I hope enough Westerosi are too stubborn to see that resistance is future. I want to unleash the Legion.

Lannisters, you'd better deliver! :mad:
 
edit: I just realized, we already have kids! The psionic changeling mind babies we made! I demand screentime!

We might have to throw them & simulacrum into a time bubble for that. Unless they age three or four times as fast "naturally"...

Edit: What we need to do are to locate Azema's dothraki kids.
 
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@Artemis1992 what if Viserys invests 10-20k XP to lean on lya's soul lore to make that sacrilurium that we were offered by the mirror mephit, but instead of it being a separate being, it is an extension of Viserys with 1/2 to 2/3 of his hd/cl

Allowing him to do all the stuff and be a parent. But this is like 2-3 in-game years mind. I think it would be worth the effort to get another body and brain meat to express his soul through at that point.
 
@Artemis1992 what if Viserys invests 10-20k XP to lean on lya's soul lore to make that sacrilurium that we were offered by the mirror mephit, but instead of it being a separate being, it is an extension of Viserys with 1/2 to 2/3 of his hd/cl

Allowing him to do all the stuff and be a parent. But this is like 2-3 in-game years mind. I think it would be worth the effort to get another body and brain meat to express his soul through at that point.
*Goldfish silently screams somewhere far away*
 
*Goldfish silently screams somewhere far away*

Worth it at level 17-20 imo, for a clone body that can cast teleport and is under Viserys' control (as it is part of him), and allows him to be an actual parent And do his job.

Can't leave it all to Lya!

Edit: we would need to find a way to bribe Goldfish. Maybe purposely kill someone that looks to be an obstacle instead to taking the effort to diplomace then.

Or we can push Araune down some stairs some day. That might be worth his (and everyone's) consent to spending a lot of XP to gain a second (fully mentally entwined) body
 
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Worth it at level 17-20 imo, for a clone body that can cast teleport and is under Viserys' control (as it is part of him), and allows him to be an actual parent And do his job.

Can't leave it all to Lya!
Remind me again, why were people voting to nerf Danny's prc, specifically "Astral Projection" part of it?...
:V
 
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Actually. Wait why arent we doing as the Archons, ritually crowdsource the magic.

@DragonParadox would it be possible to invest a few days to research a ritual for Lyre of Building, or / and fabricate?
 
Remind me, why were people voting to nerf Danny's prc, specifically "Astral Projection" part of it?...
:V

Because it is powerful in a way that a body dedicated to being a dad isn't, and that "dad body" is already doing a thing (being a dad, occasional admin, light teaching), and there is a reason I suggested it costing so much XP - I am very much against any possibility of mental divergence over time, so no forking, one person-two bodies only, please.

Edit: oh! Wait! We should bring Tyene if we ever give in to kill the idiot. She is still owed.
 
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Part MMX: Masks and Mirrors
Masks and Mirrors

Twenty-Eighth Day of the Second Month 293 AC

Thankfully not all your day is spent trying to rearrange the stifling protocol of the palace, sending down orders from on high of how recalcitrant nobles are to be punished, or who should be offered the grey cloak of the lawman and how. There is still much to be seen and done by walking the streets of Tyrosh, understanding its people and its culture, away from the bright colors and heady perfumes of the highborn.

Cloaked in sorcery you walk among the scions of the lesser nobility and wealthy mercantile houses, gathered in discrete and well appointed taverns, finding in them much of the drive and ambition their 'betters' seem to lack. Plans for trade and profit, and suppositions as to the shifting tides of politics and what it might mean for their interests, are as common as they are animated. While misconception and wild rumor may be as ripe here as it is elsewhere, at the very least they are not stewing in their resentment and fears as far too many of the court functionaries are wont to do out of your sight. Here too can be seen the hand of Trios and its hidden puppet master. Those still upon the lower rungs seek power, wealth, and ascension into the dazzling world of the court. Alas that having reached it the ever-hungry caterpillar becomes a flitting butterfly, more invested in the appearance than the substance of excellence.

As you share your observations Dany's voice whispers in your ear carried forth upon a sorcerous breeze. "It almost makes you wonder if we should have killed more, doesn't it?"

You give her a long considering look. For this outing she had chosen to take an older form so as not to raise too many eyebrows, though she claims half-in-jest that in some ways it is stranger to be a woman than a dragon. "Odd to hear that from you, given all the trouble you want to to save the fools on Therys who shall, thanks to you, be spared their lives if not not their post."

