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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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...I'm kind of glad they have Fey situation in hand.
Not nearly as well as I would have liked (maim kill burn maim kill burn!), but well enough for now.

@Duesal, shall we also hammer out the agreement to send our mages to practice to Silver Eye now?

As far as I see, cream of the crop aside, they won't be working with Inquisition, and Archons...
Well, they have shown themselves kind of dickhead-ish after Tyrosh and some people seem to be opposed cooperating with them now.


I'm going to sleep now.
Please don't forget to:
[] Exchange lore/books with Silver Eye
[] Take contraband/cursed items
[] Sell item identification ritual (with severe clauses to not have it retailed)
[] Get training methods/lore for her wizard variant class.
 
@Duesal
She can talk to us now, but would you rob her of the chance to talk with gods because it might, might, interfere with our own talks?
Any high-ranking Silver Eye can talk about most of what we want to know.

[X] Take her to the Deep and let Softstrider help her commune with Bloodraven
 
Teaching her Teleport makes her an international problem though. How necessary is it for her?
And it'll cost her one of her few highest-level spell slots. I suggest Dimension Door instead: faster to teach, more useful to someone of her level whose interests are city-scale and not world-scale.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Teaching her Teleport makes her an international problem though. How necessary is it for her?
And it'll cost her one of her few highest-level spell slots. I suggest Dimension Door instead: faster to teach, more useful to someone of her level whose interests are city-scale and not world-scale.
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It's not really a problem for us.

We have this nifty magic item for Lya: Quill Of Scribing - Eberron Unlimited

All we need to do is have Lya make a Scroll of Teleport next turn and give it to Alysande if she doesn't already know the spell.

As for what she'd use it for, it's extremely useful in emergencies to quickly get to or away from danger. Absolutely worth the spellslot IMO. Either way, she could always simply not prepare it on certain days if she doesn't need it.

EDIT: I've been toying with the idea of giving Alysande her own Quill of Scribing as well and having her make copies of all the spells she knows that we don't have so we can add them to our collection.

EDIT 2: Also, Alysande's more or less concerned solely with Braavos' safety. She's not a random murderhobo we're handing a WMD to.
 
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Duesal said:
As for what she'd use it for, it's extremely useful in emergencies to quickly get to or away from danger. Absolutely worth the spellslot IMO. Either way, she could always simply not prepare it on certain days if she doesn't need it.

EDIT: I've been toying with the idea of giving Alysande her own Quill of Scribing as well and having her make copies of all the spells she knows that we don't have so we can add them to our collection.
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Sure, but isn't Dimension Door better? It can do that too, and it only costs a level 4 spell slot.

Are we making her pay for this? Are we doing it out of pocket?
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Teaching her Teleport makes her an international problem though. How necessary is it for her?
And it'll cost her one of her few highest-level spell slots. I suggest Dimension Door instead: faster to teach, more useful to someone of her level whose interests are city-scale and not world-scale.
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What does international problem mean?

To me... teleport means freedom. That day Tyene got her boots was the day she got what she said she wanted in that inn, so many, many updates ago. Well, teleport and planshift, but she has that spell already without items.

Anyway, Teleport for when she wants to drop by the scholarium, dimension door as it is a fantastic spell like you said, and sending (also fifth level) for when she can't get a message through the ACSE - though that should be in a scroll rather than prepared.

Hmm, @DragonParadox - did we add a clause in ACSE that it can be used by local leadership/inquisition equivalents to be able to send for help from other places that have it (well, Sorc. Deep) in dire need?

Edit: if she's getting scrolls, then she could pay the material costs? It feels weird to gouge people who are trying to stop the world burning down.
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
Sure, but isn't Dimension Door better? It can do that too, and it only costs a level 4 spell slot.

Are we making her pay for this? Are we doing it out of pocket?
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Dimension Door is quite a bit more limited in range. (400 ft. + 40 ft./level) vs 100 miles/level. That's going to the next block vs going anywhere you've ever been in Braavosi territory. It's worth the higher spell slot IMO.

As for payment, yeah. We're not dolling out scroll scribing for free when we could easily use that time for our own benefit. She's backed directly by the Sealord, so he'd be paying for this.
 
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Now that we are speaking with Alysande, we should offer our services identifying things they would otherwise have to ask the Fey for help with, it would be a decent source of revenue for us, and lessening Fey influence is always good.
 
Crake said:
"Ser Richard is Tom Cruise in Yi Ti AKA The Last Xia".
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Azel said:
"No silly. How to abuse magic and divination for financial gain."
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They did say "Dark Arts".
Duesal said:
I wonder how Viserys' SR would interact with Harry Potter wizards... Would the vast majority of their spells simply bounce off save for those of the more powerful wizards?
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The way I interpret D&D magic and interactions with other settings is that D&D has a 'conceptual' advantage.

For example, how much damage is 10d6? IC, it's actually quite a bit. How much is 20d6? IC, it's supposed to be tremendous. How much is 40d6? IC, that's 20th level disintegrate, which should be a fancy way of saying "You Died".

So if it is, say, 40k, a Beta Telepath might be able to control a small hive, but he'd get blasted right quick from a similarly powerful D&D insert.

Think about it, most PCs aren't actually great at dealing with D&D armies, which tend to be tiny, but by 16th level or so you have a fair shot a killing the Balrog.

