Would the wall be visible if it stopped light?
Mind you, if the wall blocks the magnetic field, it would just compress it. Since the WoF effect needs gaps to have the shell close the circuit anyway, it would just increase the magnetic flux in the barrel, thus making the design more lethal.

By the way, small security advice. Don't bring ferromagnetic things close to this thing. And I mean ten meters here.
Also, blast shield to protect the crew. The shockwave when the projectile leaves the barrel is quite certainly lethal to bystanders.
 
Not at all. It's enormously powerful but also hideously costly. Sounds about right for a major artifact equivalent, with the power of: if it hits you you are dead.
Which means that once we're hitting level 18+ as a whole it's a viable project? What kind of skill checks would be necessary in order to conceive this whole thing in the first place?
 
Then we use +1 shells. The only things truly capable of no-selling it are Resilient Sphere, Wings of Cover and Wall of Force.

Though we might able to make single-use shells that cast AMF on themselves after leaving the barrel. Hideously costly, but eh.

AMF would stop WoC from being cast (and WoC need chronomancy imo, there is a point where physical fluff trumps round/turn-mechanics imo), but walls of force explicitly do not be suppressed by AMF.
 
So how usual are town-sized geodes in PoE?

Because it would be very nifty to find one for ourselves. Alternatively perhaps a Heart Tree cold bling up a cavern.
 
AMF would stop WoC from being cast (and WoC need chronomancy imo, there is a point where physical fluff trumps round/turn-mechanics imo), but walls of force explicitly do not be suppressed by AMF.
Yeah, we would need Disintegrate shells for Wall of Force shielded places. Though covering your whole keep in Wall of Force is hideously expensive and rather impractical.
 
Your question makes me feel that my comment was somehow unclear or confusing, but I cannot see how.

Visible means that it would either be translucent or opaque, stopping/reflecting some or all light. So... yeah.
Um, if this is not what you were asking, opps?
It neither light can go through nor is reflected, what do you see?
 
Then we use +1 shells. The only things truly capable of no-selling it are Resilient Sphere, Wings of Cover and Wall of Force.

Though we might able to make single-use shells that cast AMF on themselves after leaving the barrel. Hideously costly, but eh.

That's why I like Pathfinder's version of Wall of Force and Resilient Sphere. They aren't indestructible, just incredibly difficult to destroy.
 
Can I convince y'all to change to my plan? It is completely truthful, unpretentious, and could easily be expanded upon once we are behind closed doors.
 
I did propose Magic Weapon.
Greater Blink spell?
Should work nicely, though I think Ghost Touch shells should still nail you, even when blinking, through I'm iffy on the details.
Otherwise it would be the tried and true tactic of being somewhere entirely different when the artillery hits.
 
Should work nicely, though I think Ghost Touch shells should still nail you, even when blinking, through I'm iffy on the details.
Otherwise it would be the tried and true tactic of being somewhere entirely different when the artillery hits.
Ghost touch (from dnd wiki claiming d20srd origin): "Ghost Touch: A ghost touch weapon deals damage normally against incorporeal creatures, regardless of its bonus. (An incorporeal creature's 50% chance to avoid damage does not apply to attacks with ghost touch weapons.) The weapon can be picked up and moved by an incorporeal creature at any time. A manifesting ghost can wield the weapon against corporeal foes. Essentially, a ghost touch weapon counts as either corporeal or incorporeal at any given time, whichever is more beneficial to the wielder.

Moderate conjuration; CL 9th; Craft Magical Arms and Armor, plane shift; Price +1 bonus."

So, making the railgun a gt weapon ... doesn't help hitting ethereal creatures.
 
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Said pole has Hardness 10 and 30 Hitpoints, for a total of 40 electricity damage to completely destroy it.
Problem here is that's how hard it is to destroy a 1-inch thick "section". By your calculations, it's just as hard to "destroy" a 1" tall rod as it is a 1km tall rod.

Ignoring the effect of the elemental resistances of materials also skews the calculus. Yeah, even wood takes half damage from fire, but that's the assumption that went into stating out wood. Throw a log into a lit fireplace and it won't immediately crumble to ash, it will slowly burn away.

I think the solution is to either:
1) Calculate the energy of an object of known weight and velocity and see how many d6s that translates into.
2) Base your calculus on how hard it is to melt a 1" cube.
 