"One can contemplate the worth of a course of action without taking it," she shrugs. "Perhaps it is selfish of me but I would rather be able to face my reflection in the morning. It makes arranging one's hair so much easier you see..." The humor does not hide the truth of her words.

"We did good work," you remind her. "Stalls stand empty and chains rust away..."

"For now at least. They shall make good iron to feed the forges, good steel for the legion," she replies, justifiably proud of the symbolism she had conjured. "It seems too small a punishment for those who peddled in human misery, though..."

"We can't punish all of them, but the worst of them will be dealt with," you vow.

"Or at least the stupider among that particular subset," Dany counters. "The clever will know which way the wind is blowing and flee..."

"Perhaps," you allow "Though they shall not flee nearly far enough."

The two goblets clink together in a quiet toast, a strange bell to herald the raising of an empire.

***​

You find Salladhor Saan not in a brothel or a tavern celebrating the night's success as you had feared and more than half expected. Rather he is striding purposefully along the dock, sky-blue cloak trimmed with golden thread and fastened with a sapphire broach flashing in the sky. Surprisingly, he knows you almost as soon as you open your mouth to address him, in spite of your false form.

"You walk like you own the place," he explains with a bright smile, though keeping his voice low.

"So do half the magisters," you counter.

"No, see they prance around as though they want others to think they own it. Great difference there, and I know my prancing." Once more you find yourself charmed almost in spite of yourself by the old pirate.

"Excellent work capturing the ships in port last night. Is there anything your require before going back to sea to take more errant vessels, perhaps even adding to your fleet?" you ask.

"Already did." His tone is sly as it is cheerful. "Three of the smallest galleys, the best raiders of the lot, but hardly fit for a king's fleet."

"And you did not what to bother me with the mention?" you guess, tone more arch than displeased. He did after all hand off three times more ships than he took, and all of them larger. "Do try to avoid such slips in the future. I would like to know the full extent of your resources when I assign a task."

"And set the taxes," he notes.

You do not deny it. Some lies are beyond even your ability to sell.

By what criteria are slavers to be punished?

[] Breach of Tyrosh's very sparse and effectively unenforced per-existing laws on the treatment of slaves (Ex: it was illegal to make a slave kill his or her own children unless in direct defense of the master)

[] Exceptional cruelty (Ex: trying out torture implements as a public spectacle)

[] Write in


What task do you set for Saan?

[] Find and bring to heel the last of the Tyroshi fleet of 'pirate chasers'

[] Focus on Westerosi shipping to enforce the notion that your gaze is now fixed firmly west

[] Write in


OOC: Just like the last part, if you want to add anything feel free to do so.
 
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@Azel @DragonParadox if we are letting Rohar* out of turtle form, can we force him to expend his spell-slots/use the seeker. Seems sensible, but sometimes things slip through, and a deamon with greater dispel and then Rohar teleporting away would suck.

*Rohar.

Roooooharrrrr. Hmm. I really like that name. Damnit! Why did he have to be evil :(
 
@Azel @DragonParadox if we are letting Rohar* out of turtle form, can we force him to expend his spell-slots/use the seeker. Seems sensible, but sometimes things slip through, and a deamon with greater dispel and then Rohar teleporting away would suck.

*Rohar.

Roooooharrrrr. Hmm. I really like that name. Damnit! Why did he have to be evil :(
Evil's not the problem. It's that he was stupid evil and was against us.
 
I think better selling the ruse of our Western Ambitions is well worth a few 'Pirate Chasers'. They can fall in line or sink once we set up the toll.
 
[] Breach of Tyrosh's very sparse and effectively unenforced per-existing laws on the treatment of slaves (Ex: it was illegal to make a slave kill his or her own children unless in direct defense of the master)
... You know, laws tend to be made when the need arises ... so this is apparently a thing people do ...

And Dany thinks she would loose sleep over the death of those ass-monkeys. :facepalm:

[] Find and bring to heel the last of the Tyroshi fleet of 'pirate chasers'

[] Focus on Westerosi shipping to enforce the notion that your gaze is not fixed firmly west
@DragonParadox, can't we send Moonsong with the Rhealla and our own fleet to chase down the Tyroshi vessels while Saan gets himself a new lion pelt?
 
@Azel in an effort to further sell our Westerosi ambitions, could we moderately expand the list of approved targets from -> Lannisters and Royals to -> Same + most closely allied houses? Say, like the Arryns, Tywin's strongest supporters in the Westerlands, maybe the Crownlander houses who sold out on us. Types like those, hardly people we want to please and ripe for further selling the illusion that we're ramping up anti westeros operations.
 
