Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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[X]Plan Resolving Economic Shortfalls With Liquidity Surpluses
[X] Plan Big Bucks, Capgoods, Free Food and no Loans
[X]Plan Hi, Name is Lito I Promise I am not Tito, Gib Loan (Garbo edition)
 
[X]Plan Hi, Name is Lito I Promise I am not Tito, Gib Loan (Garbo edition)
[X]Plan Resolving Economic Shortfalls With Drill Baby Drill

I am coming around to the Drill Baby Drill plan, it doesn't do garbo but I like how it focuses on getting profitable stuff up-front, and takes the coin flip on the truck plant with how expensive HI dice are.
 
I don't know why so many QMs don't mention when they're making a new quest in the ones they're already writing, just in case someone wants to follow them.

...that said

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Medicinal Crucible: A Xianxia Planquest Original

Play as a small pill refining sect in a massive empire, try not to piss off anyone bigger then you, and make money with pills to invest into better pills.


Blackstar is trying a xianxia quest!



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[X]Plan Hi, Name is Lito I Promise I am not Tito, Gib Loan (Garbo edition)
 
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My justification is pretty simple: Completing a second oil project is going to give us much greater returns than a single dice on water a turn earlier, or agronomy institutes kicking in a year sooner. The extra 40R should easily pay off as soon as next turn.
Are you sure about the agronomy institutes? I get the sense that having those is going to be pretty important to doing good projects that will have good effects on reforming agriculture to hit our target.
 
Time Magazine 1951 Man of the Year - Maksim Litvinov

Litvinov is my hero. A fitting monument to his greatness IMO.

Not really sure about what to vote for yet. So many important reforms and so little political capital.

With regards to the space program, I am not super keen to cut the Venera funding - the OTL Venera program was a total tour de force and the TTL Soviet Union can do all that and more. Also, the technology needed for a lander on the Venusian surface will be quite useful for chemical industry which also involve keeping high temperatures and pressures from destroying electronics, only in chemical industry the pressures and temperatures are inside, not outside the pressure shell and the electronics are gathering information to more precisely control the reaction.

On the other hand, the manned program could make good use of the added resources so cancelling Venera wouldn't be terrible either. I just don't think it would be the ideal use of resources.

Also, fellow space nerds might enjoy this youtube video:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSK7rUSnFK4

It has some minor errors, but in general it is a pretty good overview of the Soviet side of the early space race, especially on a systemic level. Plus, after our failure in the moon race, it was pretty comforting to me how many historic problems we avoided.

Regards,

fasquardon
 
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Made that "stop doing" meme for the planquest format lol
I have some cranky things to say about CK2 quests, but I'll hold my tongue. "no real world use found for central planning" oof that's a burn.
Litvinov is my hero. A fitting monument to his greatness IMO.

Not really sure about what to vote for yet. So many important reforms and so little political capital.

With regards to the space program, I am not super keen to cut the Venera funding - the OTL Venera program was a total tour de force and the TTL Soviet Union can do all that and more. Also, the technology needed for a lander on the Venusian surface will be quite useful for chemical industry which also involve keeping high temperatures and pressures from destroying electronics, only in chemical industry the pressures and temperatures are inside, not outside the pressure shell and the electronics are gathering information to more precisely control the reaction.

On the other hand, the manned program could make good use of the added resources so cancelling Venera wouldn't be terrible either. I just don't think it would be the ideal use of resources.

Also, fellow space nerds might enjoy this youtube video:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSK7rUSnFK4

It has some minor errors, but in general it is a pretty good overview of the Soviet side of the early space race, especially on a systemic level. Plus, after our failure in the moon race, it was pretty comforting to me how many historic problems we avoided.

Regards,

fasquardon

The manned program is on hold this plan thanks to our vote after cancelling the moonshot so I don't think we can transfer Venera funding to it. We'll probably get one more launch this plan, we'll see how that goes. If the engineers fail to make adaptations for the Venusian atmosphere, might as well drop it in the 9th plan.

Did information from the venus probes of OTL get transferred to industry, or otherwise hit on developments industry made later?

Thanks for the vid, interesting but it's an hour long. Could you please summarize the main points regarding where we avoided OTL's problems?
 
The manned program is on hold this plan thanks to our vote after cancelling the moonshot so I don't think we can transfer Venera funding to it.

