozwevial, Archanist, Nagon, NotAlwaysFanfic, Tornadohunter, Dragonloli123, TheFourthman, anowack, Alfa290, Havocfett, Candesce, Bag of Bones, Ridiculously Average Guy, Mizu, Sasha, Ginger Maniac, skaianDestiny, Prent, joe6168, Redshirt Army, Bulldog18, Dirtnap, Aranfan, RandomLurker, XavierIII, rikalous, HidCyan, Velocirampage, Nave, Random Asian Person, Tonaris
[X]Randomly generated scenario
No. of votes: 33
Restalaan, Kerfitd, Aeondrac, Gore17, Seventeen, Devran, marids, Serous, wingstrike96, Hazard, Artantasys, LightMage, Goldenlima, Bloodalchemy, Archanist, King_Rule, NotAlwaysFanfic, Felipe Melo, Tornadohunter, Vanguard_D, Chaosbrain, Eisenstein80060, core_88, Yun, Dragonloli123, Alfa290, UberJJK, RandomLurker, Nidhoggr, qsurf, Enjou, AZATHOTHoth, Sarpedon
-[X]Difficult
No. of votes: 32
Restalaan, Kerfitd, Aeondrac, Seventeen, Devran, marids, Serous, wingstrike96, Hazard, Artantasys, LightMage, Goldenlima, Bloodalchemy, Archanist, Nagon, King_Rule, NotAlwaysFanfic, Dark Abstraction, Felipe Melo, Tornadohunter, Vanguard_D, Chaosbrain, Eisenstein80060, core_88, Dragonloli123, Alfa290, UberJJK, RandomLurker, Nidhoggr, Enjou, AZATHOTHoth, Sarpedon
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 80
Restalaan, meganeshounen, LightMage, Goldenlima, Clarvel, Bloodalchemy, Nagon, King_Rule, NotAlwaysFanfic, Dark Abstraction, Felipe Melo, Guile, Delcer, Vanguard_D, Chaosbrain, Eisenstein80060, core_88, Yun, Jiven, Vebyast, Hannz, racnor, Razauq, Interested Party, Conjured Blade, notanautomaton, OneirosTheWriter, cyberswordsmen, SynchronizedWritersBlock, Slith10, veekie, Chimeraguard, Camellia, Perplexed moth, ultima333, UberJJK, notgreat, elenchus, Alphaleph, Blaze121o, ArchRegis, defenestrator, khang, CeBrudras, Nidhoggr, Dark as Silver, Demotivator, dontpressenter, qsurf, SETIFAN, Koden, Kliden, Guilop, NotAKobold, boonerunner, Pipeman, chocolote12, NuclearConsensus, Stahor, Inglorien, Nottheunmaker, numina, Zhead, xenondestroyer, Scia, sesbio, Enjou, dash931, Stormwhite, EmpirePlayer, Varano, AZATHOTHoth, Atomic Aztec, Elvarein, Paper Weasel, Bigger9, kitsune9, Octol, Sarpedon, TopHattedZombie
[X]Battle of Britain (Survival/Objective. Hold the island until the first of the 300 frames arrive.)
No. of votes: 4
Ragnar, GaleBread, bdun140, Tavarokk
[X]First Contact (Survival. As the name suggests. Survive the Antagonist attacks, protect the ICBMs on terminal approach, survive the resulting explosions)
No. of votes: 2
Chronic, Bki
[X]Hold the Line (Survival/Objective. A military installation must be protected as long as possible while they finish a weapon that can win the war. Antagonists are attacking in endless waves of increasing size and danger, eventually attacking with the support of Type Zero's.)
No. of votes: 1
Gore17
[X]Uralsk Massacre (Survival/Objective. First human attack on a Breach. Succeed.)
No. of votes: 7
meganeshounen, Cassiemouse, Delwgun, EternalLight, Nagon, Dark Abstraction, GulibleLeprecon
[X]Once more unto the Breach (Objective. The Elazig Breach is ahead, Type Zero Indra is behind. Destroy the Breach before you are destroyed.)
No. of votes: 4
Nervos Belli, Cuddles, SometimesMaybe, Bozwevial
[X]Future Simulated Scenarios (Varies)
No. of votes: 1
jacobk
[X]Manifest Destiny (The West Coast is now under human control. With only the major breaches left and isolated, clear a path to the East Coast of the North American Continent.)
No. of votes: 1
jacobk
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
No. of votes: 83
Clarvel, anowack, Vebyast, Havocfett, Candesce, Bag of Bones, eraserman, Ridiculously Average Guy, Mizu, Sasha, Ginger Maniac, skaianDestiny, Hannz, racnor, Prent, Razauq, Hanashinobi, joe6168, Redshirt Army, Robotninja, Conjured Blade, notanautomaton, cyberswordsmen, SynchronizedWritersBlock, Bulldog18, The Sylentnight, Slith10, ........, Wander, veekie, Chimeraguard, Camellia, Perplexed moth, ultima333, Dirtnap, elenchus, Alphaleph, Blaze121o, Aranfan, ArchRegis, defenestrator, khang, Drasis, CeBrudras, Dark as Silver, Demotivator, dontpressenter, SETIFAN, Koden, Kliden, XavierIII, rikalous, HidCyan, Velocirampage, Guilop, NotAKobold, boonerunner, Nave, Pipeman, chocolote12, Olivebirdy, NuclearConsensus, Stahor, Inglorien, Nottheunmaker, numina, Zhead, xenondestroyer, Scia, sesbio, dash931, Stormwhite, EmpirePlayer, Varano, Atomic Aztec, Random Asian Person, Tonaris, Elvarein, Paper Weasel, Bigger9, kitsune9, Octol, TopHattedZombie
