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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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Nando said:
I'm not as technically versed as I'd need to be to answer this question: Will we have radio encryption for our forces in the field? I've got no idea how that works, but considering that the Enigma was such a big deal, I fear that secure communication will be difficult, when in the field...no?

(I'd still go for the option, just wanted to get this out.)

And, yeah, I'd assumed that airforce would be there in any case, but having a focus on it would've been nice...
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At this tech level never mind radio encryption, clear radio over long distances is hard work.

Thats why its paired with leadership raising stuff. You need officers who can use codewords effectively to add clarity to noisy communication channels, and obfuscate details from outside listeners.
 
As a bonus, all these military academies could also serve to provide reserves of somewhat competent managers, should their output be a bit more than what RKKA can process.

And we need a lot of graduates; Right, if I'm not mistaken, RKKA is rather small at ~million men under arms.
 
Yeah, I am all for better artillery and logistics arm. Didn't the Soviet Union have comparatively shitty artillery? Let's fix that.

The guy who wants more academies sounds nice but he focuses too much on infantry, we need a strong large mobile force as well.

Mikhail Tukhachevsky is the moderate options and probably the most competent of the lot. I wouldn't mind following the advice of the dude who created the Deep Battle doctrine.
 
DkArthas said:
Yeah, I am all for better artillery and logistics arm. Didn't the Soviet Union have comparatively shitty artillery? Let's fix that.

The guy who wants more academies sounds nice but he focuses too much on infantry, we need a strong large mobile force as well.

Mikhail Tukhachevsky is the moderate options and probably the most competent of the lot. I wouldn't mind following the advice of the dude who created the Deep Battle doctrine.
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Soviets had fine artillery pieces; What was bad is their artillery practices.

They had shit like prototypes of specialised machines for artillery spotters, for example, ones unified with their common tanks, which didn't go beyond prototypes for some inexplicable reason.

And their combat equipment was world-class more or less. What they had problems with is logistics and leadership.
And we need military academies badly, comes with needing to expand our army to become an order of magnitude bigger before the decade is out.

By the way, Tukhachevsky is not the only one Deep Battle proponent in RKKA. If I'm not mistaken, their doctrine as written by people like Triandafillov was exactly that.
It's material and more importantly organisational deficiencies that precluded them from fighting according to it.
 
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[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)

Negating the Great Purge leadership malus is too huge an opportunity to pass up. Having tons of gear but not leadership would just result in a lot of captured equipment anyway. Plus not having lots of equipment will make the Politburo hesitate about invading Finland or Poland, thus making sure that the Soviet Union is not the aggressor in the coming war. We will keep the moral high ground.

As an aside, the Soviet GNP grew from 500 Resources to 1243 Resources in 5 years.
 
[X] Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP

Lets give the military a good foundation first and do things that are less likely to become obsolete after a short while. I don't want to repeat Italy's mistake.
 
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[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)
 
Vasilevsky would pretty much allow us to focus on relatively cheaper infantry and
military Academies options first. That would allow us to invest the brunt of our resources into further Industry build up that we badly need first.
 
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[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)
 
[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)

Competency is the most important thing we'll need to stave off the germans long enough to reach parity with their military development and production capacity.
 
[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)

HanEmpire said:
Negating the Great Purge leadership malus is too huge an opportunity to pass up. Having tons of gear but not leadership would just result in a lot of captured equipment anyway. Plus not having lots of equipment will make the Politburo hesitate about invading Finland or Poland, thus making sure that the Soviet Union is not the aggressor in the coming war. We will keep the moral high ground.

As an aside, the Soviet GNP grew from 500 Resources to 1243 Resources in 5 years.
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I'd prefer an actual high ground to a moral one, honestly. But the problem is, the world is seen as hostile by soviet leadership, and not without reason.
In our position, averting the Polish Campaign needs butterflies to the tune of Entente allying with USSR in first half of 1939, or France declaring during the First Sudeten Crisis. As we're controlling VSNKh and not foreign ministry or Third Internationale, we can't really be proactive about it.

The Winter War has a valid military reason as well - as it is, Finnish border is far too close to Leningrad (Which is still a second if not first city by industrial output in USSR). But it is more feasible for us to prevent - that reason is only valid if finns could conceivably be considered hostile.
That Mikoyan could affect, due to his experience with import-export; If we tie Finnish economics to USSR tightly enough, then nobody would think of the possibility of Winter War.

All my humble and wrong at least in some respects opinion, of course.
 
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[X]Boris Shaposhnikov
[X] 35% GNP

Shaposhnikov would allow us to build up the Red Army with a truly formidable artillery and logistics arm, allowing us to not only withstand the Germans but also to use our strategic depths to the fullest.
 
I mean Vasilevsky is also going to focus on the artillery arm though perhaps not to the same extent.
 
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Shaposhnikov will also gives his focus on the officers and the NCOs, though again not to the same extent.
 
[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)
 
[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)
 
[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)
 
[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)
 
[X]Aleksandr Vasilevsky
[X] 35% GNP: Through the re-direction of additional party funds towards the plan of industrialization and military production, it may be possible to far accelerate the pace of acceleration. This quantity is the maximum VSNKh economists believe can be utilized before major problems occur. (435 Resources per turn) (-15 Party Influence)

So plan more than doubled Soviet resources.
 
Dwergar said:
The Winter War has a valid military reason as well - as it is, Finnish border is far too close to Leningrad (Which is still a second if not first city by industrial output in USSR). But it is more feasible for us to prevent - that reason is only valid if finns could conceivably be considered hostile.
That Mikoyan could affect, due to his experience with import-export; If we tie Finnish economics to USSR tightly enough, then nobody would think of the possibility of Winter War.

All my humble and wrong at least in some respects opinion, of course.
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Finland itself posed no military threat and could pose no military threat. After all, the city of Leningrad by itself nearly outnumbered the entire Finnish nation (around 3+ million in Leningrad, about 3.5 million in whole of Finland) and almost certainly outproduced it - at the time, Finland was mostly agrarian with some forest industry. Their industrialization didn't occur until after the second world war, due to a need to pay for war reparations to USSR.

In Winter War, after the fabricated border incidence acting as Casus Belli, only the USSR forces already near Leningrad were used for the invasion. Everyone in the world, including most decision makers in Finland, expected the war to be over in two weeks to a month at most. That's why the Winter War is called a miracle.

The problem with Finland was never that Finland might become hostile, it was that Finland might be used (voluntarily or against their will) as a pathway for an actual peer power to open a front from. They also represented free manpower and industry (even if very little of it) promised to Moscow in the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
We can't really mitigate this view without somehow invading Finland prior to WWII, which would just lead to a different version of the War (possibly during a summer), or by arranging for a second civil war in Finland and supporting the local communists enough that they win. Either way, that's not exactly in our hands.
 
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