See the underlined:

[]Approve Transfer of Venusian Funding: The Venus project faces immense technical challenges with the state of the atmosphere and severe issues facing the program. Rather than continuing on as is and shoveling more funding towards a program that is unlikely to work the funds can instead be partially committed towards working on manned and lunar programs. Those offer the highest return and scrapping the entire venus project until more funds are available is one of the ways to secure politically acceptable funding. (1 Dice)

We'd end Venusian exploration for a time and raise the manned and Lunar budgets.

Also, we do have a manned program, it's just currently the cut-down VA capsule, the left-overs from previous manned capsules and the start of Intercosmos.

Did information from the venus probes of OTL get transferred to industry, or otherwise hit on developments industry made later?

I believe they did, but I can't remember where I read that and it sounds wrong to me, given the general problems with excessive secrecy in the Soviet system, so I suspect I am mis-remembering.

However, last year Klim established a program to transfer space program tech to the civilian economy. So pursuing Venera further for us would have a useful spin-offs.

Thanks for the vid, interesting but it's an hour long. Could you please summarize the main points regarding where we avoided OTL's problems?

The OTL Soviet Union took risks to maintain the unexpected propaganda "lead" after Sputnik and often launched missions before they were fully prepared resulting in beating the Americans to things, only for the Americans to launch something far more capable some months later which in turn lead to the Soviets losing ground in the larger race.

Sophisticated probes and manned programs like the moon program and the space station program don't work well if they are being rushed out the door to hit political anniversaries or to beat the other guy.

And while our program hasn't enjoyed as many big firsts as the OTL Soviets, our more capability-oriented program together with the larger resources we put into the probe programs has resulted in a very strong performance compared to the OTL Soviet program.

And even the manned program is probably ahead, though maybe not for long with our current hyper-probe focus.

Regards,

fasquardon
 
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[X]Plan Resolving Economic Shortfalls With Liquidity Surpluses
-[X]Infrastructure (9/9 dice + 1 Free) 975 Resources
--[X]Western USSR Regional Roads, 3 dice (255R) 41%
--[X]Ural Region High Capacity Roads, 2 dice (170R) 78%
--[X]Water Distribution Systems(Stage 7), 1 die (100R) 0%
--[X]Unified Canal System(Step 2 of 3), 1 die (70R) 32%
--[X]Power Grid Expansions, 2 dice (160R) 0%
--[X]ASU, 1 die (220R) 91%
-[X]Heavy Industry (5/5 dice) 760 Resources
--[X]Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 1), 1 die (120R) 0%
--[X]Nikolayev Automotive Plant, 2 dice (320R) 38%
--[X]Bryansk Truck Plant, 2 dice (320R) 73%
-[X]Rocketry (2/2 dice) 200 Resources
--[X]Stalingrad Plant Expansion, 1 die (200R) 56%
--[X]Publicly Provide Atmospheric Information, 1 die
-[X]Light and Chemical Industry (6/6 dice + 1 Free) 760 Resources
--[X]Samotor Field Development(Stage 1), 2 dice (240R) 57%
--[X]Air Conditioner Plants(Stage 4), 1 die (100R) 95%
--[X]Modern Foods Production(Stage 1), 3 dice (270R) 75%
--[X]Second Generation Plastics(Stage 2), 1 die (150R) 65%
-[X]Agriculture (6/6 dice + 2 Free) 900 Resources
--[X]Domestic Meat Programs(Stage 2), 4 dice (440R) 76%? Stage 3
--[X]Agronomy Institutes, 1 die (100R) 29%
--[X]Agricultural Insurance Enterprises, 2 dice (240R) 57%
--[X]Second Generation Seed Program, 1 die (120R) 29%
-[X]Services (10/10 dice) 960 Resources
--[X]Distribution of Banking Branches, 2 dice (160R) 61%
--[X]Expanded Childcare(Stage 3), 2 dice (140R) 62%
--[X]Transportation Enterprises(Stage 1), 2 dice (220R) 74%
--[X]Legal Consulting Programs, 1 die (80R) 14%
--[X]Hotel-Enterprises, 3 dice (360R) 69%
-[X]Bureaucracy (8/8 dice) 0 Resources
--[X]Unified Passport Zone, 1 SupSov die
--[X]Resumption of Punishments, 1 SupSov die
--[X]Codify Convertability, 1 SupSov die
--[X]An Expanded Food Program, 1 die
--[X]Start a Commission on Agriculture, 1 die
--[X]Call a Second General Meeting, 1 die
--[X]Request a Loan, 1 die
--[X]Dedicate Focus Towards a Project (Domestic Meat Programs), 1 SupSov die (unrolled)
-[X]Total Cost: 4555R/5970R, 1415R reserved, 49 dice rolled