-[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
No. of votes: 82
Clarvel, Vebyast, Havocfett, Candesce, Bag of Bones, eraserman, Ridiculously Average Guy, Mizu, Sasha, Ginger Maniac, skaianDestiny, Hannz, racnor, Prent, Razauq, Hanashinobi, joe6168, Redshirt Army, Robotninja, Conjured Blade, notanautomaton, cyberswordsmen, SynchronizedWritersBlock, Bulldog18, The Sylentnight, Slith10, ........, Wander, veekie, Chimeraguard, Camellia, Perplexed moth, ultima333, Dirtnap, elenchus, Alphaleph, Blaze121o, Aranfan, ArchRegis, defenestrator, khang, Drasis, CeBrudras, Dark as Silver, Demotivator, dontpressenter, SETIFAN, Koden, Kliden, XavierIII, rikalous, HidCyan, Velocirampage, Guilop, NotAKobold, boonerunner, Nave, Pipeman, chocolote12, Olivebirdy, NuclearConsensus, Stahor, Inglorien, Nottheunmaker, numina, Zhead, xenondestroyer, Scia, sesbio, dash931, Stormwhite, EmpirePlayer, Varano, Atomic Aztec, Random Asian Person, Tonaris, Elvarein, Paper Weasel, Bigger9, kitsune9, Octol, TopHattedZombie
[X] Moderate
No. of votes: 2
Yun, qsurf
[X]Blitzkrieg (Search and Destroy. The Three Hundred Frames have devastated Antagonist forces across the entire European front. Uralsk breach was destroyed. March for either the Moscow or Elazig breaches, destroy every Antagonist you find.)
No. of votes: 2
TheFourthman, anowack
-[X] Suggest matching their kill counts perfectly to make sure you don't disturb the exercise in either direction.
No. of votes: 2
Vebyast, qsurf
[x]Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 2
The Sylentnight, Wander
-[X] If hold back: Single Sweep
No. of votes: 1
notgreat
-[X] If all-out: Uralsk Massacre
No. of votes: 1
notgreat
[X] Null
No. of votes: 1
Cogsprocket
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[x]Vae Victus (Humanity has lost. Earth burns. Protect the Major Arcologies as they lift off. Until at least one passes Lunar Orbit. Humanity will remember your sacrifice.)
[x]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 4
kellanved, JoshieWoshie, mc2rpg, Lost Egos
[X]Historic Scenarios (Difficult to Impossible)
-[X]One small step for man (Objective. Protect lunar base Armstrong from attack until Valkyrie Battleship Gomorrah activates.)
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 1
dpara
[X]Randomly generated scenario
-[X]Difficult
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 15
Restalaan, LightMage, Goldenlima, Bloodalchemy, King_Rule, Felipe Melo, Vanguard_D, Chaosbrain, Eisenstein80060, core_88, UberJJK, Nidhoggr, Enjou, AZATHOTHoth, Sarpedon
[x] Randomly generated scenario
[x] Difficult
[x] Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 13
Kerfitd, Aeondrac, Seventeen, marids, Serous, wingstrike96, Hazard, Artantasys, Archanist, Tornadohunter, Dragonloli123, Alfa290, RandomLurker
[X]Battle of Britain (Survival/Objective. Hold the island until the first of the 300 frames arrive.)
[X]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 2
Ragnar, Tavarokk
[X]Battle of Britain (Survival/Objective. Hold the island until the first of the 300 frames arrive.)
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 2
GaleBread, bdun140
[X]Historic Scenarios (Difficult to Impossible)
[X]First Contact (Survival. As the name suggests. Survive the Antagonist attacks, protect the ICBMs on terminal approach, survive the resulting explosions)
[X]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 2
Chronic, Bki
[X]Randomly generated scenario
[X]Hold the Line (Survival/Objective. A military installation must be protected as long as possible while they finish a weapon that can win the war. Antagonists are attacking in endless waves of increasing size and danger, eventually attacking with the support of Type Zero's.)
[X]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 1
Gore17
[X]Randomly generated scenario
-[X]Difficult
No. of votes: 1
Devran
[X]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 1
kylina
[X]Uralsk Massacre (Survival/Objective. First human attack on a Breach. Succeed.)
[X]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 1
meganeshounen
[X]Historic Scenarios (Difficult to Impossible)
