Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition
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well at least we got our money?
Probably all gonna be spent fixing roads lol
This is very nice, perhaps we invented a new cool car?
Rip, guess we're either postponing or just not? Or it came back with real bad news? (new Weevils infecting all our crops?)
RNGesus does not want the soviet people to be comfy in their homes.
I'd argue our committee we can use to justify our decisions just got smacked down for being exactly what it is. Either that or the agronomists we recruited are having a fight to death over agriculture.
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
Agriculture and anti corruption just keeps getting shafted when it comes to the bureaucracy actions. Nothing can defeat Soviet corruption.
I think these should be our new prices, approximately?
Coal: 53 (+5)
Steel: 33 (+6)
Non-Ferrous: 67 (+2)
Petroleum Fuels: 35 (+6) (oopsie CMEA prices probably crossed 40)
Petrochemicals: 41 (-1)
General Labor: 36-37? (+7-8?)
Educated Labor: 45 (+4)
Coal, steel, and fuel are all getting dangerously close to higher breakpoints. We might actually need 1-2 free dice in HI to keep steel prices below 40, which is pretty important since crossing 40 would detonate our budget right when the loan money is starting to thin out. We may have to leave Bryansk intentionally unfinished to not pay the +3 Steel price if we want to pursue Sevastopol machinery plants next turn, or put multiple free dice into the Kursk steel mill to meet demand... which would push coal into the range of crossing 60 before Kuzbas can come online, damnit. That's going to be tricky to navigate.
Labor is also making major gains in wages, even if growth slows there's still a solid chance that General Labor breaks 40 within 1-2 years. Which would be good for discontent and domestic economic demand, but bad for the state budget/export revenues directly. Fun times inbound in the late 60s, it looks like, we're going to have to be very intentional with our price breakpoints.
Coal: 53 (+5)
Steel: 33 (+6)
Non-Ferrous: 67 (+2)
Petroleum Fuels: 35 (+6) (oopsie CMEA prices probably crossed 40)
Petrochemicals: 41 (-1)
General Labor: 36-37? (+7-8?)
Educated Labor: 45 (+4)
Coal, steel, and fuel are all getting dangerously close to higher breakpoints. We might actually need 1-2 free dice in HI to keep steel prices below 40, which is pretty important since crossing 40 would detonate our budget right when the loan money is starting to thin out. We may have to leave Bryansk intentionally unfinished to not pay the +3 Steel price if we want to pursue Sevastopol machinery plants next turn, or put multiple free dice into the Kursk steel mill to meet demand... which would push coal into the range of crossing 60 before Kuzbas can come online, damnit. That's going to be tricky to navigate.
Labor is also making major gains in wages, even if growth slows there's still a solid chance that General Labor breaks 40 within 1-2 years. Which would be good for discontent and domestic economic demand, but bad for the state budget/export revenues directly. Fun times inbound in the late 60s, it looks like, we're going to have to be very intentional with our price breakpoints.
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I love this return to the Sergo/Mikoyan era.
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Ah fuck, our roads. The continual fumbling of road projects is going to be a meme in certain circles of our USSR in the future. All of our new loan money is about to go straight into fixing whatever got fucked up there.
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The commission was never meant to actually do anything but be a mouthpiece, it basically entirely failed and litterally everyone did not want to give you another stick given how HI went.
It's a good thing we now have reason to appease it, I suppose.
@Blackstar how does sitting exactly at a price breakpoint work? Specifically I'm wondering about coal, if we do a steel mill that would drive prices above 60 but also complete the Kuzbas, lowering the price to 60, what effects does that have on the economy? 40-60 is the "no special effects" range and 60-80 is the "things are starting to get expensive effects" range but what about being parked at exactly 60 where the bands overlap? Do we get the no effects or the expensive effects?
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It's worse than it looks. Both Bryansk and Samotor didn't complete, so that's two big money makers we won't have next turn.
Welp folks step right up because we just got our very first double crit fail! After that some double critwins, it's about time. But come on. ROADS. Perhaps the most basic construction project we can do, how the fuck do you critfail that, let alone DOUBLE fail it? Did some replacement personnel prove incompetent and we rolled out a fundamentally flawed design that'll get washed away?[1] Are we gonna have to spend 8 dice a turn on roads to not get fired? Did SupSov intervene with some galaxy brained shit that forces up to waste resource on some hideously inefficient network layout?
