Seriously this has all been considered for a magic school Even the flying fortress part dann I love you guys thinking of all the cool shit. Flying magic school fortress thing you'll be ducking awesome yaaaa.

Check to post up for a general overview of what we have. Also the flying part probably was considered End it previously but we are currently using them he playi in the good previously but we are currently using ancient Valerian tower in a demi/plane that we can teleport.
 
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Check to post up for a general overview of what we have. Also the flying part probably was considered End it previously but we are currently using them he playi in the good previously but we are currently using ancient Valerian tower in a demi/plane that we can teleport.
Already knew about the flying fortress I meant we should have one for the school. And that it should be funded better than an entire kingdom as long as we have enough money.
 
Magic has been back in the setting for ... about 4(?) years now?
Yeah I know just saying its more like a study group than an actual school. Also the money would be used to fund making magic items, training recruits, magical ingrediants, books, defenses, maybe golems, different departments for learning different things, teachers for things non magical expected of a magic user like finding shit and how to deal with more mundane things with magic, and maybe some magical beasts. Plus plenty of stuff I'm not thinking of also a good way to easily transition them into official positions in the government, military, adventuring etcetera
 
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Part MDCCCXXIX: Duty in a Realm Divided
Duty in a Realm Divided

Twenty-Fourth Day of the First Month 293 AC

You lean forward across the table slightly to draw lord Royce's eye then sigh, as much in honest frustration as for dramatic effect. "Truth be told, I never know if I should be vexed at the disbelief to those tales or grateful that others had not to endure the depredations of such horrors. While I can't attest to what your son regaled you with, I am certain he would not resort to embellishment," You motion to the window, closed and shuttered though it may be, and to the town beyond. "Creatures of legend walk the streets among us in these days, some harmless, some even helpful, but far too many of them are nothing but debased horrors out of mankind's darkest nightmares."

Of course not every horror is beyond being helpful, you think, recalling Azema and even Amrelath, a monster out of tales for certain, but now is hardly the time to dwell on such matters. Much like an alchemist at his craft your task is to find the right admixture of truth, omission, and deception to lead Yohn Royce along the path you would prefer... to make him want to walk that path of his own will. "There are many of them and the only true difference between them are the particulars of their dark designs on mankind and what means they use to achieve them. We fought the Deep Spawn in Crackclaw Point, where they prayed on the population as if they where cattle. We unraveled the plotting of Devils in White Harbor, Ser Richard slaying a mighty champion of theirs. Right now two of my subjects are routing out another of their depraved cults in the Stormlands. Recently we traveled to the Wall, where we saw and fought the servants of the ancient enemy who are stirring under the snow and gave aid in coin and weaponry to the Night Watch."

Lord Royce looks on with fierce intensity occasionally nodding along. You wonder if Waymar realizes the game you play. He's seen you at it often enough. Then again he has no reason to complain of your lordship any more than you can find fault in his friendship. What reason would he have to meddle?

"More tales here than I have heard and some of them of grave import," the lord of Runestone rumbles. "Tis only fair then that I admit to having sent a trusted man east, to see what manner of lord you made, highness." Seeing his son's eyes widen in surprise he adds quickly. "It was not for lack of trust in your words of judgement that I acted thus. The view can be very different from a lord's right hand as opposed to down among his subjects."

A man to whom age bequeathed wisdom to match. You feel a rueful smile with not a shadow of artifice touching your lips. "I can hardly blame you for it, though I do hope your man was careful not to trip over another dozen visitors come for the same purpose, some to watch less kindly motives."

"The Wildfire yes," Bronze Yohn shakes his head. "A weapon a decent man should think twice before using even in war. That such a thing should be unleashed upon helpless townsmen is nothing less than monstrous."

The memory of your father's final madness is as a thorn at the back of your mind.

As you struggle to keep the disquiet from your features Tyene interjects. "So I take it you do not hold with the notion that any who would dwell in the Stepstones is a murderer, thief, and brigand fit for hanging and that, 'Good King Robert gave them what they deserved'," she says the last in a high nasal voice, imitating not any single person but obviously recounting a rumor she heard recently in the Reach.

