A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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- Chile
Oh, there'll be a hell of a lot of "repossesing" before the day is out. Plenty of acceptable piñatas targets everyone can get behind, Partymembers, ex-slaves, enemy magisters, freaking everyone.
Seriously though, if we can't sell them because diplo hit, but we don't return them to the temples so as to reign the religions in... then what use exactly are these expensive trinkets?
Seriously though, if we can't sell them because diplo hit, but we don't return them to the temples so as to reign the religions in... then what use exactly are these expensive trinkets?
Diomedea
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- The interblag
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Ah, that's hilarious. Best typo.
I expect their coffers are a bit empty from expediting the Second Son's hiring, and other expenditures due to our actions (they probably commissioned some ships due to increased pirate activity, before we smashed the royal fleet), as well as the loss of wealth due to being run by the Rakashas for awhile.
Well, we were going to seize a good portion of magister wealth tomorrow, with our hanging of the worst of the lot. The ones who were making their money in the slave trade we can seize all their wealth (And we should still "clemency" to the families of those who were just personally the worst people. Particularly to those with younger, more moldable heirs, or the inheritor wouldn't originally have gotten the money, like if we need to hang a father and son for their father and son business in being terrible).
I expect their coffers are a bit empty from expediting the Second Son's hiring, and other expenditures due to our actions (they probably commissioned some ships due to increased pirate activity, before we smashed the royal fleet), as well as the loss of wealth due to being run by the Rakashas for awhile.
Well, we were going to seize a good portion of magister wealth tomorrow, with our hanging of the worst of the lot. The ones who were making their money in the slave trade we can seize all their wealth (And we should still "clemency" to the families of those who were just personally the worst people. Particularly to those with younger, more moldable heirs, or the inheritor wouldn't originally have gotten the money, like if we need to hang a father and son for their father and son business in being terrible).
So far none. None of them were openly looting pillaging and burning and that is what the first round of trials is supposed to be about, open and shut cases.
- Location
- Germany
Being expensive trinkets to stroke the ego of a bunch of nitwits who shouldn't be allowed to run a lemonade stall, let alone a city-state with over a million inhabitants.
Seriously. That's it.
I'm thoroughly disgusted by this find.
Diomedea
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- The interblag
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Ah, this isn't looting list. This was the list of the worst slave traders, slave takers, slave "educators," and magisters known for being harsh enough on slaves to get side-eye from other slaveholders we had them compile before the conquest during their intelligence gathering.
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- United States
Fabricate it all into normal coinage. No need to sell any of it, it's all precious metal.
Wait, none of them? @DragonParadox, weren't any of them cultists?
Surely a few of them at least had to be slavers we want to make examples out of.That is going to take a few days to get reliable witnesses and other proof for.
Wait, none of them? @DragonParadox, weren't any of them cultists?
Quite possibly, but of you want to be fair in those sorts of judgements you can't make them without at least a few days of proper investigation.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
So, shall we keep these untill we visit Braavos next month and take measure of local gods?
If, there are some that can be useful to us, trinkets from this vault can buy us more goodwill than gold they're worth.
Everything else can be melted down easily enough.
Though It's too bad nothing of that is magical.
Reconsecrating stuff to Yss or Merlin King's power, while shaping it to appropriate shape, would've been really satisfying little pick at them.
Well, Drunken God's stuff aside.
I want to fucking desecrate his stuff.
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- United States
The cultist angle was half the reason we sent spying missions into Tyrosh. We wanted to see if any of the magisters had ties with the cultists that we could exploit later on.
Because none of it is magical, all of it can be fabricated.
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- Germany
I thought the spy-mission earlier was supposed to give us enough worst cases to start some show trials right away?
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- United States
Yeah. @DragonParadox, a lot of us were under this impression. It wasn't just to peek at the cultists, it was also supposed to dig around and see which magisters we could find excuses to target.
Diomedea
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- The interblag
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Huh, sometimes I forget how lawful we made Viserys. I should have known show-trials were too slap-dash for him. Ah well. Next turn is going to be tiresome in how we decide to prioritize things. Who decided we'd have to conquer Tyrosh anyway?
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
but it also wouldn't have any metaphysical consequences :/
That's the only thing such amount of gold can be appropriate to be changed into, imo.