-[X] Uralsk Massacre (Survival/Objective. First human attack on a Breach. Succeed.)
[X] Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 2
Cassiemouse, GulibleLeprecon
[X]Historic Scenarios (Difficult to Impossible)
[X]Once more unto the Breach (Objective. The Elazig Breach is ahead, Type Zero Indra is behind. Destroy the Breach before you are destroyed.)
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 4
Nervos Belli, Cuddles, SometimesMaybe, Bozwevial
[X]Future Simulated Scenarios (Varies)
[X]Manifest Destiny (The West Coast is now under human control. With only the major breaches left and isolated, clear a path to the East Coast of the North American Continent.)
[X]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 1
jacobk
[X]Uralsk Massacre (Survival/Objective. First human attack on a Breach. Succeed.)
[X]Use everything. No mercy, no calculus, no hesitation. No risk to the others. All you need is kill.
No. of votes: 2
Delwgun, EternalLight
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
-[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 52
Clarvel, Hannz, racnor, Razauq, Conjured Blade, notanautomaton, cyberswordsmen, SynchronizedWritersBlock, Slith10, veekie, Chimeraguard, Camellia, Perplexed moth, ultima333, elenchus, Alphaleph, Blaze121o, ArchRegis, defenestrator, khang, CeBrudras, Dark as Silver, Demotivator, dontpressenter, SETIFAN, Koden, Kliden, Guilop, NotAKobold, boonerunner, Pipeman, chocolote12, NuclearConsensus, Stahor, Inglorien, Nottheunmaker, numina, Zhead, xenondestroyer, Scia, sesbio, dash931, Stormwhite, EmpirePlayer, Varano, Atomic Aztec, Elvarein, Paper Weasel, Bigger9, kitsune9, Octol, TopHattedZombie
[X]Uralsk Massacre (Survival/Objective. First human attack on a Breach. Succeed.)
[X]Difficult
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
[X]Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 1
Nagon
[X] Randomly generated scenario
-[X] Difficult
[X] Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
-[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 1
NotAlwaysFanfic
[X]Uralsk Massacre (Survival/Objective. First human attack on a Breach. Succeed.)
[X]Difficult
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 1
Dark Abstraction
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 5
Guile, Delcer, Jiven, Interested Party, OneirosTheWriter
[X] Randomly generated scenario
[X] Moderate
[X]Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 1
Yun
[X]Blitzkrieg (Search and Destroy. The Three Hundred Frames have devastated Antagonist forces across the entire European front. Uralsk breach was destroyed. March for either the Moscow or Elazig breaches, destroy every Antagonist you find.)
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 1
TheFourthman
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
[X]Blitzkrieg (Search and Destroy. The Three Hundred Frames have devastated Antagonist forces across the entire European front. Uralsk breach was destroyed. March for either the Moscow or Elazig breaches, destroy every Antagonist you find.)
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 1
anowack
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
-[X] Suggest matching their kill counts perfectly to make sure you don't disturb the exercise in either direction.
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
-[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
No. of votes: 1
Vebyast
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
[X]Hold back. Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 21
Havocfett, Candesce, Bag of Bones, Ridiculously Average Guy, Mizu, Sasha, Ginger Maniac, skaianDestiny, Prent, joe6168, Redshirt Army, Bulldog18, Dirtnap, Aranfan, XavierIII, rikalous, HidCyan, Velocirampage, Nave, Random Asian Person, Tonaris
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
No. of votes: 6
eraserman, Hanashinobi, Robotninja, ........, Drasis, Olivebirdy
[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
[x]Allow the others to do most of the work, see if Sandra can put her money where her mouth is. You're still going to intervene if you see one of them in danger though.
No. of votes: 2
The Sylentnight, Wander
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
-[X] If hold back: Single Sweep
-[X] If all-out: Uralsk Massacre
No. of votes: 1

