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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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@DragonParadox, will we be taking care of the Permanencied Mage's Private Sanctum on the Wind House as paid for by the Sealord next update? Also, did we take care of selling Alysande a scroll of Mage Armor so she can use that instead of Shield?
 
tarrangar said:
Yeah but in my opinion at least, there's a big difference between being paid for something, and being given the equipment needed to do something, so the question is if he's also uncomfortable, with the idea of us sponsoring him getting a new computer, but not giving him any money, he can spend on anything but what he needs to write.
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My current computer is perfectly serviceable for writing, but if it does break I promise I'll keep all your generous offers in mind.:)
 
DragonParadox said:
That's not the computer, it's the electrical and/or internet infrastructure, or in one memorable instance,, the neighbors poking holes in walls without much thought behind it.
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Oh okay, and you also have a laptop, so there's no chance of you getting in the position of your computer breaking down, and not being able to make a fundraiser for a new, because you need your computer for that.

So we will postpone all talk of donations, until you are either writing original fiction, or until your computer break down.
 
Crake said:
@Goldfish We don't really do much with it because we have put off actually researching creating things with alchemy, mostly because of common access to magical items as a solution, or being able to outright create a spell potion that does the job well enough if we need a concoction.

The uncommon or rare brews that alchemy can make are clearly superior at specialist roles though. Take that Magebane poison. That stuff is scary.

A big impediment is it is really a MacGuyver skillset tossed with some McGuffin-tier ceilings for ingredients. You have to hunt for the stuff, and while with our travel options that isn't as enormous a logistical undertaking as it might be for Braavos, it's still more involved than "one business deal and a crafting schedule for odds and ends".

Waymar ever gets lost in the wilderness somewhere though, and I give it a month before he has an arsenal of deadly or versatile substances carved out of monster carcasses he killed while going on enthusiastic walks vaguely homewards.
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Speaking of, here's Valeria's current Alchemy crafting schedule. We won't know how much is actually produced until DP rolls the Alchemy checks at the end of the turn, but the stuff I've got plugged in for now is cheap, and thus easy to make in large quantities.

Vermin Repellent lasts for 4 hours, prevents any insect of Fine size or smaller (which is 99.99% of them) from bothering the user, and makes it difficult for any insect swarm to bother the user. With average rolls, we should end up with at least 21 doses.

Alchemist's Kindness is a guaranteed hangover cure. With average rolls, we should end up with at least 108 doses.

Night Tea is a safe method of birth control and functions as an abortifacient if necessary. With average rolls, we should end up with 1,080 doses, which is enough for 36 women for one month.

These seemed useful and/or neat, so I plugged them in. If ya'll have better ideas, I can swap in different items.
 
[X] Goldfish

Goldfish said:
Waymar is also perhaps one of the greatest Alchemists currently living on Planetos, though we don't do much with that aspect of his abilities. He might be able to help the Silver Eye out, if only setting up the basics of Alchemy instruction.
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AntaeusTheGiant said:
[X] 2 Cactus Leshys of the Peshy subtype, for alchemical experimentation. See Weymar. Might as well get advanced template again. CR: 3. cost: 900
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Well, I tried to get him some alchemical help, but no one was interested....
 
Now we have a total of eight Tier-3 Heart Trees grown. :D

Planar Binding Tree -- Sorcerer's Deep
Healing Tree -- Sorcerer's Deep
Philosopher's Tree -- Sorcerer's Deep
Tree of Peace and Plenty -- Lys
Tree of Mantarys -- Mantarys
Tree of Tyrosh -- Tyrosh
Tree of Crows -- Castle Black
Tree of the All-Seeing Eye -- Braavos

And upcoming Trees:
Tree of the Dawn Age (currently the petrified weirwood)
The Dawn Fruit Tree
Defense Tree for Sorcerer's Deep
Defense Tree #2 for Sorcerer's Deep
A grove of weirwoods for the Children of the Forest
Heart Tree for Deepcleft
Heart Tree for Port Sorrow
Heart Tree for Saltcliff
Heart Tree for Westhaven
Heart Tree for He'Nekar
Heart Tree for Tolos
Heart Tree for the other two castles of the Night's Watch

Also, I don't know how well we'll manage it, but I want to set up a safe haven in Sothoryos. We have unlimited Greater Teleports there, so if we can we should see about growing a Heart Tree.
AntaeusTheGiant said:
Well, I tried to get him some alchemical help, but no one was interested....
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It was because your overall proposal costed 62,850, as opposed to the winning plan which costed 19,950 IM. If you'd only pushed to add one or two more types of Leshys to the winning vote you'd probably have seen a lot more success.
 