Which is my point. Electricity would have a much harder time affecting wood or stone then iron, since it wouldn't be able to really penetrate the material and just cause superficial damage.

The resistance is what causes damage, conduction is just that. A 100% perfect conductor would never become damaged.
 
Problem here is that's how hard it is to destroy a 1-inch thick "section". By your calculations, it's just as hard to "destroy" a 1" tall rod as it is a 1km tall rod.

Ignoring the effect of the elemental resistances of materials also skews the calculus. Yeah, even wood takes half damage from fire, but that's the assumption that went into stating out wood. Throw a log into a lit fireplace and it won't immediately crumble to ash, it will slowly burn away.

I think the solution is to either:
1) Calculate the energy of an object of known weight and velocity and see how many d6s that translates into.
2) Base your calculus on how hard it is to melt a 1" cube.
I originally calculated with a metal plate, which gave utterly ridiculous values. I fiddled with the numbers for a while and settled on the rod, since the values looked kinda sane-ish. The 300 V and 1 A are roughly aligning with the values I found for electrical burns.
Also keep in mind that "destroy" is a fairly arbitrary measure anyway. I went with "liquefied" instead of settling for "heated until half molten, thus loosing all structural integrity".

Ultimately, D&D and real world physics don't align very much, especially with electricity attacks. I mostly wanted to tie it somehow into the system instead of flat out declaring values.
 
Problem here is that's how hard it is to destroy a 1-inch thick "section". By your calculations, it's just as hard to "destroy" a 1" tall rod as it is a 1km tall rod.

Ignoring the effect of the elemental resistances of materials also skews the calculus. Yeah, even wood takes half damage from fire, but that's the assumption that went into stating out wood. Throw a log into a lit fireplace and it won't immediately crumble to ash, it will slowly burn away.

I think the solution is to either:
1) Calculate the energy of an object of known weight and velocity and see how many d6s that translates into.
2) Base your calculus on how hard it is to melt a 1" cube.
Similarly, it doesn't take 40 points of damage to destroy such a section. It takes 80 points of damage in one go, to instantly destroy it. That's 73d6 or so.

It could easily take 300+ total damage to destroy such a section, if it were taking a more reasonable amount of damage every turn.

The whole thing is super neat. But I wouldn't want to build it in this particular quest.

I'd rather cast Tsunami/Erupt/Raise Volcano.
 
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It neither light can go through nor is reflected, what do you see?

Well, in this case, black-hole style darkness due to perfect absorption of the visible (human eye) wavelengths, or indeed, all wavelengths... (though obviously one is caused by warping space-time to change the definition of "straight line" (i.e. light travels in straight line, but the medium through which that "straight" line goes through is now twisted/folded towards the black hole) and the other is a hypothetical uh... dark force wall? made of magic), but I think we may be talking past each other. I am very confused.
 
"Would it be unsafe?" Waymar asks uncertainly.

At this point I'm unsure if he's taken lessons from Tyene and is abusing this apparent naivete.

Thankfully the young Djinn's honest amazement and praise seem to be enough to draw some grudging approval from the warrior... as well as copious amounts of advice on how she should comport herself, more than she had given you if truth be told.

Thanks Airhead :)

What extra did we learn here?

"offer not the work of fiends unless attested first by a curse-breaker. Any working of death magic such as bringing true death is likewise forbidden to all"

@DragonParadox I'm not advocating selling the anti-raise amulet, but for the purpose of understanding, would selling that be a)fine b)big no-no c)legal, but distasteful.

"Such as" does not mean "limited to" still blatantly illegal.

CotF have a much longer lifespan which would tempt some people, and I think the magic helps you be comfortable in your new body.

Then there's the fact that I also want to carry out a second experiment at the same time, can you learn a class a species default qualify for by being polymorphed into that specie, I want her to try learning to be a druid while she's pregnant.

And I also think it's easier for us to convince a male CotF to donate sperm, than it is for us to convince a female CotF, to have a child with a stranger.

Finding a CotF woman who want to have a child right now, might be a good deal harder than finding a human woman, who's ready to be transformed and have a child for the right price.

The people who left the North all the way to SD for a chance to see the world and basically radiated joy at the idea of children wouldn't want to be mothers?

