Bah, even if had the option that would have been the crappiest trophy ever. No thank you.

@DragonParadox, in hopes of moving along the vote for the crafters can we get the info OOC so we can decide on how much we want to offer, or do you want to handle everything IC?
 
We will keep trying of course, and the sooner the better is a thing, but I would rather have to wait 50 years more for a peaceful integration, than I would take Mantarys by the sword, conquering the city of angels would do so much bad to our PR.
Personally, I have no preference either way, but I'd like to have Mantarys in the next year or so after we consolidate our gains. Considering that 50 years in game would probably be around 10 years IRL and at that point, we should be so far in the epic levels that we shouldn't be worrying about Plantos at all.

Also, I've never really understood the "but our PR" argument. Our PR is shit, its pretty much always been shit (eating babies remember) and will probably continue to be shit considering the reawakening of magic and our plans to expand. Having bad PR in other states is pretty much unavoidable, just look at the animosity between certain countries today. So why fight it?

From a larger point of view, it really doesn't matter what the peasants from other cities think of us, because their first priority is not who rules but where their next meal comes from. Personally, I hold the view that we will do what is necessary and let the others talk, they'll eat their words when the Empire raises.
 
So. Turn him into a ghoul Lash him to a post and hang him somewhere nice and public where a lot of nobles hang out.

Maybe a nice public park or plaza?
 
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He hanged a more children than that. This was just the last batch of suffering that awoke an evil fey that wept curses.
@everyone, you guys remember that we can take someone's soul apart by graft-taking to a point they will not go to any afterlife and simply stop existing?
I think this fucker deserves just that.

And we'll drop off the soul fragments at DA!Tree when the time comes, however little he's worth.

The fuck doesn't deserve to die. He deserves to stop existing altogether.
 
The fuck doesn't deserve to die. He deserves to stop existing altogether.

I wouldn't disagree, but when we get round to conquering Astapor, wouldn't their entire culture be guilty of at least as bad as this character, even if it hasn't spawned Fey abominations? I'm not arguing against anything here, just saying I wouldn't mind if it were used as precedent for later confirmed atrocities.
 
Guys, you are overreacting. That stuff is reserved for demented who actively summon outsiders and perform human sacrifices.
 
Personally, I have no preference either way, but I'd like to have Mantarys in the next year or so after we consolidate our gains. Considering that 50 years in game would probably be around 10 years IRL and at that point, we should be so far in the epic levels that we shouldn't be worrying about Plantos at all.

Also, I've never really understood the "but our PR" argument. Our PR is shit, its pretty much always been shit (eating babies remember) and will probably continue to be shit considering the reawakening of magic and our plans to expand. Having bad PR in other states is pretty much unavoidable, just look at the animosity between certain countries today. So why fight it?

From a larger point of view, it really doesn't matter what the peasants from other cities think of us, because their first priority is not who rules but where their next meal comes from. Personally, I hold the view that we will do what is necessary and let the others talk, they'll eat their words when the Empire raises.
That's how we are viewed in Westeros, we have decent PR in Essos, and there's also internal PR to consider, if we kill all the Angels and take Mantarys by force, do you think the people of Mantarys will like us? They pretty much worship the Archon's.
 
he hung seven children. After torturing them.

We're plane shifting him to the abyss. Fuck law.

Mortal. Crimes.

Mortal. Law.

Do not compromise on this even if it is distasteful, the end to that path is that of the road to Hell, and paved in just the same.

He dies without ceremony, his family broken and the world he sought to cling to torn down all the more by his death. Don't give him the satisfaction of stooping to his level for nothing more than spite. If you do, he wins. Seriously, you're all overreacting here.

Well, hello Mr. Living-Proof-That-We-Should-Rule-This-Shit-Heap.

And now this is a statement that I agree with wholeheartedly.
 
@Goldfish, heads up that we still need a levelup vote for Glyra.

@DragonParadox, here's what the current XP should be:
Garin
Level: 12 (73084/78000 XP)
Maelor
Level: 11 (57499/66000 XP)
Malarys
Level: 13 (83470/91000 XP)
Malarys got 950 XP, Garin 1350 and Maelor 1650.

Garin
Level: 12 (73084/78000 XP) + 1350 XP --> Level: 12 (74434/78000 XP)

Maelor
Level: 11 (57499/66000 XP) + 1650 XP --> Level: 11 (59149/66000 XP)

Malarys
Level: 13 (83470/91000 XP) + 950 XP --> Level: 13 (84420/91000 XP)

And our current funds:
Liquid Assets: 533159 Gold
Tyroshi Religious Icons: 92,000 Gold [Load Collateral]
Deposit:
50.000 (Bank of Lys)
Debt: 400.000 (Iron Bank)
Secret Investments: 200.000 Gold (Lys)
Plus the lovely infusion of cash:
OOC: Here you go, no magic items, but you got seven more gremlins (reincarnated out of dead slave children) out of this as well as 12,000 gold total in confiscated estates.
Should now be this:
Liquid Assets: 545,159 Gold
Tyroshi Religious Icons: 92,000 Gold [Loan Collateral]
Deposit:
50,000 (Bank of Lys)
Debt: 400,000 (Iron Bank)
Secret Investments: 200,000 Gold (Lys)
 
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@everyone, you guys remember that we can take someone's soul apart by graft-taking to a point they will not go to any afterlife and simply stop existing?
I think this fucker deserves just that.

And we'll drop off the soul fragments at DA!Tree when the time comes, however little he's worth.

The fuck doesn't deserve to die. He deserves to stop existing altogether.
If he stop existing he stop suffering bollocks to that, he's going to be executed in an agonizing way, then his soul is going to arrive in Abaddon the Abyss or Hell, where he will suffer for eons more, until his soul has had all traces of personality tortured out of it, having his soul unmade is the merciful option, and I'm not feeling merciful to the fucker.
 
Bah, even if had the option that would have been the crappiest trophy ever. No thank you.

@DragonParadox, in hopes of moving along the vote for the crafters can we get the info OOC so we can decide on how much we want to offer, or do you want to handle everything IC?

Eh, sure.

*rolls for adventurers*

Good at thumping heads
One level 10 CN half giant (frost) Skald
One level 7 TN Avarial Hunter
Two level 6 Human Rogues

Crafters:
One level 8 NG Sylph Witch with brew potions and craft wondrous item
Two level 6 LN Raptoran Oracles with the Battle and Bones Mysteries (twins) one of which has craft Weapons and Armor

There area also a dozen or so sylph and human fighters, some with minor magical knacks.
 
The solution is obvious, we modify the law so that people that kill/rape/torture children are put together with the rest of the enemies of humanity.
 
Good at thumping heads
One level 10 CN half giant (frost) Skald
One level 7 TN Avarial Hunter
Two level 6 Human Rogues

No.
Trending towards yes.
Maybe? Not sure if we really need them, but they could be useful assets for our spy network if their skills line up the right ways.

One level 8 NG Sylph Witch with brew potions and craft wondrous item
Two level 6 LN Raptoran Oracles with the Battle and Bones Mysteries (twins) one of which has craft Weapons and Armor

All of my yes. Not just for crafting, but they could teach as well.
 
Seriously, this is something 99.9% of people can agree is Evil beyond redemption, people who do that renounce all rights and privileges of being human.
 
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