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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- a song of ice and fire a sword without a hilt d&d 3.5 dungeons & dragons 100% high octane dragon fuel ave corvidae battle action dragon diplomacy best sister bureaucromancy delicious soul-stuff dragon dreams come true dragon ta'veren greatest uncle hubris is a coward's word in defiance of gods and men mammon's folly mutually assured mage's disjunction qm murderhobo top tier coatl
- Location
- Germany
I think our Charisma and thus the DC was quite a bit lower back then. It's one of those things that works better the higher your level is.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
That would be worth spending a Wish on.
Forget Mind Blank. Just try your luck if you want to scry Viserys.
No, I would still prefer Mind Blank, but if the two work together, well, that would just be awesome.
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- Germany
Mage: "Finally! I have circumvented the warding around that blasted Dragon! Now I can see what he... what... Oh My... WHAT IS THIS... NONONONO--"
- Location
- Brazil
And so the world has the first death by fear of badly balanced ledgers.
- Location
- United States
I genuinely fear Viserys might have a heart attack when we take a look at Baelish's ledgers.
- Location
- Germany
Stannis: "Maybe these fools will now finally understand the horror they unleash on a daily basis..."
Iron Bank: "Dubious. We have been trying to educate them on that matter for a few centuries. The Special Division For Improvement Of Accounting is still bringing back a dozen hands a month."
My money is more on Unstoppable Rage. Followed by beating Baelish to death with his own books.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
No, Viserys would suddenly develop the ability to cause people to spontaneously combust through sheer, unadulterated disgust.
Unlimited range, consumes an 8th level spell slot, causes the user 1d4 points of Charisma damage, and leaves them exhausted, but inflicts 1d6 points of Fire damage per caster level with a Fortitude save for half damage.
- Location
- Argentina
Viserys: "For Tiamat's sake, CREDITS ARE NOT EQUAL TO DEBITS, HOW THE FUCK DO THEY OPERATE?"
Lady Uraka: "What kind of moron would even believe this bullshit?"
*Back in King's Landing*
Robert: "Hey, that Littlefinger dude says that we are doing good! I want another tournament next month, ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND GOLD DRAGONS FOR THE WINNER!"
*Court bootlickers cheer*
- Location
- Philippines
[X] Duesal
Speaking of Baelish, oh boy...
How long did it take him to increase Gulltown's income? Hopefully a year. He's getting appointed as Master of Coin either this year or next year. Can we shank him before he creates a mess?
Speaking of Baelish, oh boy...
How long did it take him to increase Gulltown's income? Hopefully a year. He's getting appointed as Master of Coin either this year or next year. Can we shank him before he creates a mess?
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
That's assuming those events haven't been butterflied out of existence.
By now he could be dead, a Devil cultist, or helplessly trapped in a poorly worded Fey bargain. Or he could be a powerful Beguiler or social-specced Warlock just waiting to sink his claws into the royal treasury.
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- Philippines
Or Mammon.
DP surely can't resist. Epic Boss opportunity here. Right as we fight to get to Joffrey, it's revealed that Mammon took over Baelish a long while now and he is the big bad and mastermind of the War of the Three Kings campaign.
- Location
- United States
The devils would never accept him as a cultist.
"Chaos is a ladder."
- Location
- Australia
@Duesal
I'd like to do this, owning the Underworld is a great boon and something most Lords simply cannot do, but they still remember our beginnings. Let's cash in.
Speaking of cashing in, are we not still owed a reward for finding the Mirror Mephit?
- Location
- United States
The current vote is only for immediate actions, which is basically finishing up with Alysande, dropping her off in front of the Heart Trees in Sorcerer's Deep, picking up the Fairwind children and our dragonpens and Rina, sending the Fairwind children to their parents for the duration of their trip, initiating the copying of the Sealord's full library, and sending Rina and Lya to the Iron Bank to do the warding as agreed.
