I don't like it at all, too inexpensive and more than any other spell, with Bloodwish the "Power is in the Blood".

It feels very cheap to put it on paper at all, let alone for such few resources.
I certainly wouldn't want a scroll, but a gem like the one we got from grandma or the one we looted in Volantis.
 
I don't like it at all, too inexpensive and more than any other spell, with Bloodwish the "Power is in the Blood".

It feels very cheap to put it on paper at all, let alone for such few resources.
I certainly wouldn't want a scroll, but a gem like the one we got from grandma or the one we looted in Volantis.

How about binding up the -1 CHA until the Blood Wish item is used?

Would make it both alot cheper but more significant, much like tve Oathkeeper sacrifice.

Less permanent though hopefully, unless somebody drops it down a well! :V
 
A ritual could FUCK Viserys up using just his actual blood. His Dragon KING's blood. It's why I violently hated empowering Tor when I read that section all those moons ago.

A Blood Wish cast by us bound to a gem in the hand of an enemy makes it hard to sleep at night.
 
Tor used unwilling Outsiders (& casters) to gain his own magic right.

But what if it was a willing Outsider or fey?! Like say an archon or Calpina?

We need to interrogate Tor's Skull for the complete ritual and test it. The Calpinas could form a truely mutualistic relation with mortals who seek magic now. Woah.
 
Wish loops are bad. As a player, you shouldn't do that. Relying on DP to reign us in is a bit of a dick move: he's permissive, so let's exercise some restraint!

And yes, it's a huge risk. It costs a ton of spells to organise and is a vulnerability: the ASOIaF side of this cross means that our blood is a vulnerability and a commodity desired by others. DP may decide to "balance" this by having others fuck with us through our blood.
 
I'm pretty content pretending Pathfinder doesn't exist in general, but I still wind up on PFSRD public website more than I do the DAND wiki.

Though everything in PFSRD is usually good for play as-is and the latter is home to some of the most ridiculous home-brewed nonsense, so no surprises there.


Arkalseif > spells, skills, feats and classes etc mostly (less items), use it as an additional search term in Google cause site navigation is broken. E.g. "mass fire shield arkalseif"

D20srd.org > Better than DnDwiki, should be all the Free to Play from Wizards

There's also a site that hosts near all the 3 & 3.5 books but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post that link here.
 
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I just read the Magic of Arcanis third party book that DP got the Seeker and Wine Drinker (Tor) from. You can qualify for the Wine Drinker prestige class at level 2 and you get level 4 spells at level 8 of the PrC, so Tor was at least level 10. The PRC looked pretty terrible for a sorcerer, but really really good for a gish. Full BaB and useful spellcasting, with limitations that can be worked around easily enough (with a magically bound spellcaster in a bag of holding for example)? And free metamagic feats (can include Persist spell) at a low level accessed just by sacrificing a low-level arcane spellcasting creature? Sounds great!
Of course, Vyserys is just better.

And DP seems to have taken a bunch of other stuff from that book. It has rules for a "Dreamlands" type thing, a bunch of blood magic rules that would fit into this setting...
Great find!

@DragonParadox can we take some of the setting-specific arcane spells from there somehow? Teleport Tracer as a level 4 spell sounds useful to have through Blood Wish, for example.
 
Muahahahaha! Yes! Trace Teleport is great!

Even At-Will Teleporting fiends will shit bricks when they run into our wheelhouse!

"I divined that they would follow me if I baited them with a teleport... right into my prepared ambush!"

Viserys: This devil will probably ambush me. Good thing I have Richard carrying X McGuffin around!

SOON...

"AIIIEEEEK!"
 
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Muahahahaha! Yes! Trace Teleport is great!

Even At-Will Teleporting fiends will shit bricks when they run into our wheelhouse!

"I divined that they would follow me if I baited them with a teleport... right into my prepared ambush!"

Viserys: This devil will probably ambush me. Good thing I have Richard carrying X McGuffin around!

SOON...

"AIIIEEEEK!"
That book even has Redirect Teleport as a level 5 spell!

And looking at it again, the Wine Drinker is even better for a Gish: it doesn't need Cha 10+spell level to cast a spell! And it always has low DCs, so it can just take self-buffing spells and dumb Cha like any other fighter.
It does seem dysfunctional though: it can cast lv0 spells but never learns any :/
 
If you're not sure if it's okay, it probably isn't.

