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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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vsh said:
Really like this one. Euro acceleration is I think too risky - if it happens at the same time as a potential oil crisis, both Eurozone and CMEA can fall apart. Want to support B. because it'll save us years of maluses on next management change.
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@Vi'Talzin 's recent post has convinced me to take the opposite stance to this. Oil Crisis is extremely unlikely to happen before 1975, plausible to happen before 1980 (when Euro adoption is scheduled to happen without asking Romanov), and fairly likely to happen before 1985. The preferable course of action is to rush CMEA integration and make a lot of it a fait accompli before oilshock hits and grinds further integration to a halt in the chaos. So I'm gonna approval vote a bunch of plans that have us accelerate it.

[X]Plan Out With Gold, in With the €
[X]Plan Kosygin's Legacy
[X]Plan Vibrant 70s
[X]Plan One Currency Policy
 
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Blackstar said:
Central bank with the chair determined by European CMEA members with representatives to that council sent relative to the member states population. Its a fully fiat currency in implementation, arguably backed by Soviet banking and bonds, but its entirely fiat. Transfer payments are considered but mostly as a state to state matter with the central bank and other CMEA centric financial organs charged with governing it. The transfer payment part has to an extent not really been considered, the project is one of the first of its kind and to an extent its seen more as a further step in increasing trade/breaking down whatever tiny barriers are left.
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Having an actual central bank to manage the currency puts the Kosygin Euro ahead of the OTL EU Euro, and will help alot with the almost certain risk that an alt-Greek debt crisis style event will happen due to us rushing the Euro. However, the lack of transfer payments is gonna hurt.

However, I am fairly confident that transfer payments can be put into place in the name of competing with the West/supporting our fraternal allies. What may be more difficult is if it turns out that OUR economy is the weaker one (which could easily be the case, since Russia started its industrial revolution a generation after it started in Poland, which got it a generation after Germany - as well as things have been going, we may not have closed the gap that head start gave places like Poland, and certainly won't have closed the gap with Germany in terms of per capita productivity). It would surely be unpopular with our smaller, militarily weaker allies if they had to send "catch up" payments to the Uzbek SSR. Still, we're probably not behind by so much that we can't bear the cost of effectively subsidizing our richer CMEA allies, plus, the tendency of wealth to pool in rich economies (ie, for the rich to get richer when barriers go down) should be somewhat countered by the strong planning aparatus.

And as I've said before, ditching the gold standard straitjacket before an oil crisis should really help us manage the crisis. And since the Euro doesn't seem to come with the further risk of overheating the economy than a straight out expansionary monetary policy does, AND it gives a win to the Kosygin-Semyonov block, I am starting to think that maybe it is worth owing a favour to Romanov and Semyonov at the same time if that's what it takes for the Threadviet to embrace the Euro...

Vi'Talzin said:
This is thankfully not the case actually, we do have a pathway to citizenship. Blackstar has mentioned before in the Discord that if you are a resident and have worked in the Union for five years, you are able to test into citizenship.

The main argument for doing immigration reform imo is keeping general labor prices down by massively increasing entries and propping up the agricultural sector. I think its a bit questionable to owe a favor for this tbh, though if you value these things then sure, it might be worth it.
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Hmmm. OK, well that's a much better situation than I expected. Probably isn't worth owing anyone a favour to make it even easier for immigrants to get in.

This, together with the information about Kosygin's Euro plan, makes me think that your Euro plan offers all the practical benefits of my own "fight the oil crisis" plan, but at lower political cost and the benefits of more technology from abroad.

[X]Plan Out With Gold, in With the €
-[X]Keep to Romanov's Line
-[X]Updates to Wage Policy
-[X]Accelerate Euro Adoption
-[X]Increase IP Acquisitions
-[X]Support Him

Regards,

fasquardon
 
[X]Plan Out With Gold, in With the €

Eh, I'm a bit wary of owing another favour, but to be fair it synergizes pretty well with our HI focus to help us trade stuff more easily.
 
Urgent news from the Discord, yesterday was Klim's birthday! Born February 28th, 1921, he would have been 103 years old if not for the part where he died almost 2 decades ago IRL.
 
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Wait, so Balakirev would be as old as Klim was on ascension once he actually ascends to minister? (assuming he manages to take over)
 
Fun fact about ages: Mikonyan was 37 years old when he became MNKh head in early 1933, pretty sure that's the springest chicken we've ever had. However, Malenkov was an option in that vote, and he was only 31 back then! Imagine such a wee lad having becoming the MNKh head as his birthday gift (8 January).
 
NSchwerte said:
Wait, so Balakirev would be as old as Klim was on ascension once he actually ascends to minister? (assuming he manages to take over)
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Slightly younger, but yes, pretty close. There's a difference in experiences to account for - Klim was doing politics, if regional ones, while Balakirev was involved in technical work, but that's what the training is for.
 
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