You can certainly do so though Moonsong might find them poor sport.

Which brings us to the thorny matter of moonsong... namely, the fact that if we dont secure her loyalty permanently somehow, and soon, she'll quickly grow out of our price range. By the time we take Westeros she'll cost one of those flying aircraft carriers we wanted to build a while back... for a few years of service before we have to bribe her again.
 
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@Artemis1992 what if Viserys invests 10-20k XP to lean on lya's soul lore to make that sacrilurium that we were offered by the mirror mephit, but instead of it being a separate being, it is an extension of Viserys with 1/2 to 2/3 of his hd/cl

Allowing him to do all the stuff and be a parent. But this is like 2-3 in-game years mind. I think it would be worth the effort to get another body and brain meat to express his soul through at that point.

Worth it at level 17-20 imo, for a clone body that can cast teleport and is under Viserys' control (as it is part of him), and allows him to be an actual parent And do his job.

Can't leave it all to Lya!

Edit: we would need to find a way to bribe Goldfish. Maybe purposely kill someone that looks to be an obstacle instead to taking the effort to diplomace then.

Or we can push Araune down some stairs some day. That might be worth his (and everyone's) consent to spending a lot of XP to gain a second (fully mentally entwined) body

No, that's a ridiculous XP expenditure, even at level 20. What you want is the Simulacrum spell. Lya can learn it when she levels up and gains access to 7th level spells. To create a Viserys Simulacrum, it would cost 700 XP, or 800 if Viserys is level 16 by then. It would be perfectly capable of doing what you want, without costing a stupid amount of XP.
 
She should already be fairly well inclined towards us, if we want real fey loyalty Danny will have to actually start her own court.

Which is...

A thing?

@DragonParadox can we get knowledge rolls for how fae create courts?
 
@Azel, I still think it's prudent to set free party members on clearing catacombs now. The sooner we start, the sooner we finish and have one less problem to worry about in the mess that Tyrosh is.

That said...
Well, I'm starting to lean towards tarrangar's point of view on these guys.
MAIM KILL BURN MAIM KILL BURN
Ahem.
 
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Personally I hope punishing "excessive cruelty" leads to like. 50% casualties.

Also interesting to see a bit of dark and ruthless pragmatism from Danny.
 
No, that's a ridiculous XP expenditure, even at level 20. What you want is the Simulacrum spell. Lya can learn it when she levels up and gains access to 7th level spells. To create a Viserys Simulacrum, it would cost 700 XP, or 800 if Viserys is level 16 by then. It would be perfectly capable of doing what you want, without costing a stupid amount of XP.

Level 7 spells.

So... close...

Maybe if we're lucky a dragon will try to kill us. That should be a decent way to get XP. That Shadow Dragon that Tiamat has would be nice.
 
No, that's a ridiculous XP expenditure, even at level 20. What you want is the Simulacrum spell. Lya can learn it when she levels up and gains access to 7th level spells. To create a Viserys Simulacrum, it would cost 700 XP, or 800 if Viserys is level 16 by then. It would be perfectly capable of doing what you want, without costing a stupid amount of XP.

The amount of XP may be too much, that is absolutely up for debate, but I don't want Simulacrum. I want Simulacrum 2.0, a level 9 spell or level 8/9 ritual. No forking, but a weak, expensive one off rip-off of lya's soul lore multi-body capstone, not for any in game power reason, but solely for the fluff of "Viserys actually has time to be a proper parent and do his job"

Note that this is way off. I only said 15-20k to get across the scale of what I want. Which is so much more than a simulacrum.

Never get a fork to raise your kids, you're better off with a nanny than a fork*.

*Saying this will all my authority in both parenting and the field of forking.

Edit: once again, would like to throw Lya into combat plz!
 
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The amount of XP may be too much, that is absolutely up for debate, but I don't want Simulacrum. I want Simulacrum 2.0, a level 9 spell or level 8/9 ritual. No forking, but a weak, expensive one off rip-off of lya's soul lore multi-body capstone, not for any in game power reason, but solely for the fluff of "Viserys actually has time to be a proper parent and do his job"

Note that this is way off. I only said 15-20k to get across the scale of what I want. Which is so much more than a simulacrum.

Never get a fork to raise your kids, you're better off with a nanny than a fork*.

*Saying this will all my authority in both parenting and the field of forking.

Edit: once again, would like to throw Lya into combat plz!
There are ways to be in multiple places at once. Namely divine ranks but still.
 
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