So I just say they are extraordinary on squad scale combat.
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Albus: "So it is."
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Absolutely legit.
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Viserys would kill Umbridge as soon as she started torturing students in the name of 'discipline'... and probably seriously consider if she qualifies for sacrifice.
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Let's be real, without the more finicky party members, there'd be very little considering done :V
 
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For example, how much damage is 10d6? IC, it's actually quite a bit. How much is 20d6? IC, it's supposed to be tremendous. How much is 40d6? IC, that's 20th level disintegrate, which should be a fancy way of saying "You Died".
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There was a comedy Worm/D&D fic where the fact that firearms do something like 2d12 damage max in 3.X (according to that optional table somewhere in the DMG!) is used to make spells like Scorching Ray hilariously lethal. So that 20d6? Yeah, you just vaporised that armored truck.

Edit: Found it! It was Silver, where Lung dies instantly (and accidentally) to a spell that the caster thought would only hurt him a little.
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
There was a comedy Worm/D&D fic where the fact that firearms do something like 2d12 damage max in 3.X (according to that optional table somewhere in the DMG!) is used to make spells like Scorching Ray hilariously lethal. So that 20d6? Yeah, you just vaporised that armored truck.

Edit: Found it! It was Silver, where Lung dies instantly (and accidentally) to a spell that the caster thought would only hurt him a little.
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Yeah, you might not be an army blaster, but you can kill Big Bads like no one else's business.

I usually read it as higher than 5th-6th level D&D characters essentially being "heroic mortals". It's pretty Tolkien-esque, I feel, where the Great people are just inexplicably invincible if you aren't one yourself.

That's called Hit Points, yo :V

Ser Richard, for example, has Mettle and a good Fort save. So if someone targets an Avada Kedavra at him, he will most likely GRIT THOSE TEETH and tough it out. What kind of hero gets one-shotted?

On how would an SR of 27 be represented, I think of the Mindflayer, who has the very same SR, and is essentially immune to all but the strongest spell casters. Even if you are rocking CL 20 and Greater Spell Penetration, that much SR flat out 'nopes' around 25% of all spells targeted at him.

OOC, that's the threshold of "weak SR". IC, that's absolutely amazing as even an Archmage has serious troubles nailing you, and means even say, Dumbles would have to jump through some hoops to get him, like Conjuration (Creation) and such.

And it fits, "the dragon's scales shrug off battlemagics as a duck's feathers would water". That's a classic.
 
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Votes, people!

@DragonParadox An interlude featuring Glyra's acquisition of her new Troupe would be awesome.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jul 3, 2018 at 2:00 PM, finished with 202595 posts and 8 votes.
  • [X] Offer to set any worries at ease yourself after we take the time to learn everything from Alysande in which we are interested.
    -[X] If that isn't enough, briefly return to Sorcerer's Deep and request Soft Strider's aide. Perhaps one of the fabled Children of the Forest will placate the Silver Eye.
    --[X] And if that does not set their minds at ease, ask Soft Strider to help Alysande commune with Bloodraven.
    [X] Take her to the Deep and let Softstrider help her commune with Bloodraven
    [X] Take her to the Deep and help her commune with Bloodraven (requires 2 days)
    -[X] Have Dany help (reduce it to 1 day)
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jul 3, 2018 at 2:01 PM, finished with 202597 posts and 8 votes.
  • [X] Offer to set any worries at ease yourself after we take the time to learn everything from Alysande in which we are interested.
    -[X] If that isn't enough, briefly return to Sorcerer's Deep and request Soft Strider's aide. Perhaps one of the fabled Children of the Forest will placate the Silver Eye.
    --[X] And if that does not set their minds at ease, ask Soft Strider to help Alysande commune with Bloodraven. Dany is welcome to help, too, if she has the time and feels like it.
    [X] Take her to the Deep and let Softstrider help her commune with Bloodraven
    [X] Take her to the Deep and help her commune with Bloodraven (requires 2 days)
    -[X] Have Dany help (reduce it to 1 day)
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@DragonParadox
Alysande Redsail
Race: Human
Alignment: ???
Wizard Variant Level 7
Current Known Spells (Wizard Spells)
0th -- Acid Splash, Arcane Mark, Dancing Lights, Detect Magic, Disrupt Undead, Flare, Ghost Sound, Light, Mage Hand, Mending, Message, Open/Close, Prestidigitation, Resistance, Touch of Fatigue
1st --Charm Person, Erase, Grease, Obscuring Mist, True Strike, Alarm, Cheat, Detect Undead, Hail of Stone, Shield
2nd -- Detect Thoughts, Invisibility, Knock, Mirror Image, Fox's Cunning, Scorching Ray, Web, Rebuke, Sun Bolt
3rd -- Hold Person, Magic Circle Against Evil, Slow, Tongues, Blink, Dispel Magic, Great Thunderclap, Alter Fortune, Fireball
4th -- Black Tentacles, Fear, Resilient Sphere
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And known magic items:
Greater Ribbon of Disguise, Amulet of Protection from Evil
Supernatural Servant: Liminal Sprite (Bolt)

That's what I have on Alysande so far. Can we get an updated list of her known spells, what level she's currently at, a detailed explanation of her class features, and what magic items she has? I notice she's got herself a fey-touched rapier of some kind as well.

Oh, and also a list of all the mages of the Silver Eye, their classes, levels, specializations and how they're organized into various sub-groups.
 
That said, HP witzies get a couple of extra castings per 'round' and an apparently inexhaustible well of casting. Well until their arm gets tired or their throat really dry.

Dumbles would notice the failure of direct casting and then just jump hoops as you say - but for someone on that level of skill, said hoop jumping probably wouldn't even be a thing he notices. Like... the difference in difficulty between adding and multiplying. one is eiser than the other, but both are easy in general :)

Also, as the abomination says, plz vote. One Hungers. ;)
 
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