"King Robert would not order such a thing," lord Royce replies instantly, and you suspect truthfully. For all his sins the Usurper is not your father's equal in madness.

Though your hackles are raised slightly at hearing that title given to the fool in King's Landing, it is true. However much you might wish it would not be for his ass is on the Iron Throne. Instead you approach the matter from another angle. "Perhaps he would not, but from what I've heard there is no shortage of those trying to curry favor in the nest of vipers that is his court. Could you lord Royce attest to the 'honor' of all the rats scrambling about on that ship without a captain?"

You do not let the question stand for long as it is too early to expect an answer. Instead you add: "It all comes back to what I spoke of before. We live in dangerous times, yet we stand divided. Shortsighted greed is driving far too many to hoard whatever magic they can obtain, jealously guarding every scrap of it. They abuse this might to bind others, yet waste not a single thought on using it for the benefit of all. And yet darker things some are doing in their pursuit of power and glory."

"Tywin Lannister bound his sorcerers to him with curses," Waymar offers abruptly in support. "There is nothing about those magics to keep it from binding any others, even lords, to service, slaves in unseen irons."

"He wouldn't dare!" the old lord shouts, his composure shattered in an instant. His hand goes half-way to his sword on sheer instinct.

"He dared to order the rape and murder of my aunt, princess Ellia, the death of my two cousins, both of royal blood," Tyene says in a deceptively soft voice.

For a long moment there is silence, broken only by the faint crackling of a log in the hearth. One more good push and you could have Bronze on the road to war... however it is not war you seek today. "Let us not dwell overlong on the workings of fools who, as is their nature, count themselves cleverest of all. I have faith that the crows will come home to roost there in the end. For now let us look to our protections in these troubled times."

Lord Royce nods grimly, making it clear that he will not soon forget Waymar's warning.

"What gifts we brought today are those of a merchant to a Lord, as befitting of our pretense for this meeting. There are some others in that same vein marked for each of your kin, but they are the barest token of my esteem to your House. Many times has your son freely risked his life to aid me and I intend to repay this debt at least insomuch as such friendship can be. My aid I offer freely, should you require it, especially against those foes for whom common steel is not enough. Likewise I offer the very arms who can bring such enemies low and amulets of warding for your family, to protect mind and body."

"You have given me much to think on and seek counsel of those I trust in such delicate maters," the lord says at last emptying his goblet to the dregs. "You will have my answer in two days time in time meantime...." he looks at Waymar, the smile returning to his craggy features, though it does not quite banish the shadow of worry in his gaze. "You are all invited to the keep, and you had best hurry. It was all that I could do to keep Yssila from charging after me..."

At the mention of the girl Wamar gives you a questioning look, obviously uncomfortable with hiding the tangle she had gotten in from their father, but trusting you to take the lead.

Do you say something about Yssila?

[] Yes
-[] Write in

[] No
-[] Write in who you wish to speak to next


OOC: I think this may be the first time when Waymar give you a boost in a social situation, since obviously while he may not be the most smooth talker he knows and is trusted by his father which gives him hefty bonuses.
 
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I knew we had adept but there's only like 12 or so magic users in our employ.

The magic users trained there are to support the legions. We may not have a lot of magic users but we probably have the largest group PC type magic users on the Planetos.
Yeah I know just saying its more like a study group than an actual school. Also the money would be used to fund making magic items, training recruits, magical ingrediants, books, defenses, maybe golems, different departments for learning different things, teachers for things non magical expected of a magic user like finding shit and how to deal with more mundane things with magic, and maybe some magical beasts. Plus plenty of stuff I'm not thinking of also a good way to easily transition them into official positions in the government, military, adventuring etcetera

Have you seen amount of crafting with two per turn in addition the problem is not money but instead teachers. We only have one teacher currently teaching there. Each turn there so much to do that we cannot waste PC time on training the magelets .
 
The magic users trained there are to support the legions. We may not have a lot of magic users but we probably have the largest group PC type magic users on the Planetos.