notgreat
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
-[X] Suggest matching their kill counts perfectly to make sure you don't disturb the exercise in either direction.
[X]Randomly generated scenario
[X]Moderate
No. of votes: 1
qsurf
[X] Null
No. of votes: 1
Cogsprocket

148 total votes.


Votes are now locked. Winning options:

All winning options have majority of vote.

[X]Historic Scenarios (Moderate)
No. of votes: 83
-[X]Single Sweep (Objective. Fairbanks Breach has been subjugated and Saskatoon Breach has been destroyed by unknown means, the flank is secure, San Francisco Breach is vulnerable, sweep down the coast.)
No. of votes: 82

How will you approach this
[X] Since there are two aces in the flight now, would you like Shuri and I to hold back further? Or should we stop for the next exercise and decide after that?
No. of votes: 80


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Well... when I started, I thought that this would be a rather niche quest to be honest, sure doesn't seem that way now...
 
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Seriously, this. This is the reason I won't change my vote to support the Moderate Historical option.

I would have been convinced, but I refuse to contribute to a voter base that continually demonized their opposition with total flanderized arguments.
Well you're not gonna have a fun time in the future.

When people start advocating their favourite pairings they tend to have one hand in their pants and one on the keyboard attempting to flanderize the opposition. Not a very nice picture.
 
Well... when I started, I thought that this would be a rather niche quest to be honest, sure doesn't seem that way now...
You have a dab hand with humor, a good grasp of how diction should vary by scene and character, the ability to write coherent believable characters, and your world design feels cohesive and organic instead of consisting of stitched together pieces of plot conveniences.
 
Does anyone else think the third Ace in the first year, Zoe, might be the Superhuman? She is supposed to be a 'Talent' rather than a 'Veteran' like Shuri is.
 
Alfa290 - Remnants - Tell me about
Interviewer: William Hershel, UNOMI
Interviewee: SGT David Rodriguez, 1-144th Field Artillery
FOB "Trident" - Sacramento 1800

-Begin Transcript-

Hershel: Tell me about San Francisco.

Rodriguez: Heh, what's to tell? We threw every asset on the west coast we had at it, and bounced off without even scratching the paint. The Nevadans got broken in half. The Mormons limped away with ten people at most. Arizona lost their vehicles. You name them, they got eaten alive by the enemy's defenses. It was a suicide mission and we knew it. Still hurts though.

H: If it was a suicide mission, then why commit?

R: Are you asking stupid questions just because?

H: No, and please answer the question.

R: Fine, we were doing it for you useless pukes.

H: Oh?

R: Yeah, we did. The enemy may zero in on over air transmissions, but they didn't notice the miles of fiber running underground. After we rebuilt the facilities to actually use the cable, we had reliable communication all the way out to New York.