If people want to, I can turn the vote into another monster and detail everything we wanted to do in Braavos, but I don't think it's necessary here. After this is done DP will just ask us what we want to do next. We've got from the seventeenth to the twenty-first to get everything done, and we've already got a heck of a lot done here.
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- being near locations is my passion.
It's just after midnight now btw, I thought that we were convincing the Silver Eye as a group about the OG rather than the communion option and I would much rather drop the fairwinds off in SD for a day or two (I wish I'd have thought to suggest we send a note to clear their schedule for a day or two now :/ ) so their kids can show them around and make them go wow.
Edit: When we bring dragonpens, I would like to bring a mage or two or three that would like to go to braavos for a bit for a long job (copying the archive), but also getting to a) stay in braavos for a bit and enjoy the city, b) get some hands on experience when they work for the Silver eye for a bit (provided the are up for doing so, of course).
Naturally, the long job is boring, so cycle them a bit.
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Omake: The Madness of Viserys Targaryen 2: The First Whispers
- Location
- Philippines
In other news, I was bored, and trying to sleep in this humid 10:00 AM morning here in the tropics. So I figured, why not check on how did the most vocal people in this thread came to be. I believe this can be a Apocrypha post if not an Omake, won't it @DragonParadox? As for you people... Cringe before your first posts!
The Madness of Viserys Targaryen 2: The First Whispers
Elsewhere Elsewhen
You wake with a start but not from being asleep. Here you dream the knowing void again. Over the aeons, you've come to accept them as they are. The voices in the Not Time. The not-so-gods, that vote for your fate.
This feels different though... Like a hand dipping in water to fish out objects, the first whispers of the loud voices in your head are presented to you. You are "asked" to react to them:
"I remember you devil, when you first called out the foolishness of blind faith. This is what has started our wary thoughts against R'hllor, no?"
"Ha! Magpie, dipping your beak into my life for the very first time. Not much has changed, hasn't it?"
"...well you do like me now, do you?"
"Arguing with the god of gods since the start. Oh, how far have we come, you pile of bones?"
"And so the narrative starts with politics. Has my life become the tale you wished to be? Oh eldest of the voices in my head?"
"Malarys is a very useful vassal, as you quite know... Can I persuade you to let me get the other three?"
"You've been very aggressively pursuing books since then. Well, at least Lya is happy."
"A sound advice you had then. Now Braavos is all but mine! *Draconic Laughter*"
"Too late (heh). I am the Archon now!"
"You were quite judging of people since then. That as much has not changed."
"Your priorities have always been straightforward. Aemon the Dragon at the Wall... Hmmm..."
It appears that no more is forthcoming. But you do know that there are multitudes more than those first whispers. So you slip into the not-knowing once more, as you patiently wait the call:
So that reality can make sense again...
The Madness of Viserys Targaryen 2: The First Whispers
Elsewhere Elsewhen
You wake with a start but not from being asleep. Here you dream the knowing void again. Over the aeons, you've come to accept them as they are. The voices in the Not Time. The not-so-gods, that vote for your fate.
This feels different though... Like a hand dipping in water to fish out objects, the first whispers of the loud voices in your head are presented to you. You are "asked" to react to them:
"I remember you devil, when you first called out the foolishness of blind faith. This is what has started our wary thoughts against R'hllor, no?"
"Ha! Magpie, dipping your beak into my life for the very first time. Not much has changed, hasn't it?"
"...well you do like me now, do you?"
"Arguing with the god of gods since the start. Oh, how far have we come, you pile of bones?"
"And so the narrative starts with politics. Has my life become the tale you wished to be? Oh eldest of the voices in my head?"
"Malarys is a very useful vassal, as you quite know... Can I persuade you to let me get the other three?"
"You've been very aggressively pursuing books since then. Well, at least Lya is happy."
"A sound advice you had then. Now Braavos is all but mine! *Draconic Laughter*"
"Too late (heh). I am the Archon now!"
"You were quite judging of people since then. That as much has not changed."
"Your priorities have always been straightforward. Aemon the Dragon at the Wall... Hmmm..."