[1]Given one of the critical fails was due to anti-corruption's expanded crit range, it would make sense for that sort of oversight to be part of what goes wrong.
Welp folks step right up because we just got our very first double crit fail! After that some double critwins, it's about time. But come on. ROADS. Perhaps the most basic construction project we can do, how the fuck do you critfail that, let alone DOUBLE fail it? Did some replacement personnel prove incompetent and we rolled out a fundamentally flawed design that'll get washed away?[1] Are we gonna have to spend 8 dice a turn on roads to not get fired? Did SupSov intervene with some galaxy brained shit that forces up to waste resource on some hideously inefficient network layout?
[1]Given one of the critical fails was due to anti-corruption's expanded crit range, it would make sense for that sort of oversight to be part of what goes wrong.
Thanks for catching that. For fuel we can just rush both fields next turn, but the other two, dang thank you for pointing the steel situation out! I thought we'd be safe for a bit, but instead we need to either rush a steel mill next turn or put the Bryansk plant on hold. We can at least start Sevastopol on one dice, it won't complete but will get development started at least. We could cram in Donbass or Pechora coal, but it may be better to endure high coal prices for one turn. Certainly, it's less bad than suffering increase infra costs from rising steel prices!
Aye, we're rolling several ministries with tiny or outright negative modifiers and it will continue next turn! Not since the early thirties have we had the experience of an unlucky project flat out not getting ANYWHERE because we couldn't find competent people in the chaos.
Who is "everyone", was the result of our bust of the HI price fixing ring not popular? I figured the supsov would be proud of our anti-corruption.
As always, there's a very fine line between "popular anti-corruption measure" and "dangerous Stalinist overreach intended to attack political opponents", and that line shifts depending on how protective SupSov delegates feel of their own patronage networks.
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"Most people expect heroes to look a certain way, you know like in the movies or on the television. Fit and strong, handsome and able to shrug off pain while the heroine looks on. I would have never expected some one like Miron, all 1.8 meters and 75 kilograms to be someone who helps uncover corruption, mistreatment of workers, misallocation of state resources and so on. No one expected a Deputy Accountant to cause this much chaos, and the girl, well, I am getting ahead of myself. So sit with me and I will tell you a story, would you mind buying me a beer, it has been a long day."
"Thank You."
"So. I knew Miron Matveev personally since he is my cousin on the paternal side. His father died during the war, so he and his mother came to live with us. We went to the same school, were in the Pioneers and so on. He was always the quiet kid, more interested in books and math than I was. He was always the last to be picked in physical games but when people needed help with schoolwork, he was the person to see. Even the girls felt safe around him since he would run if any girl tried to romance him. I always thought he would be some sort of scientist but his mother wanted him to be an Accountant. So he went to school, graduated top of his class and gets his draft notice. You know where he served? The Quartermaster Corps! Now, I could not imagine him carrying a rifle or commanding a tank, but I expected a more technical branch. What a world.
So after I served in the Army I got a job at a factory #309 making military uniforms. I worked on the loading dock, moving fabric and uniforms around the flood. It was not the most exciting job but the pay was good. My wife and her family worked at the factory so they put in a good word for me. So I am working when I hear that the Deputy Account retired due to age and there was a new young man in the office, which excited many of the women there I could tell you. Then I see him, tall and thin with curly blond hair trimmed short, looking the same as he did in the Pioneers."
"It was Miron"
"Thank You."
"So. I knew Miron Matveev personally since he is my cousin on the paternal side. His father died during the war, so he and his mother came to live with us. We went to the same school, were in the Pioneers and so on. He was always the quiet kid, more interested in books and math than I was. He was always the last to be picked in physical games but when people needed help with schoolwork, he was the person to see. Even the girls felt safe around him since he would run if any girl tried to romance him. I always thought he would be some sort of scientist but his mother wanted him to be an Accountant. So he went to school, graduated top of his class and gets his draft notice. You know where he served? The Quartermaster Corps! Now, I could not imagine him carrying a rifle or commanding a tank, but I expected a more technical branch. What a world.