As is, that's just 100k gold.
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- United States
What metaphysical consequences? We were explicitly told that nothing in here is magical. Just fabricate it, turn it into coinage, and spend it. Also, "just 100k gold" is a full fourth of our current funds. Nothing to sneeze at.
The Opaline Vault is a good place to sell all of it if it turns out we can't fabricate it.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
And that's what I was saying I'm sad about.
That none of it was magical, so giving it to other gods won't change a thing.
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- United States
Oh, you were upset that none of it is worth sacrificing since none of it is magical?
See this as a sacrifice to us instead. It's sacrificed to the treasury.
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- Virginia
[X] Keep them, they are yours by right of conquest
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- Germany
By the way, a short ride through the state of Tyrosh, for those who don't want to brave the spreadsheets:
Tyroshi Trade Revenue: 4.6 Million per month
State Income: + 60,500 IM per month
State Expenses: - 39,000 IM per month
Monthly balance + 21,500 IM
Law Enforcement Efficiency: 75% *
Administration Efficiency: 66% *
State sponsored healers: 0
Infrastructure Quality: 75%
* Numbers are estimated. Unknown amounts of corruption likely lower them
Monthly Trade Balance (negative values are net-imports, positive net-exports):
Basic Goods (Food, simple clothing, etc.): - 15,000 tons / - 300,000 IM
Artisan Goods (Tools, Ironmongery, etc.): + 1,400 tons / + 392,000 IM
Luxury Goods (Fine clothes, Jewelry, etc.): + 140 tons / + 210,000 IM
Raw Materials (Lumber, Stone, Iron, etc.): - 2,400 tons / - 271,200 IM
Luxury Materials (Silk, Gems, Dyes, etc.): - 400 tons / - 533,200 IM
Total Balance: - 502,400 IM
So we got a lot of money in comparison to the regular state expenses, but the infrastructure and government is reeking worse then a Daemon corpse.
We've got a hilariously tiny sum in comparison to the size of the whole economy.
Lastly, Tyrosh is right now bleeding wealth. This is a combination of having the economy large propped by exploiting the Disputed Lands (something we can't do for now) and by our rather aggressive restructuring of the local trade over the past year.
Tyroshi Trade Revenue: 4.6 Million per month
State Income: + 60,500 IM per month
State Expenses: - 39,000 IM per month
Monthly balance + 21,500 IM
Law Enforcement Efficiency: 75% *
Administration Efficiency: 66% *
State sponsored healers: 0
Infrastructure Quality: 75%
* Numbers are estimated. Unknown amounts of corruption likely lower them
Monthly Trade Balance (negative values are net-imports, positive net-exports):
Basic Goods (Food, simple clothing, etc.): - 15,000 tons / - 300,000 IM
Artisan Goods (Tools, Ironmongery, etc.): + 1,400 tons / + 392,000 IM
Luxury Goods (Fine clothes, Jewelry, etc.): + 140 tons / + 210,000 IM
Raw Materials (Lumber, Stone, Iron, etc.): - 2,400 tons / - 271,200 IM
Luxury Materials (Silk, Gems, Dyes, etc.): - 400 tons / - 533,200 IM
Total Balance: - 502,400 IM
So we got a lot of money in comparison to the regular state expenses, but the infrastructure and government is reeking worse then a Daemon corpse.
We've got a hilariously tiny sum in comparison to the size of the whole economy.
Lastly, Tyrosh is right now bleeding wealth. This is a combination of having the economy large propped by exploiting the Disputed Lands (something we can't do for now) and by our rather aggressive restructuring of the local trade over the past year.
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- Toril
[X] Gift them back to their parent temples where they still exist, gaining good will, but also making it clear that the rules havechanged (DC 25 Will save).
I want to have some goodwill with the temple of trios. Even if we give the statue of the weeping lady back, were still abolishing the temple, right?
Wait what? I thought the Temple of trios was the one we had problems about? What did the Weeping Ladies Temple do?
Garin spent most of his time gathering information on cult paces and abilities, not so much gathering evidence against prominent magisters.
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- Germany
@DragonParadox, what did we get out of our spy mission to Myr this month? That kinda went under in the pre-Tyrosh chaos.
Would be neat if we could get those results when we get their reply.
Would be neat if we could get those results when we get their reply.