R: From New York we listened in on UN transmissions. You'd be surprised how much the New Yorkers picked up. But imagine our surprise when we hear that an attack on Alaska is in the works to establish a beach head to push south and east though the US and Canada. We knew how dense enemy coverage was up there. Sure we'd heard some stories of the Red Warrior from the guys up in Oregon, but nobody bought it.

H: Is that so? I'll ask you about that later, but what did the Alaska Offensive have to do with anything?

R: It had everything to do with it. We couldn't get our intel to you, if we tried to transmit to the base in Newfoundland New York would've been left hanging in the breeze. So instead we decided to fight a diversion. That diversion was the attack on San Francisco Breach.

R: We managed to cobble together twenty thousand people. Fifteen thousand combat troops with five thousand in support, all with nanite enhancements and genetic modifications. We went home with a tenth of that.

H: Nanite and gene modification?

R: Yeah, standard stuff, improved digestion, respiration, immune system, and higher efficiency muscle tissue. Most of the stuff was researched by Cal tech over here back before things went to hell. I'll tell you straight, we and Nevadans had some false starts with the tech. Wound up killing a good number of the volunteers, but in the end they had a small army of Captain Americas.

H: Do you know how they did it?

R: I haven't the foggiest. That was one the the higher-ups always held close to the chest. Sure they gave us armor and gene mods but they didn't tell us how they worked. Looking back, they probably thought we'd decline if we knew the full extent of what could happen.

H: So what happened during the assault?

R: I have no idea. I jumped out of the Avenger, hit the ground running, then next thing I know I'm in San Diego Bunker with the roof coming down at me. Fucking Manhunters, damn things are fucking relentless.

H: Manhunters?

R: Yeah, the big shiny assholes that don't die when you slice them in half. They have adaptive metal armor, an impeller field, and can reconfigure their arms and head into particle cannons and a plasma caster respectively. I don't know how, but they can always sniff us out. We've lost entire bunkers to them. Taught us real quick to not clump everyone up if they don't have a Valk to babysit them.

H: The gauss rifles don't work on them?

R: The gauss rifles could make a dent. A shoulder mounted ULPC could punch through the armor and its impeller, but the only guaranteed way to kill a Manhunter was with a Shark missile or Ball Launcher. Two problems with that though. Sharks are the size of a telephone pole and the Ball was really only a way to finish it off for good, not actually stop it.

H: Did particle cannons not work?

R: Were you listening? Ultra light particle cannons could punch through but they almost never did catastrophic damage unless they hit a power source. LPCs like what we could mount on trucks or MPCs on the Strikers and Bradleys fared somewhat better. But it was really only Valk level particle weapons that could shred one with a single hit. Most of the time it came down to praying the RIC-45s could hit the carriers and base defense would stop the Manhunters.

H: About the RIC-45s, how did they come about?

R: The rocket chairs? Easy, we needed something cheap and simple to build that could catch an enemy hyperjet at fifty thousand feet. Some WWII buff brought up the Me 263 and the X planes. All of them went insanely fast for their time, all of them were rocket powered, and since the Southwest had no shortage of rocket parts and fuel we had supplies ready and waiting. In the end, we got a reusable ground launch rocket interceptor that had a top speed of Mach 12 and accelerated so fast that it would leave pilots as a fine paste without all the safety gear, mostly thanks to Valk improvements on the design.

R: Let me tell ya'. It's a hell of a sight to see one takeoff. Little pop, whooshing noise, then it sounds like the god of thunder is throwing a temper tantrum. Anything else you want to ask me? It's almost chow time.

H: No, we can wrap up here for today.

R: Thanks, it'll be nice to eat something other than nutrient paste for once.

-End Transcript-
 
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Interviewer: William Hershel, UNOMI
Interviewee: SGT David Rodriguez, 1-144th Field Artillery
FOB "Trident" - Sacramento 1800

-Begin Transcript-

Hershel: Tell me about San Francisco.

Rodriguez: Heh, what's to tell? We threw every asset on the west coast we had at it, and bounced off without even scratching the paint. The Nevadans got broken in half. The Mormons limped away with ten people at most. Arizona lost their vehicles. You name them, they got eaten alive by the enemy's defenses. It was a suicide mission and we knew it. Still hurts though.