Have you seen amount of crafting with two per turn in addition the problem is not money but instead teachers. We only have one teacher currently teaching there. Each turn there so much to do that we cannot waste PC time on training the magelets .
I realize that I am not discounting the efforts put into those magic users just saying its small compared to what a school would be. Also I realize it will take many many many years to make a full magical school with over a thousand magic users but it can happen maybe even within a humans lifetime albeit most of it.
 
I mean we may be manipulating him but its not like we are lying Tywin likely has many people under mind control and other dubious shit the sooner tywins dead the better and all of his shut exposed hopefully some stupid Nobel ducks up and summons demons that terrorize a kingdom which we can just come upon and save to change our image from evil sorcerous slaver to hero of the people.
 
I'm really wondering what to do about Ysilla's situation. I feel like Brynden has decided that stopping short of telling us "you're haring off into my wheelhouse now" was because he didn't really anticipate the Royces getting entangled in that business with his patsies, but now that they have, he's running into ours.

Obviously Yohn will be immediately furious, but we could probably make it clear we made sure to express our displeasure indirectly to keep them from thinking of taking advantage of her word.

And on the other hand, this might cause him to double down on keeping her under supervision, which might not be something any of us really want. Resolving it quietly has been the plan on our end for a while now.

In the end I think we should let it lie for now and then talk to Waymar about it. We can either let Yohn take measures (he is Lord and she is a member of his household, what she did was a ready and obvious danger to that household if we weren't around to intercede on her behalf, and to be honest I expect Viserys to act the same exact way about the younger members of his own household if and when he should get them).

When you have power, position and expectations hovering over your shoulders, that you should comport yourself in a certain way is so that your Lord father does not have to order you to do it. Family is only put into such position when forced to do so, and the tacit agreement of mutual support stems from trust. Violation of that trust, like one between vassal and liege, is a big no-no. Unless she intends on leaving his Household, she really should not have done that.
 
I mean we may be manipulating him but its not like we are lying Tywin likely has many people under mind control and other dubious shit the sooner tywins dead the better and all of his shut exposed hopefully some stupid Nobel ducks up and summons demons that terrorize a kingdom which we can just come upon and save to change our image from evil sorcerous slaver to hero of the people.

Wait, what?

I thought you weren't reading the updates.
 
I think we should talk to Ysilla and have her tell her father directly, I feel that would have better effects than saying something for her and we can support her if need be.
 

The man ain't an idiot. Magic is wondrous, but for all that wonder there are another thousand perils nestled within like hatchlings in a nest.

A gift of friendship can bind like the tightest of iron collars, a promise can become a leash, even from afar could a man be bound if blood is being used.

The thought that any man may become a slave regardless of status? That's a fear that is well fucking founded.
 
Yeah I know just saying its more like a study group than an actual school. Also the money would be used to fund making magic items, training recruits, magical ingrediants, books, defenses, maybe golems, different departments for learning different things, teachers for things non magical expected of a magic user like finding shit and how to deal with more mundane things with magic, and maybe some magical beasts. Plus plenty of stuff I'm not thinking of also a good way to easily transition them into official positions in the government, military, adventuring etcetera
  • making magic items,
    our adepts are doing that as part of the curriculum
  • training recruits
    that's what the adepts are (were), and why we have a basic class teaching reading and writing.
  • magical ingrediants
    like Vee's garden
  • books
    What we looting anytime we get our fingers on them, and also creating like the basice monster manual
  • defenses
    the blood magic based wards of our keep, for example
  • maybe golems
    Lya, and golems are very advanced stuff
  • different departments for learning different things
    planned
  • teachers for things non magical expected of a magic user like finding shit and how to deal with more mundane things with magic
    good idea, I think we have that in the curriculum as we intend some of our mages to become legion support
  • and maybe some magical beasts
    Vee's zoo
 
I think we should talk to Ysilla and have her tell her father directly, I feel that would have better effects than saying something for her and we can support her if need be.

Well, normally I would be more hesitant, but in this case I agree.

