I wish we had spies lots and lots of spies we likely won't be able to convince the famous bald dickless spy to work for us cause in canon he hates magic. Any idea who we can replace him with also have we ever considered putting all nobles under magical binding oaths to not betray us.
Nope, not about Ysilla, it's about the mages without hands, so they don;t panic or freak out while we are away. We can talk about their options (bp, or wait until we get regenerate) and then head off again before they fall into despair and such due to not having hands.
Edit: Yeah, I'd rather wait until everyone is "asleep" well, not us, because we never sleep. We ordered our attending healer to keep them under until we could deal with them, so I think they'll keep until it gets dark at least. It's already been at least a few hours if not more.
NEVARRRRR! . I just don't want to have it waiting for two or three days when we can, and should do it right now. Hell, we could have just "gone into our cabin" on the boat or some such while it was travelling.
@DragonParadox, are they being kept sedated at the moment? I know that's not really too viable without giving them so much opium they're strung out completely, since herbs can only get you so far. But if they've already awoken, can we just background that discussion, given they don't really have room to negotiate with us to begin with, just thank their good graces they got kidnapped by someone with a conscience.
I don't really want to break up the Runestone updates with a sidetrek. No thanks.
NEVARRRRR! . I just don't want to have it waiting for two or three days when we can, and should do it right now. Hell, we could have just "gone into our cabin" on the boat or some such while it was travelling.
Aren't they being kept in unconscious? We can go see them tonight in the middle of the night, have Danny use Remove Disease or Neutralise Poison to wake them up, and then talk. Be nice (the situation is already terrifying enough).
Yeah, just the more I think about it, the more I would prefer not seguing into an errand when we have business. One is something you make time for, one is something important.
Aren't they being kept in unconscious? We can go see them tonight in the middle of the night, have Danny use Remove Disease or Neutralise Poison to wake them up, and then talk. Be nice (the situation is already terrifying enough).
As long as they either are kept unaware, or we have spoken to them about their options regarding limb restoration, I'm happy. Don't want them to panic basically. Kept asleep seems like a handy enough way to stop panic/dispar setting in.
@Crake I'm not up for interrupting Runestone either. I've been wanting it for ages. It's just that the hand talk is pretty time sensitive imo, and short, and not likely to have an interruption.
Also, I fear a two day timeskip.
Let's have Daenerys handle that talk! She isn't with us, right? She's really good at this! She can do it offscreen and establish a temporary agreement!
I have no interest in coddling the stupid child, but I'm quite invested in Yohn's continued good will and cooperation.
[X] Yes
-[X] Tell Lord Royce of his daughter's indiscretions. A well-meaning, but foolish child's happiness is much less important than her father's trust and support. If she ends up under closer supervision, it might keep her from making another stupid decision with consequences she is unequipped to deal with.
In other news the trophy room has reached the 20 picture limit. I'll be starting a new post for that as soon as my computer comes back from repair. It's a pain in the ass to do this on my phone.
He'll tax Hell and rezone Heaven to let the Succubus strippers get back to their poles. Wand control laws and regulations will be reduced, and illegal extraplanar immigration will be curtailed.
We will build a Wall of Force to keep the Outsiders out!
Adhoc vote count started by TalonofAnathrax on Mar 16, 2018 at 9:45 AM, finished with 165824 posts and 8 votes.
[X] No -[X] The answer is obvious. Ysilla does not have to speak to her father immediately, but while we are here and when there is a moment of privacy, it may be best if she does so with our tacit support, not so much excusing her actions so much as making it obvious we were protecting her as much as we could without storming the Vale looking for Wildlings to take to account by our own hand. (Speak to Ysilla next about telling her father the deal she made.)
[X] Yes
-[X] Tell Lord Royce of his daughter's indiscretions. A well-meaning, but foolish child's happiness is much less important than her father's trust and support. If she ends up under closer supervision, it might keep her from making another stupid decision with consequences she is unequipped to deal with.