I just am totally unfamiliar with the rules, is posting a link that hosts copyright material a violation? WotC haven't exactly supported 3.5 as torpedoed it (Why delete the Forums? Why?) so I'm not exactly inclined towards abiding for their sake.

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I mean standing on principle is fine, I don't entirely disagree either, but this is a public board. Big conglomerates with their hand in P&P RPGs and Tabletop have sicced their lawyers onto the front lawn of tinier rule-benders. Generally speaking if you asked a Mod "why not?" if it was in question to begin with, it probably all comes back to either "wasting time answering or sending PMs and warnings" and "getting a cease and desist letter in the mail ruined my morning".
 
I just am totally unfamiliar with the rules, is posting a link that hosts copyright material a violation? WotC haven't exactly supported 3.5 as torpedoed it (Why delete the Forums? Why?) so I'm not exactly inclined towards abiding for their sake.

Could you please take this down as personal favor to me if nothing else. I don't want mods in here, and I would hate to see you banded from the thread over something like this..
 
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I think I had a good read on what DP would think on top of what the mods would, but I didn't want to jump the gun and kick up a stink for no reason.

But yeah, I would err on the side of caution here. It hurts no one, and finding those resources won't really be that difficult to someone moderately determined.
 
Hey guys if we wanted to make a magic school I have three questions about it?
1. How much money soul it all cost
2. Where would we plan to build this
3. Who would we hire do we even have enough wizards and sorcerers to make such a thing yet?

Also if we did make one is like to find the he'll out of it a bigger budget than any one kingdom sounds good right also we need a flying wizard campus tower castle thing to host it in because everyone needs one of those
 
Hey guys if we wanted to make a magic school I have three questions about it?
1. How much money soul it all cost
2. Where would we plan to build this
3. Who would we hire do we even have enough wizards and sorcerers to make such a thing yet?

Also if we did make one is like to find the he'll out of it a bigger budget than any one kingdom sounds good right also we need a flying wizard campus tower castle thing to host it in because everyone needs one of those
...This isn't even funny anymore, you should read the updates, man.

I mean it. All the answers are there.
 
Hey guys if we wanted to make a magic school I have three questions about it?
1. How much money soul it all cost
2. Where would we plan to build this
3. Who would we hire do we even have enough wizards and sorcerers to make such a thing yet?

Also if we did make one is like to find the he'll out of it a bigger budget than any one kingdom sounds good right also we need a flying wizard campus tower castle thing to host it in because everyone needs one of those
Alright. I'm now joining in.

Read the story.
 
...This isn't even funny anymore, you should read the updates, man.

I mean it. All the answers are there.

I hesitate to recommend it, but my stress levels noticeably reduced in size when I discovered certain site features existed.

Though I advise their sparing use. It's bad form to resolve every situation like this that way. But given almost all the recent comments about them have been repeated complaints, it's probably a foregone conclusion by this point that it would do the same for you.
 
We currently have one based in the shadow tower called the Scholarium. If you check the front page we currently have several adepts and hedge wizards, in addition to at least five wizards and one archivist. We currently have Teana the sole teacher of the Scholarium until we make an Arcanum or get Belrn back from Dorne to help out. Also, there is the large class learning basic literacy.
 
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Hey guys if we wanted to make a magic school I have three questions about it?
1. How much money soul it all cost
2. Where would we plan to build this
3. Who would we hire do we even have enough wizards and sorcerers to make such a thing yet?

Also if we did make one is like to find the he'll out of it a bigger budget than any one kingdom sounds good right also we need a flying wizard campus tower castle thing to host it in because everyone needs one of those

We have one. In a demiplane. We can teleport the entrance.

More and more, I am beginning to think you are a troll
 
...This isn't even funny anymore, you should read the updates, man.

I mean it. All the answers are there.
Seriously this has all been considered for a magic school Even the flying fortress part dann I love you guys thinking of all the cool shit. Flying magic school fortress thing you'll be ducking awesome yaaaa.
We currently have one based in the shadow tower called the Scholarium. If you check the front page we currently have several adepts and hedge wizards, in addition to at least five wizards and one archivist. We currently have Teana the sole teacher of the Scholarium until we make an Arcanum or get Belrn back from Dorne to help out. Also, there is the large class learning basic literacy.
I knew we had adept but there's only like 12 or so magic users in our employ.
We have one. In a demiplane. We can teleport the entrance.

More and more, I am beginning to think you are a troll

Not a troll by the way sorry for making you mad.
 
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