Duesal said:
It was because your overall proposal costed 62,850, as opposed to the winning plan which costed 19,950 IM. If you'd only pushed to add one or two more types of Leshys to the winning vote you'd probably have seen a lot more success.
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Nope, those prices are based on the Standard Magic Item prices, so are in gold, not IM.
 
AntaeusTheGiant said:
Nope, those prices are based on the Standard Magic Item prices, so are in gold, not IM.
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If you're referring to this:
DragonParadox said:
CR 1: 450 Gold
CR 2: 600 Gold
CR 3: 900 Gold
CR 4 :1200 Gold
CR 5: 1800 Gold
CR 6: 2400 Gold
CR 7: 3600 Gold
CR 8: 4800 Gold
CR 9: 7200 Gold
CR 10: 9600 Gold

Modifiers:

Intelligence 3-4: +5%
Intelligence 5-6: +10%
Intelligence: 6+: +20%

Rarity: -20-+50%

Danger: +5-+30%

Haggling: -33%-+33%
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That's actually equivalent to IM. It's admittedly confusing, but Gold Dragons = Volantine Honors = Iron Marks, etc.

To get the D&D gp value you multiply those numbers by 5.
 
Duesal said:
Now we have a total of eight Tier-3 Heart Trees grown. :D

Planar Binding Tree -- Sorcerer's Deep
Healing Tree -- Sorcerer's Deep
Philosopher's Tree -- Sorcerer's Deep
Tree of Peace and Plenty -- Lys
Tree of Mantarys -- Mantarys
Tree of Tyrosh -- Tyrosh
Tree of Crows -- Castle Black
Tree of the All-Seeing Eye -- Braavos

And upcoming Trees:
Tree of the Dawn Age (currently the petrified weirwood)
The Dawn Fruit Tree
Defense Tree for Sorcerer's Deep
Defense Tree #2 for Sorcerer's Deep
A grove of weirwoods for the Children of the Forest
Heart Tree for Deepcleft
Heart Tree for Port Sorrow
Heart Tree for Saltcliff
Heart Tree for Westhaven
Heart Tree for He'Nekar
Heart Tree for Tolos
Heart Tree for the other two castles of the Night's Watch

Also, I don't know how well we'll manage it, but I want to set up a safe haven in Sothoryos. We have unlimited Greater Teleports there, so if we can we should see about growing a Heart Tree.

It was because your overall proposal costed 62,850, as opposed to the winning plan which costed 19,950 IM. If you'd only pushed to add one or two more types of Leshys to the winning vote you'd probably have seen a lot more success.
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So between the regular HD needed, the ocassional overpaying and tremendously overpaying for the Big One in Lys, we have fed the Old Gods more then 500 HD, most of that premium quality items and high CR outsiders.

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Just for the record, that's two dozen Cornugon equivalents...
 
Azel said:
So between the regular HD needed, the ocassional overpaying and tremendously overpaying for the Big One in Lys, we have fed the Old Gods more then 500 HD, most of that premium quality items and high CR outsiders.

...

Just for the record, that's two dozen Cornugon equivalents...
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Yep. :evil: And I have every intention in the world of overpaying for the Tree of the Dawn Age. I want to hoard all sacrifices taken in the Plane of Air and Sothoryos for that purpose.
 
Goldfish said:
Speaking of, here's Valeria's current Alchemy crafting schedule. We won't know how much is actually produced until DP rolls the Alchemy checks at the end of the turn, but the stuff I've got plugged in for now is cheap, and thus easy to make in large quantities.

Vermin Repellent lasts for 4 hours, prevents any insect of Fine size or smaller (which is 99.99% of them) from bothering the user, and makes it difficult for any insect swarm to bother the user. With average rolls, we should end up with at least 21 doses.

