The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
- Location
- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
Hopefully, of course, this stays apocrypha by dint of us stopping the Germans much farther west.
I mean... we did choose one the chief architect of Operation Uranus and the Stalingrad counteroffensive to coordinate military spending with.Hopefully, of course, this stays apocrypha by dint of us stopping the Germans much farther west.
Eh, the DP-28 is fairly mediocre considering it has an awkward magazine, an inability to to be belt fed, and relatively low rate of fire. It's not an aggressively bad gun, but it has a lot of shortcomings we ought to overcome before we go to war with it. I'd kill for the ability to work on the RPD before WW2, and that's something advanced enough we'd need to get started working on it sooner than later.
Realistically, I'm hoping to see us develop something like a RP-46 variant of the DP-27: even better in that it will still have ammo commonality with the SVT-34. Making the DP-27 belt fed and reinforcing the barrel and the bipod shouldn't be too technically challenging.
Yeah, one thing's for sure: we're not gonna sell to the goddamn Nazis. We don't need their fascist-capitalist money, especially as we've industrialized far better and are not short ten million people this time.
Sorry, but might I ask how are we going to 'strangle' the NAZI's economy?
Upon finishing some light reading about this(Wikipedia) I thank you for enlightening me about a whole section of WW2 I didn't know existed, comrade.By buying out all the swedish ores, for example.
Use the forces of market economy against them so that germans have to fight the whole of Europe and become horrifically overextended while we use all this time to build a classical russian steamroller capable of rolling over everything on its' way to Paris.
Part of Molotov-Ribbentrop was that Germany started buying substantial quantities of raw materials from the Soviet Union, rendering the British blockade much less effective throughout 1940 and the first half of 1941. Still reading through my copy of Wages of Destruction and haven't reached its discussion of Barbarossa myself, but IIRC the volume of raw materials the Germans were able to extract from their conquests in the Soviet Union at no point equaled the amount they were being traded pre-Barbarossa.Sorry, but might I ask how are we going to 'strangle' the NAZI's economy?
The thing is we're not fighting the Brits or the Americans. And neither fought the Germans in circumstances as dire as the Soviets. We're fighting the Germans coming in with most of their A-game, and that means we really want the ability to put out suppressing fire the likes of which requires belts.Yes, DP-28 is not nearly comparable to MG-34, but it is a good enough LMG - not that much worse than Bren and better than BAR.
Of course, if we do manage to get PKM in time for WW2, nobody would complain, but it's not the end of the world if we don't.
The thing is we're not fighting the Brits or the Americans. And neither fought the Germans in circumstances as dire as the Soviets. We're fighting the Germans coming in with most of their A-game, and that means we really want the ability to put out suppressing fire the likes of which requires belts.
I don't know why you keep referencing an LMG from the 60s when I'm talking about ones developed in the 40s, but there's a simple solution you obstinately seem to be ignoring the RP-46 is literally just a reinforced DP-27 designed for belts. We could easily refurbish every DP-27 into an RP-46 equivalent on the cheap! And that saves our machine gunners something like ~10 kilograms of ammo weight not having clunky pan magazines. Fixing our machine-guns is vital, and is such obvious low hanging fruit it'd be criminal not to. We chose to play a solid infantry game right now, so let's give them actually competitive tools.
Sure, getting better LMGs would be nice. But not critical, as DP is still serviceable, and your proposed solution would only give us a bit better LMG.
What is actually needed is either getting a good MMG (like SG-43) or GPMG (like PK/PKM). Getting one of those is critical, as right now we have Maxim for an MMG. DP pans being on the heavy side doesn't rate in comparison to that problem, particularly if we unfuck SVT enough to give every conscript one - americans managed well enough with Garands and BARs, after all, and BAR cannot be called a good LMG.
...Although the empty weight of the RP-46 exceeded that of DP by 2.5 kg, when considered together with a single ammo box of 250 rounds, the RP-46 weighed 10 kg less than the DP together with the same amount of ammunition in DP pans.
Seriously- the PKM is the successor to the RP-46 and the SG-43. Both of which served 15+ years after being introduced until replaced in 1961. Your continued references to it are baffling. It's a cold-war design that was inspired by the design you consider unnecessary.
