[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition
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[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
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- Reno
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- They/Them
[X]Nina Ivanovna Nikonova
[X] Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
[X] Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
- Location
- Italy
[x]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
Virgil lands lady actually tempted me a lot. A competent woman with exemplary conduct... but we're likely to have some turbulent times in the next few years, so I went for a more "stable" candidate with lower potential for disasters.
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
the lady here also tempted me a lot, but I do believe that in a few years to a decade we might want to really expand the service sector as there could certainly be advantages from economies of scale that the private sector wouldn't be able to take advantage of (don't they still have a max 100 employees limit?), so he seems like a good depiuty to choose in preparation for that.
Virgil lands lady actually tempted me a lot. A competent woman with exemplary conduct... but we're likely to have some turbulent times in the next few years, so I went for a more "stable" candidate with lower potential for disasters.
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
the lady here also tempted me a lot, but I do believe that in a few years to a decade we might want to really expand the service sector as there could certainly be advantages from economies of scale that the private sector wouldn't be able to take advantage of (don't they still have a max 100 employees limit?), so he seems like a good depiuty to choose in preparation for that.
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Kosygin got rid of the limit actually, but the private sector still suffers from economies of scale issues because without stock markets they're limited in ways to draw in investor money.
- Location
- The great frozen north
[X]Nina Ivanovna Nikonova
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
While service person would help there, I remain unconvinced that the service sector transition is going to be ruinous without him and I think the more general bonuses from female representation + rebuilding the soft sciences are a bigger overall advantage to us.
DAMN YOU KOS I HATE YOU NOW. That's it, we're doomed. Unless we see mass popular dissent from hippie boomers or such that coerces the private sector into democratizing, I have no idea how we're ever going to build socialism when the Private Sector has been unchained. Small mercy they don't have the stock market available as a nitrous boost at least. Is the lack of that the only thing stopping the USSR from getting overrun by oligarchs at this point?
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
While service person would help there, I remain unconvinced that the service sector transition is going to be ruinous without him and I think the more general bonuses from female representation + rebuilding the soft sciences are a bigger overall advantage to us.
Huh, could you elaborate there? I figured The Voz's reign over the ministry was pretty much secured and we don't expect major societal/economic upheaval before 1970, what do you think will cause problems that Nina would aggravate?
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DAMN YOU KOS I HATE YOU NOW. That's it, we're doomed. Unless we see mass popular dissent from hippie boomers or such that coerces the private sector into democratizing, I have no idea how we're ever going to build socialism when the Private Sector has been unchained. Small mercy they don't have the stock market available as a nitrous boost at least. Is the lack of that the only thing stopping the USSR from getting overrun by oligarchs at this point?
Did everybody just... not read the updates about our private sector? I thought we knew all these things years ago, the Union hasn't collapsed yet and this is the bed we made as far back as Mikoyan, much less Kosygin.
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- Italy
Well, we're still in cold war mentality, and there's certainly a propaganda war to be fought in the world. Further genocide of natives or ecological disasters might be used against us.
Also we're already going all in on hydro, which IS going to cause ecological problems at some point, so I didn't want to add more risks to that, especially when I'm not 100% certain we'll notice the hidden traps in the options we vote on.
also I'm just a bit worried about that "Harsh in the implementation of programs towards the taming of nature".
We're already pretty harsh, I think. I'm not sure I Want to see what harsh means to her.
[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
since there's much talk of services is there enough resources to the state retail renovations especially with new TVs to sell?
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
since there's much talk of services is there enough resources to the state retail renovations especially with new TVs to sell?
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I mean, it may not be ruinous, but without him as a deputy we won't receive many projects to develop a sector of the economy that will become increasingly important in the future.
It will also mean leaving the sector a further decade to the private sector for them to further their influence without us at least making an effort to establish a state presence in it or develop it more so that we can better handle the transition. Considering that we won't be able to have a new deputy until the 70s and it won't be until the 80s when that person would become Head, that's a lot of time leaving the sector to the private sector.
We also shouldn't rely on being able to nationalize it since we can't do that when the party doesn't consider the sector important compared to the heavy industry or recently the light industry, not to mention the party members that have become part of the private sector or at least benefit from it.
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- US
[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
- Location
- The great frozen north
I see your point. For now I remain hopeful we can reign in her worst impulses, but I'll think more on my vote. I'm set on Lydia. Barring an accidental death or early retirement the next time we chose a deputy is 1973, I'd rather not wait 12 more years to show that the MNKh accepts women in its higher ranks.
As for hydro, that is mainly the Ministry of Infrastructure's job... actually, how intensely siloed are our ministries? If Pyotr wants to give the dam builders some advice on how to minimize damage to fisheries (or just angrily yell at them to stop messing with the environment) are there channels for that to happen or would the ministers have to challenge each other politically or some other weird thing?
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- Italy
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...I really need to catch up on that. I'm just right before turn 5 out of I think 9.
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Just thought people here might be interested. It's her third quest (the second, for those who somehow don't yet know, is basically "sci-fy elves after nuclear near-apocalypse"
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...I really need to catch up on that. I'm just right before turn 5 out of I think 9.
SirLagginton
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- Arrrghhh
[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
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[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
Letting private industry loose was a deal with the devil we made at a time where the goal was less about building socialism and more about keeping the USSR afloat. The Voz is probably not the tool with which we can wrest back control from the private sector/managers, we'llhave to wait for one of his successors, probably. I do seem him helping to build the foundations of a CyberSyn though, so we'll have that.
If I recall correctly from my back reading of the quest, the choice to let the private sector loose was made in part because of the limitations of pre-computer central planning.
[X]Zakhar Ilyich Fainburg
Letting private industry loose was a deal with the devil we made at a time where the goal was less about building socialism and more about keeping the USSR afloat. The Voz is probably not the tool with which we can wrest back control from the private sector/managers, we'llhave to wait for one of his successors, probably. I do seem him helping to build the foundations of a CyberSyn though, so we'll have that.
If I recall correctly from my back reading of the quest, the choice to let the private sector loose was made in part because of the limitations of pre-computer central planning.
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Yeah we straight up didn't have the technology to make central planning work. A limited and heavily regulated private sector was our 'strategic withdrawal' so to speak of take a step back and acknowledging that we simply can't fill in all the cracks ourselves and that this would keep the union afloat by actually giving people a way to sate demand for goods more nimbly than we could.
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- UTC+0
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- He/Him/They
Do note that the Services guy will massively empower managers. All those SoE's he plans to use to dominate the tertiary sector? Run by managers. He will create a whole new class of managers, so I can legit see him becoming a potential sucessor to Voz if the latter doesn't laser him in as a threat and remove him if he eventually becomes minister, since a lot of them will owe their careers to him and form a potent cadre for him to harness in the future if he is politically competent enough. Kind of like how Voz became so influential, from his post as Minister of Heavy Industry.
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- Europe
[X]Igor Alexandrovich Skachkov
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan
- Location
- A haze of forgetfulness
- Pronouns
- She/Her
If we could do stuff like co-ops or democratic central-planning I feel the alarmism would be a lot lesser. We just haven't been given those options yet so people are paranoid about The Managerial Class™️.
[X]Nina Ivanovna Nikonova
[X]Lydia Vasilievna Sokhan