Alchemist's Kindness is a guaranteed hangover cure. With average rolls, we should end up with at least 108 doses.

Night Tea is a safe method of birth control and functions as an abortifacient if necessary. With average rolls, we should end up with 1,080 doses, which is enough for 36 women for one month.

These seemed useful and/or neat, so I plugged them in. If ya'll have better ideas, I can swap in different items.
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So, upon reviewing my formulae and the crafting rules, it looks like I left a step off. Now that it's been corrected, the expected results from the three items I listed above are much, much higher. High check results for very low cost items makes a huge difference.

Rather than 21 doses of Vermin Repellent, average results would be 64.

Instead of 108 doses of Alchemist's Kindness, there would be 1,620, and instead of 1,080 doses of Night Tea, it would be 166,320 doses (enough for 5,544 women for a month).

With a week of work producing 1,620 doses of an actual hangover cure (at a material cost of 108 IM) and another week producing 166,320 doses of birth control (at a material cost of 1,108.8 IM), Valeria just became a major income producer without even taking into consideration her enchanting.

EDIT: Never mind the above, it was incorrect.
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
I would go about it as Rogue 2/Fighter 2. Considering we are talking 5-level build, that's decidedly decent.

They don't just fight, they are the Braavosi Inquisition. They have to know how to sneak, search, talk, identify...

From what I recall, the grammar is horrendous and flawed, but at least it isn't Spanish.

It's not super hard... But I can't take it seriously. Sorry, hermanos, but saying literally anything sounds funny/silly to me.

Portuguese, tho... That's a hell of a language. Versatile, lyrical, rich. It's accessible while having a tremendous skill cap, so to speak.
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Same with Portuguese, it's so damn similar sounding to spanish you can't help but try to guess words when speaking, which of course means you end up inventing nonsense words which are also hilarious sounding.

Tomcost said:
@bigbow , @das_slash , we have an enemy in common now
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das_slash said:
To be fair, i too like to make fun of other languages every once in a while.
Specially spanish, specially spanish from spain, that does sound incredibly silly to me, Mexican spanish on the other hand, is a proper, serious language without any of those silly sing-song common in other inferior dialects like those spoken in the iberian peninsula.
Unless of course, is mexican spanish from the north, or the yucatan peninsula, or tabasco, or certain barrios from the capital, or ....
You get the idea.
I think everyone sounds silly to someone else, and i often wonder how my "neutral" spanish sounds to other people.
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The true enemy is Spain spanish of course. So cringy and ridiculous... my face twitches when a movie has been dubbed to Spain Spanish. I can watch any other latin american spanish no problem, but our glorious motherland's use of the language is just... blegh. Of course, pretty much everyone in the continent finds Chilean spanish genuinly hilarious, we have a lot of aphorisms and common use words that literally no one else makes use of. Apparently its quite provincial backwater sounding.


TotallyNotEvil said:
I've often heard that's the one true enemy of all spanish speakers.

Of course, I just gaze languidly from my throne of lyrical eloquence.
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:rofl:

Crake said:
@DragonParadox hasn't answered @Goldfish's question regarding our burgeoning cable television broadcast ambitions, specifically whether or not using Auditory Hallucination in an enchantment would be necessary to provide a surround sound system, or if Ghost Sound would be adequate.

Considering I had ideas to set up regular "Monarch Talk" sections where Viserys takes a moment to 'get real' with his subjects. Maybe call it "Candid Crowns" or something... it's a work in progress.

Mostly I wanted to use it to talk about all the cool shit Viserys has planned and to educate the masses a little on matters arcane. We could do weekly one hour segments, and then of course there could be smaller networks of projected image casting standing stones playing propaganda state news on repeat scattered throughout public areas, to supplement our broadsheet idea.

What we need to do is find a way to produce cheap paper. I think we might be able to find a lead in either Qarth, or failing that, Yi Ti, of which we could probably Greater Teleport over after getting Menel to describe it to us accurately. Or Qarth for that matter.

It's a less effective endeavor in terms of spreading the real facts to counter our detractors, but having an indoctrinated informed populace has its benefits...
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This please, make it happen. The King speaking to all its subjects once a week? Our Empire will have a decidedly revolutionary vibe.