H: If it was a suicide mission, then why commit?

R: Are you asking stupid questions just because?

H: No, and please answer the question.

R: Fine, we were doing it for you useless pukes.

H: Oh?

R: Yeah, we did. The enemy may zero in on over air transmissions, but they didn't notice the miles of fiber running underground. After we rebuilt the facilities to actually use the cable, we had reliable communication all the way out to New York.

R: From New York we listened in on UN transmissions. You'd be surprised how much the New Yorkers picked up. But imagine our surprise when we hear that an attack on Alaska is in the works to establish a beach head to push south and east though the US and Canada. We knew how dense enemy coverage was up there. Sure we'd heard some stories of the Red Warrior from the guys up in Oregon, but nobody bought it.

H: Is that so? I'll ask you about that later, but what did the Alaska Offensive have to do with anything?

R: It had everything to do with it. We couldn't get our intel to you, if we tried to transmit to the base in Newfoundland New York would've been left hanging in the breeze. So instead we decided to fight a diversion. That diversion was the attack on San Francisco Breach.

R: We managed to cobble together twenty thousand people. Fifteen thousand combat troops with five thousand in support, all with nanite enhancements and genetic modifications. We went home with a tenth of that.

H: Nanite and gene modification?

R: Yeah, standard stuff, improved digestion, respiration, immune system, and higher efficiency muscle tissue. Most of the stuff was researched by Cal tech over here back before things went to hell. I'll tell you straight, we and Nevadans had some false starts with the tech. Wound up killing a good number of the volunteers, but in the end they had a small army of Captain Americas.

H: Do you know how they did it?

R: I haven't the foggiest. That was one the the higher-ups always held close to the chest. Sure they gave us armor and gene mods but they didn't tell us how they worked. Looking back, they probably thought we'd decline if we knew the full extent of what could happen.

H: So what happened during the assault?

R: I have no idea. I jumped out of the Avenger, hit the ground running, then next thing I know I'm in San Diego Bunker with the roof coming down at me. Fucking Manhunters, damn things are fucking relentless.

H: Manhunters?

R: Yeah, the big shiny assholes that don't die when you slice them in half. They have adaptive metal armor, an impeller field, and can reconfigure their arms and head into particle cannons and a plasma caster respectively. I don't know how, but they can always sniff us out. We've lost entire bunkers to them. Taught us real quick to not clump everyone up if they don't have a Valk to babysit them.

H: The gauss rifles don't work on them?

R: The gauss rifles could make a dent. A shoulder mounted ULPC could punch through the armor and its impeller, but the only guaranteed way to kill a Manhunter was with a Shark missile or Ball Launcher. Two problems with that though. Sharks are the size of a telephone pole and the Ball was really only a way to finish it off for good, not actually stop it.

H: Did particle cannons not work?

R: Were you listening? Ultra light particle cannons could punch through but they almost never did catastrophic damage unless they hit a power source. LPCs like what we could mount on trucks or MPCs on the Strikers and Bradleys fared somewhat better. But it was really only Valk level particle weapons that could shred one with a single hit. Most of the time it came down to praying the RIC-45s could hit the carriers and base defense would stop the Manhunters.

H: About the RIC-45s, how did they come about?

R: The rocket chairs? Easy, we needed something cheap and simple to build that could catch an enemy hyperjet at fifty thousand feet. Some WWII buff brought up the Me 263 and the X planes. All of them went insanely fast for their time, all of them were rocket powered, and since the Southwest had no shortage of rocket parts and fuel we had supplies ready and waiting. In the end, we got a reusable ground launch rocket interceptor that had a top speed of Mach 12 and accelerated so fast that it would leave pilots as a fine paste without all the safety gear, mostly thanks to Valk improvements on the design.

R: Let me tell ya'. It's a hell of a sight to see one takeoff. Little pop, whooshing noise, then it sounds like the god of thunder is throwing a temper tantrum. Anything else you want to ask me? It's almost chow time.

H: No, we can wrap up here for today.

R: Thanks, it'll be nice to eat something other than nutrient paste for once.

-End Transcript-
These are quite good, do you have a name for this little continuity you've got or should I leave the threadmarks as is?
 
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