So after I served in the Army I got a job at a factory #309 making military uniforms. I worked on the loading dock, moving fabric and uniforms around the flood. It was not the most exciting job but the pay was good. My wife and her family worked at the factory so they put in a good word for me. So I am working when I hear that the Deputy Account retired due to age and there was a new young man in the office, which excited many of the women there I could tell you. Then I see him, tall and thin with curly blond hair trimmed short, looking the same as he did in the Pioneers."
"It was Miron"
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Was it intended to be a typical russian name?
Multiple given names are atypical, and there's no patronymic (if the second name was intended to be one, it should have been "Borisovich").
Also, it seems your omake cuts off unexpectedly.
Cannon Omake: The Moscow incident through the prism of the American press
Terminator57
Southern trees bear a strange fruit
Here's a new omake called "The Moscow incident through the prism of the American press". I hope you enjoy reading this little work.
The Soviets revolt against their corrupt government !
Our reporter Mathias Sampson, who initially came to Moscow to report on the transformations underway in the modernizing Soviet capital, undoubtedly witnessed the first breaches in the monolith of oppression constituted by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, under popular pressure demanding a real and profound democratization of Soviet political and social life.
On August 17, 1965, our journalist witnessed a huge crowd of Muscovites marching towards the centers of Soviet power. Although peaceful, the march was nonetheless accompanied by numerous slogans shouted by the crowd and written on crudely assembled placards. Based on these elements and a few anonymous testimonials collected from proud Soviet democrats, our journalist was able to glean some information about the reasons behind this spontaneous movement. This citizens' march is mainly a denunciation of the system by the denunciation of the endemic corruption reigning at the top of the Soviet government, and of how little regard this same government has for the opinions and real situation of Soviet citizens living in Moscow. Indeed, for several years now, the latter have been grappling with massive changes in their living environment and feel that the fruits of growth are very unevenly distributed between the Soviet elites and the humble rank-and-file workers. As a result, they are calling for a better distribution of growth, and for Soviet citizens' grievances to be better addressed by their government.
Moreover, the reason for this demonstration was not solely one of social justice, since the people interviewed reported galloping inflation in the face of insufficient or even stagnant wages: thus sharply reducing their standard of living and purchasing power.
Nevertheless, the Soviet government was quick to react with its usual brutality to any movement of democratization within the "people's democracies", as our journalist witnessed a massive deployment of military and police personnel whose aim was undoubtedly to repress this courageous march in accordance with Politburo orders. Despite this menacing deployment of force, the Soviet civilians did not lose their cool, as they were content to occupy the ground in front of the forces of the Soviet repressive apparatus before dispersing in the days that followed. It is also important to note that the police forces did not stand idly by, as they proceeded to brutally arrest several dozen protesters, who are no doubt still being tortured to extract information from them at the time of writing.
Faced with this very real desire for change on the part of Muscovites and, no doubt, other Soviet citizens, the Soviet government was forced to react strongly in favor of purchasing power with a significant wage increase - announced in the wake of this protest in Pravda. The same can be said of corruption, since the Soviet government will no doubt have to order tougher, more thorough anti-corruption investigations and even heavy prison sentences to keep Soviet citizens happy.
Despite these efforts, this event will have weakened the already tenuous bond of trust between the Soviet elites and their population, according to our specialist on Soviet realities Tristan Russo, and it cannot be ruled out that the Communist Party's grip will waver even further if the fight against corruption does not sufficiently live up to the population's expectations, or if the significant growth hitherto experienced by the Soviet Union were to stall or even turn negative - thus accentuating the day-to-day difficulties of the Soviet people.
Liam Byrd, Chicago Tribune, August 20, 1965
The Soviets revolt against their corrupt government !
Our reporter Mathias Sampson, who initially came to Moscow to report on the transformations underway in the modernizing Soviet capital, undoubtedly witnessed the first breaches in the monolith of oppression constituted by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, under popular pressure demanding a real and profound democratization of Soviet political and social life.