- My proposed solution let's a soldier carry 20+ pounds less of ammo or carry 20 more pounds of ammo that they can far more efficiently put down range to the Germans. That's an enormous increase in effective firepower per machine gunner and infantry section.
- The PK is a completely different gun and isn't invented for 20 years. It's the succesor to the RP-46 and SG-43 after all.
- The SG-43 uses the exact same round as the DP-27 and has a similar rate of fire. The only differences mainly being that the gun carriage can carry a lot of ammo and I think it's slightly heavier.
- The PKM is a GPM that uses the exact same round, and the only reason it's more of a GPMG was because it used a rifle round no longer the traditional rifle round (given the 5.45mm replaced 7.62). There essentially isn't a GPMG concept right now because the MGs either use larger than rifle rounds or rifle rounds given intermediate rounds are barely a thing.
- The Americans fought a vastly different war than the Soviets, it's a false equivalency and given how horrific WW2 was on the Eastern front we shouldn't accept for the bare minimum. Moreover, I don't see us fighting in North Africa or France.
- I've pointed out how upgrading DP-27's should use an existing production pipeline and just involve reworking the barrel and the ammo feed. It should by all rights be significantly cheaper to introduce than the SVT-40.
I don't see why it can't, the only distinction is that the M1910 has a wheeled mount, the RP-46 is less than 1/5 the weight, superior muzzle velocity, and superior ROF. And you could probably develop the SG-43's wheel gun mount, or simply develop them in tandem. Truth be told, I'm not sure why the Soviet's didn't create a bipod fitted/man-portable SG-43 or use the RP-46 with the same heavier mounts the SG-43 used- I don't understand the minutia of machine guns well enough to argue that. It seems like a 5-inch longer barrel and a lower muzzle velocity in the SG-43.Can RP-46 or similar DP derivative fulfill the role of MMG, and replace M1910 Maxim in most of it's applications as an emplaced MG? That's the question.
If it can, then by all means we should go for it. If it cannot, then replacing M1910 with something better seems to me to be a far more important task than making sure we have a better LMG, as DP is adequate for WWII while Maxim is certainly not.
No, narratively it's just what happens when you try to match the output of industrialized nations that has a 100 year headstart in 10 years. Shit happens. There aren't any so called 'wreckers' doing it intentionally. Just — as the logs notes several times — people being out of depth in trying to work with faulty equipments and teething issues that comes from crash-industralization. And even if there are wreckers, with Yagoda at helm of the NKVD and the clock ticking ever closer to 1937, any "Trial X" options are liable to get thousands shot, reduce that related X's institutional capacity field when we're about to wage war against the fascists, and with the only silver linings being getting our PI up more — potentially to the Danger Zone — and getting more ULAG workers.Mechanicaly, we have bad rolls. Narratively, someone must be responsible ror all this shit!
No, narratively it's just what happens when you try to match the output of industrialized nations that has a 100 year headstart in 10 years. Shit happens. There aren't any so called 'wreckers' doing it intentionally. Just — as the logs notes several times — people being out of depth in trying to work with faulty equipments and teething issues that comes from crash-industralization. And even if there are wreckers, with Yagoda at helm of the NKVD and the clock ticking ever closer to 1937, any "Trial X" options are liable to get thousands shot, reduce that related X's institutional capacity field when we're about to wage war against the fascists, and with the only silver linings being getting our PI up more — potentially to the Danger Zone — and getting more ULAG workers.
Not very worth it at this juncture.
State of Second Five Year Plan
The targets are:
150% Increases in MFPG: At Moving target
150% Increases in Capital Goods: Ahead of Moving target
150% Increases in Consumer Goods: Slightly Ahead of Moving target
50% increase in food production: Horribly Behind moving target
Military Production Targets
Size Increase to 1 Million Personel: Mobilization occurring, at the target
Construction of Stage 5 Academies: At planed rate
50% increase in food production: Horribly Behind moving target
50% increase in food production: Horribly Behind moving target
Food reserve is sold and the farmers are just abandoning their fields due to price increases. If you went for quotas you would be in a minor famine right now.Can someone guide me through on how the fuck the food situation has gotten this bad? This were going okay last turn.
We lowered the buying price of grain to the point where life as an ordinary peasant became financially unviable.Can someone guide me through on how the fuck the food situation has gotten this bad? This were going okay last turn.
Gorky. Let them eat cogs.