Rolling
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 531
6 6 1 1 2 2 10 10 59 59 29 29 88 88 51 51 98 98 47 47 40 40 100 100
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 578
47 47 31 31 21 21 63 63 88 88 23 23 6 6 2 2 98 98 77 77 92 92 30 30
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 587
51 51 63 63 9 9 74 74 33 33 86 86 38 38 87 87 7 7 51 51 33 33 55 55
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 562
81 81 25 25 21 21 36 36 77 77 20 20 83 83 14 14 86 86 43 43 10 10 66 66
Blackstar threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Dice Total: 98
98 98
Blackstar threw 10 100-faced dice. Reason: Internal Total: 672
94 94 83 83 83 83 30 30 51 51 70 70 79 79 42 42 59 59 81 81
Blackstar threw 12 100-faced dice. Reason: External Total: 577
15 15 8 8 86 86 51 51 57 57 42 42 62 62 57 57 63 63 52 52 71 71 13 13
Blackstar threw 3 100-faced dice. Reason: Anti Corruption Total: 63
53 53 8 8 2 2
 
RIP Regional Roads of the western USSR, was good to know you...

Edit: realy rough calc gives a average of 47.11, dats not what we needed lol
edit edit: I think it is the auto plant that got the nat 100, so thats nice!
 
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Dice average: 48.08163265306123


Western USSR Regional Roads 112+(3*8)+6+1+2=145/300 (Nat 1) (Nat 2)(41.06%/52.25%)
Ural Region High Capacity Roads 316+(2*8)+10+59=401/400(77.89%/86.74%)
Water Distribution Systems(Stage 7) 2+(1*8)+29=39/350
Unified Canal System(Step 2 of 3) 273+(1*8)+88=369/350(32.00%/47.00%)
Power Grid Expansions 0+(2*8)+51+98=165/275
ASU 132+(1*8)+47=187/150(91.00%/100.00%)

Kuzbas Deposit Exploitation(Stage 3) 47+(1*-7)+40=80/200
Nikolayev Automotive Plant 0+(2*-7)+100+47=133/100 (Nat 100)(38.28%/52.47%)
Bryansk Truck Plant 89+(2*-7)+31+21=127/150(72.99%/82.89%)

Stalingrad Plant Expansions 52+(1*3)+63=118/100(56.00%/71.00%)
Publicly Provide Atmospheric Information (1*-8)+88=80

Samotor Field Development(Stage 1) 0+(2*3)+23+6=35/100(57.22%/69.97%)
Air Conditioner Plants(Stage 4) 166+(1*3)+2=171/175 (Nat 2) (omake?)(95.00%/100.00%)
Modern Foods Production(Stage 1) 0+(3*3)+98+77+92=276/125 (2x target)(75.45%/83.83%)
Second Generation Plastics(Stage 2) 136+(1*3)+30=169/175 (omake?)(65.00%/80.00%)

Domestic Meat Programs(Stage 2) 133+(4*8)+51+63+9+74=362/150 (2x target)(100.00%/100.00%)
Agronomy Institutes 0+(1*3)+33=36/75(29.00%/44.00%)
Agricultural Insurance Enterprises 0+(2*3)+86+38=130/100(57.22%/69.97%)
Second Generation Seed Program 0+(1*3)+87=90/75(29.00%/44.00%)

Distribution of Banking Branches 34+(2*13)+7+51=118/150(60.84%/72.99%)
Expanded Childcare(Stage 3) 85+(2*13)+33+55=199/200 (omake?)(61.72%/73.72%)
Transportation Enterprises(Stage 1) 50+(2*13)+81+25=182/150(73.72%/83.47%)
Legal Consulting Programs 0+(1*13)+21=34/100(14.00%/29.00%)
Hotel-Enterprises 35+(3*13)+36+77+20=207/200(68.91%/78.45%)

Unified Passport Zone (1*-8)+83=75
Resumption of Punishments (1*-8)+14=6
Codify Convertibility (1*-8)+86=78
An Expanded Food Program (1*-8)+43=35
Start a Commission on Agriculture (1*-8)+10=2
Call a Second General Meeting (1*-8)+66=58
Request a Loan (1*-8)+98=90
Total cost: 4555 R
 
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