Crake said:
I keep hearing tons of accounts of English being frustratingly hard for non-native speakers to learn, mostly because of its weird rules.

Personally I'm in @Goldfish's camp. I tried to pick up two of the most common foreign language courses throughout K-12 and I found it to be quite non-intuitive and unfocused. The best way to learn is to privately pursue it, and I've mostly had that confirmed repeatedly by people mentioning media in that language sparked their interest and they pursued it by speaking with people who spoke the language (and drilling writing practice by going on the internet).

I only know one language, but one thing I think kind of stinks is that there's really very little incentive for me to pick up, say, German, outside of visiting Germany... except that, at least as a visitor, speaking only English wouldn't be a huge hindrance, nor is it in many other developed nations. So I would have to move there for an incentive to learn to form.

English isn't the best language, but I tend to either think of a language as utterly ridiculous sounding (or horrendously grating upon the ears)... or my understanding of English to be a direct impediment upon learning it. Since, again, English has weird rules.
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It's just consuming media, once you're on that level you just learn without realizing it as you read or watch your favorite content.


DragonParadox said:
Since I am writing fanfiction I don't feel comfortable doing that.
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I know the talk has been kind of shelved, but I at least see nothing morally or ethically wrong if you just had a paypal link somewhere. It's not a buisness transaction or a call for content, merely sending some cash to a friend for the good time's he's made possible.

Of course, the moment you finally set up something original and donate-able, I think you'll receive a lot of pent up gratitude in but a few moments:rofl:.

Duesal said:
Yep. :evil: And I have every intention in the world of overpaying for the Tree of the Dawn Age. I want to hoard all sacrifices taken in the Plane of Air and Sothoryos for that purpose.
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Make it happen Duesal! Uber powerful Language learning effect, make it all three tiers and overpay till the sky is red with the sacrificed blood. Just imagine if you could pick up High Valyrian and Westerosi Common within just a week of living in the Deep. Language is heavily correlated to Intelligence as well, so the children who grew up there would be polilingual to an extreme degree, I'm talking 5+ tongues, with corresponding leaps in what we could call 'IQ'.

Cool powers and spells and weapons are entertaining and all, but nothing could make me jump on the sacrifical bandwagon more enthusiastically than this.

TotallyNotEvil said:
Sorry Japan, it looks like we won't be able to avenge you.
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Brazil's football team has the luck of the devil. I would not be surprised if they'd turn it around somehow.
 
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bigbow said:
Make it happen Duesal! Uber powerful Language learning effect, make it all three tiers and overpay till the sky is red with the sacrificed blood. Just imagine if you could pick up High Valyrian and Westerosi Common within just a week of living in the Deep. Language is heavily correlated to Intelligence as well, so the children who grew up there would be polilingual to an extreme degree, I'm talking 5+ tongues, with corresponding leaps in what we could call 'IQ'.

Cool powers and spells and weapons are entertaining and all, but nothing could make me jump on the sacrifical bandwagon more enthusiastically than this.
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I'm mainly eager to exploit this to teach all the Scholarum mages proper Draconic.
 
Duesal said:
I'm mainly eager to exploit this to teach all the Scholarum mages proper Draconic.
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That goes without saying. If all three effects are devoted to it, students of all stripes (Scholarum, Orphanages, Universities) would receive a tremendous boon. As well as the bakers, cobblers, guards, and all the normal people living in the Deep. Heck, with the amount of off planar immigrants we always end up stuffing in the city, I would not be surprised if an average citizen ended up knowing multiple inter planar tongues just because of the stuff he hears in the market when he's out for that bi weekly bread run.
 
@Azel
Something I just noticed, after all talk about giving unreliable actors full information through the mirror-plan, aren't we kinda already doing that by putting the Weirwoods in all important locations?

Bloodraven sees all...
 
Artemis1992 said:
@Azel
Something I just noticed, after all talk about giving unreliable actors full information through the mirror-plan, aren't we kinda already doing that by putting the Weirwoods in all important locations?

Bloodraven sees all...
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Bloodraven is kept in line by a very, very clear picture of what we would do with a traitor and he is the last man who would sacrifice himself for any cause.

Beside that, he has the ability to use Divine Salients. We have no chance to shut him out anyway.
 
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