It appears that no more is forthcoming. But you do know that there are multitudes more than those first whispers. So you slip into the not-knowing once more, as you patiently wait the call:
DragonParadox said:
So that reality can make sense again...
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
rofl:rofl:rofl:Good stuff, dude! I had forgot about making that comment.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
It's late and I'm kinda sleepy, plus my sarcasm detector might be on the fritz, so I can't tell whether you're actually being complementary here or snarky.
- Location
- Germany
Politics was always the most likely path, maybe inevitable, just not the one I would have prefered.
[X] Duesal
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- Location
- florida
pretty much yeah
Alright. I did some reading. Some thinking too. I get why Azel is mad now. I think.
Azel next time a good outsider gives us shit I'll vote to argue with them. You are correct. They are being polite... But still unfair.
I understand why they are doing it however.
Think about what they see in Viserys. Think about how powerful he is. He is the leader of the most powerful cabal of mages in the world.
Now. Think about our political motives. We can, and in fact are planning on taking over the world. A goal which we are probably going to achieve.
That's a billion times more power than we would ever let anyone have. Others feeling the same way is understandable.
Now. Something else. This is not good first rodeo. Or second, or tenth. The collective forces of good hass likely seen more heroes fall than there are stars in the sky. All of these creatures can and likely have seen how power and damnation by inches effects people. Even good people. People who were so great it was like looking at the sun.
Like Lya said, even angels fall. It usually powerful ones too.
Yes. I can appreciate that they are using lex luthor logic, I know it's not fair. Or accurate. But even angelic Kings can fall.
That is why I am willing to bend when we talk to good outsiders. Screaming at someone who is already terrified of you is not going to make the situation better.
Your plan however is a good one. Throw the fucking gauntlet down. We have bled and fought and sacrificed to protect the world from evil and everytime we meet them it's.
"Why no, I don't eat babies thank you very much mister angel sir."
That's a fair critcism and is on them.
That being said. You need to relax with them. Yes it's tiring and irritating and insulting. But they are still willing to be proven wrong. Because that is their end goal. They want us to show them that we are not going to go nuts and set the world on fire. Like the last 50 times someone tried to take over the world.
Because they have seen that. Over, and over, and over again.
Anyway. I'm just trying to eexplain good outsider behavior better. In this case the same stupifyiing force that drove the archons to block us from Mantarys. Fear. We are scary. We are an existential threat.
Edit: I was being genuine goldfish. That went about as well as it could have. For us anyway.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
@Goldfish, @Duesal
I think we should make some "common grade" adventuring kits for mages we've sent as far as Braavos, with maybe truncated versions for those we're sending to Mantarys, which is far enough from the enemies the kits would actually be useful against that just part of them would do fine.
So a "detect poison" item to prevent the most common form of assassination--laxity in one's paranoia-- a PfE item and healing belt. Not fool proof, but a dozen kits to start would keep our outbound mages protected against mind control, poison and something as gauche and incautious as a fatal stabbing disguised as a mugging.
If a PC was ever broken out to target our mages, we'd probably just scry and die them immediately, since that's basically declaring open season. So it'll be NPCs vs NPCs and baby PCs vs baby PCs, meaning they should be more than well enough equipped.
I think we should make some "common grade" adventuring kits for mages we've sent as far as Braavos, with maybe truncated versions for those we're sending to Mantarys, which is far enough from the enemies the kits would actually be useful against that just part of them would do fine.
So a "detect poison" item to prevent the most common form of assassination--laxity in one's paranoia-- a PfE item and healing belt. Not fool proof, but a dozen kits to start would keep our outbound mages protected against mind control, poison and something as gauche and incautious as a fatal stabbing disguised as a mugging.
If a PC was ever broken out to target our mages, we'd probably just scry and die them immediately, since that's basically declaring open season. So it'll be NPCs vs NPCs and baby PCs vs baby PCs, meaning they should be more than well enough equipped.