Eh, we're already moving towards happy(ish) reunion at this point of Waymar's family. Bringing up Ysilla's indiscretions pretty much means Yohn has to chastise Ysillla to some degree, dragging down the whole thing. That even gives us a ready excuse as to why we didn't bring it up immediately (wanted to let Waymar have his homecoming), but by having Ysilla broach the topic herself we didn't hide it overlong from Yohn either.
Which is the beauty of this. By abusing MoJ like that, Tywin planted himself on a political landmine.
Given time, he will bind a minor noble with it. There's no way he will resist that urge forever. Maybe Tyrion is already under MoJ, since it's well established how much Tywin hates his antics.
Just one noble who can attest to this having been done to him and even the lepers won't want Tywin near them.
This infringes so much upon the liege-vassal contract that if it becomes known, his vassals would literally be staying away in fear, which ironically would make it even more imperative for Tywin to ensorcell them.
For all that we delicately avoided asking the Royces support in the coming civil war, I think Bronze Yohn will give us the answer to that exact question in two days time.
We shouldn't push but let yohn "choose" of his now free will. Er, also didn't yohn help to protect Jon snow? Or is that just my head canon? If he did, we should thank him with a suitable gift..
I get that y'all want to be nice to Yssila, but you need to look at this from Yohn's PoV. Withholding this information is not going to look good at all, regardless of any explanation we try to give or encouragement we provide Yssila to confess on her own.
I was thinking there would only need to be a few golems maybe one colossal golems to protect the whole place cause come on who would want to fuck with that. Also thanks for telling me this stuff.
Yohn... what does Yohn have to do with Jon at all, Genji?
There are two (okay three) people alive who have an inkling about what Jon's origins are in canon. And in ASwaH that number is like... let's see, confirmed, Ned, Howland, Brynden, Viserys, Dany, Rhaella, Ghost!Lyanna, Jon and... probably Ser Richard? Other people in the Inner Circle might know but that's no guarantee, Viserys might be playing it close to his chest otherwise.
I'm... confused where you're coming from there.
@Goldfish, you biased yourself when you made it clear you thought of her as a "stupid little girl". I mean, what she did may have been ill-advised, she's clearly anything but stupid. Taking that stance with intent to marginalize her before her father and take away any and all future agency might just lead to her doing more actively stupid shit rather than talking with her father and making her thoughts known in a constructive manner so that he can at least reign in those impulses to throw caution into the wind.
Edit2: Also, Waymar was like twelve when he abandoned home to live in exile practically by himself in a city that might as well be a world away from home for him. But he's managed himself well enough.
Ysilla might have all the support of her family, but I'm not going to step off the "she might be useful in the future" train with pretty much anyone. Yohn will be a big help in the war, which we're actively trying to make as brief as possible with as few battles as possible.
Ysilla might be a big help for what comes after. Who says Waymar's got the only blood that'll sing?
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Mar 16, 2018 at 10:07 AM, finished with 165831 posts and 11 votes.
[X] No -[X] The answer is obvious. Ysilla does not have to speak to her father immediately, but while we are here and when there is a moment of privacy, it may be best if she does so with our tacit support, not so much excusing her actions so much as making it obvious we were protecting her as much as we could without storming the Vale looking for Wildlings to take to account by our own hand. (Speak to Ysilla next about telling her father the deal she made.)
[X] Yes
-[X] Tell Lord Royce of his daughter's indiscretions. A well-meaning, but foolish child's happiness is much less important than her father's trust and support. If she ends up under closer supervision, it might keep her from making another stupid decision with consequences she is unequipped to deal with.
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Mar 16, 2018 at 10:14 AM, finished with 165834 posts and 11 votes.
[X] No -[X] The answer is obvious. Ysilla does not have to speak to her father immediately, but while we are here and when there is a moment of privacy, it may be best if she does so with our tacit support, not so much excusing her actions so much as making it obvious we were protecting her as much as we could without storming the Vale looking for Wildlings to take to account by our own hand. (Speak to Ysilla next about telling her father the deal she made.)
[X] Yes
-[X] Tell Lord Royce of his daughter's indiscretions. A well-meaning, but foolish child's happiness is much less important than her father's trust and support. If she ends up under closer supervision, it might keep her from making another stupid decision with consequences she is unequipped to deal with.