Why? Ysilla is sharp as a fuckin' tack. She can handle herself. I'm not saying that she should have done what she did, but I am saying that she can account for her actions just fine. Lending some support from the back will work out I think.
 
  • making magic items,
    our adepts are doing that as part of the curriculum
  • training recruits
    that's what the adepts are (were), and why we have a basic class teaching reading and writing.
  • magical ingrediants
    like Vee's garden
  • books
    What we looting anytime we get our fingers on them, and also creating like the basice monster manual
  • defenses
    the blood magic based wards of our keep, for example
  • maybe golems
    Lya, and golems are very advanced stuff
  • different departments for learning different things
    planned
  • teachers for things non magical expected of a magic user like finding shit and how to deal with more mundane things with magic
    good idea, I think we have that in the curriculum as we intend some of our mages to become legion support
  • and maybe some magical beasts
    Vee's zoo
I was thinking there would only need to be a few golems maybe one colossal golems to protect the whole place cause come on who would want to fuck with that. Also thanks for telling me this stuff. :)
 
[X] No
-[X] The answer is obvious. Ysilla does not have to speak to her father immediately, but while we are here and when there is a moment of privacy, it may be best if she does so with our tacit support, not so much excusing her actions so much as making it obvious we were protecting her as much as we could without storming the Vale looking for Wildlings to take to account by our own hand. (Speak to Ysilla next about telling her father the deal she made.)
 
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The man ain't an idiot. Magic is wondrous, but for all that wonder there are another thousand perils nestled within like hatchlings in a nest.

A gift of friendship can bind like the tightest of iron collars, a promise can become a leash, even from afar could a man be bound if blood is being used.

The thought that any man may become a slave regardless of status? That's a fear that is well fucking founded.
Which is the beauty of this. By abusing MoJ like that, Tywin planted himself on a political landmine.

Given time, he will bind a minor noble with it. There's no way he will resist that urge forever. Maybe Tyrion is already under MoJ, since it's well established how much Tywin hates his antics.

Just one noble who can attest to this having been done to him and even the lepers won't want Tywin near them.
 
For all that we delicately avoided asking the Royces support in the coming civil war, I think Bronze Yohn will give us the answer to that exact question in two days time.
 
@Azel Tywin is just as likely to be disquieted by the notion as Yohn ironically, but for different reasons. He's grasping at straws for a way to deal with mages without making a new class for them to inhabit, a foolish endeavor to be sure. Treating nobles the same way basically does nothing but create chaos, which I would admit is something he does not desire.
 
@Azel Tywin is just as likely to be disquieted by the notion as Yohn ironically, but for different reasons. He's grasping at straws for a way to deal with mages without making a new class for them to inhabit, a foolish endeavor to be sure. Treating nobles the same way basically does nothing but create chaos, which I would admit is something he does not desire.
You think that Tywin 'Rains of Castamere' Lannister would shy away from reinforcing an oath of vassalage with a magical bomb-collar?
 
The man is a monster, but he's not willing to weaken the system he portrays as being the end-all, be-all of social order. "His word = Gold" is the foundation upon which he built the Westerlands during his entire tenure as Lord.

He would be only eroding the work he did otherwise gifting VS to his strongest vassals and marrying off a batch of Lannister brides.
 
[X] No
-[X] The answer is obvious. Ysilla does not have to speak to her father immediately, but while we are here and when there is a moment of privacy, it may be best if she does so with our tacit support, not so much excusing her actions so much as making it obvious we were protecting her as much as we could without storming the Vale looking for Wildlings to take to account by our own hand. (Speak to Ysilla next about telling her father the deal she made.)


Thinking on it, @DragonParadox, could we have gathered their hand-pulp and cast make whole and then lesser regeneration to reattach them?

Edit: taking out the 'armless mages due to DP confirming sedation
 
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@BeepSmile He just invited us to the keep. I think Viserys has tact enough to engineer a situation where he can get alone with her trivially.

Edit: Err, reading comprehension failure.

I think the Tor thing can wait until night falls.
 
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