On August 17, 1965, our journalist witnessed a huge crowd of Muscovites marching towards the centers of Soviet power. Although peaceful, the march was nonetheless accompanied by numerous slogans shouted by the crowd and written on crudely assembled placards. Based on these elements and a few anonymous testimonials collected from proud Soviet democrats, our journalist was able to glean some information about the reasons behind this spontaneous movement. This citizens' march is mainly a denunciation of the system by the denunciation of the endemic corruption reigning at the top of the Soviet government, and of how little regard this same government has for the opinions and real situation of Soviet citizens living in Moscow. Indeed, for several years now, the latter have been grappling with massive changes in their living environment and feel that the fruits of growth are very unevenly distributed between the Soviet elites and the humble rank-and-file workers. As a result, they are calling for a better distribution of growth, and for Soviet citizens' grievances to be better addressed by their government.
Moreover, the reason for this demonstration was not solely one of social justice, since the people interviewed reported galloping inflation in the face of insufficient or even stagnant wages: thus sharply reducing their standard of living and purchasing power.
Nevertheless, the Soviet government was quick to react with its usual brutality to any movement of democratization within the "people's democracies", as our journalist witnessed a massive deployment of military and police personnel whose aim was undoubtedly to repress this courageous march in accordance with Politburo orders. Despite this menacing deployment of force, the Soviet civilians did not lose their cool, as they were content to occupy the ground in front of the forces of the Soviet repressive apparatus before dispersing in the days that followed. It is also important to note that the police forces did not stand idly by, as they proceeded to brutally arrest several dozen protesters, who are no doubt still being tortured to extract information from them at the time of writing.
Faced with this very real desire for change on the part of Muscovites and, no doubt, other Soviet citizens, the Soviet government was forced to react strongly in favor of purchasing power with a significant wage increase - announced in the wake of this protest in Pravda. The same can be said of corruption, since the Soviet government will no doubt have to order tougher, more thorough anti-corruption investigations and even heavy prison sentences to keep Soviet citizens happy.
Despite these efforts, this event will have weakened the already tenuous bond of trust between the Soviet elites and their population, according to our specialist on Soviet realities Tristan Russo, and it cannot be ruled out that the Communist Party's grip will waver even further if the fight against corruption does not sufficiently live up to the population's expectations, or if the significant growth hitherto experienced by the Soviet Union were to stall or even turn negative - thus accentuating the day-to-day difficulties of the Soviet people.
Liam Byrd, Chicago Tribune, August 20, 1965
Yeah and that is frankly the surprising thing about it. The content was accurate to what was going on and why the Moscow incident happened with very little exaggeration and lies. The only questionable thing, as said, was the title of the article.
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Must be an in-universe left wing American paper. Can only imagine how much the right wing papers are exaggerating/fabricating what's happened.
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Wasn't the Chicago Tribune a rather conservative newspaper at the time according to Wikipedia at the time? It was anti-New Deal and and greatly enthusiastic for Chiang Kai-shek and Sen. Joseph McCarthy.
Lurking_Badger
Cheese Enjoyer
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The protesters were shot. The families of the protesters were shot. People that sold them perogies were shot.
The spirit of Stalin is alive and well in the USSR.
Edit: This is a joke.
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we could take the lower number of outright lies and accusation as a sign that there's not quite as much hate between the countries as in the original timeline.
Also, you know, the truth is good enough that they don't really need to lie about it, and if they went further and predicted an imminent collapse and then nothing happened it would probably be a hit to the newspaper's reputation.
As a reminder, we were told that while they always talk about our "being undemocratic" and the lack of certain civil rights, we hit back just as hard with how many homeless and poor people they have, the lack of universal healthcare, Segregation and treatment of the black people, and so on.
oh, and of course we both definitely accuse the other about foreign policy, but that's a given
Also, you know, the truth is good enough that they don't really need to lie about it, and if they went further and predicted an imminent collapse and then nothing happened it would probably be a hit to the newspaper's reputation.
As a reminder, we were told that while they always talk about our "being undemocratic" and the lack of certain civil rights, we hit back just as hard with how many homeless and poor people they have, the lack of universal healthcare, Segregation and treatment of the black people, and so on.
oh, and of course we both definitely accuse the other about foreign policy, but that's a given
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Yup
Not the first time they've appeared in this quest!