After all, are not you living proof of even more unlikely pairings?

No?

Dragons screw everything not to mention they have the magic to achieve a similar shape, this I have no idea unless some mad Wizard was "helping".

Those who would sell their swords in such a place as this are likely cut from a better cloth than those that fill the taverns of Essos and Westeros, at least where skill is concerned.

Nice bait brah.

Remember you introduced yourself as a simple merchant to her.

Lord of Sky and Flame is simple merchant?

[X] TotallyNotEvil

I'm not going to make an issue of it, but I still think calling ourselves a Lord of Fire and Sky is pretentious and misleading. Remember, also, that the Shaitan have complex relationships with the Djinn and the Efreet, each of which is more rightfully addressed as a Lord of Fire or Lord of the Sky than we are.

We can Fly in an AMF, they cannot.

We can burn through their Fire Defences, they cannot.

Who has the greater claim and how exactly?

That was not healing. That was dispelling the ongoing damage before it could it could keep piling up. You are still down 23 HP.

How do you treat damage transfer between forms?

Is it 1 to 1 because relative fractions would make more sense wouldn't it?

[X] "Viserys Targaryen, Lord of Flame and Sky."
-[X] Others introduce themselves as they will.

Let's see what Glyra says :rofl:
 
The resistance is what causes damage, conduction is just that. A 100% perfect conductor would never become damaged.
An neither would a perfect non-conductor, since it would not get any electrical flow. Dry wood is terrible conductor. To get around that, you need truly ludicrous amounts of energy, like in lightning strikes.

Similarly, it doesn't take 40 points of damage to destroy such a section. It takes 80 points of damage in one go, to instantly destroy it. That's 73d6 or so.

It could easily take 300+ total damage to destroy such a section, if it were taking a more reasonable amount of damage every turn.
Only 80 if you assume that half damage from electricity applies to metal, which I personally don't consider reasonable, but that's ultimately a question of faith.
I think it's an okay-ish way to derive voltage and current. Feel free to disagree there, but unless WoC ever made canon examples for that, we are probably out of luck when trying to find a "correct" value.
 
Interlude CCIV: Small Miracles
Small Miracles

Sixth Day of the First Month 293 AC

The little fey thing reminded Vee of her uncle Earg. Now of course her mother's oldest bother had been neither knee-high, blue, nor did he wear a gold-rimmed glass. He did have a gold tooth, or so he claimed at least, but that was not what brought her faded memories of the man to the fore. Uncle Earg had really liked snares and traps, almost as much as he liked to drink, boasting that he did his best hunting with enough wine an' bear in 'him to put three men under the table. A few of the other villagers even admired grudgingly that it was at least half-way true.

So it was with the little blue spirits, they did their best work drunk on dreams so she listened to the plans set before her, even though they were shaping it up to be for a place about twenty times the size of what she thought she needed to keep the lightning lizards and fright fiends from running off and whatever Irony's get came out as besides. Ge did however draw the line on some things.

"Ye don't put a spring on a door to make it stay shut on account of the animals 'll break it as soon as you can clap twice, especially something as smart as a fright fiend 'r as strong as an iron bull."

"Couldn't you use magic to keep them gentle?" came the disappointed reply.

"Then what would we be needing springs for..." Then because she really did not like seeing them all sad like that she relented. "It'd work fine for the lightning lizards."

"Urgent message! Urgent message!" one of the fake crows croaked as it landed on the table overturning plans. Then its voice took on a harried but distinctly human tone, Leila's. "A ship came in with lots of sick and some of them are hanging by a thread."

Vee was already willing herself to the docks before the bird had even finished speaking.

***​

The ship did not look healthy that was for sure. Vee was not an expert on ships but she strongly suspected that was what a sailor would call a leaky old tub... and it certainly was not helped by the lack of a mast. She could see the gangplank was down and someone was coming down, a sailor carrying two unconscious people like they were sacks of beats.

"What the hells are ye doing!?" she shouted, far more loudly then most would assume her slight form could manage.

"Captain said get the plagued sons of bitches off his ship so..."

"Get back up there and lay 'em down gently or I'll make shark feed outa yer guts!" Vee called back. The accompanying roar from the winged tiger behind her might have had something to do with how promptly she was obeyed.

To the girl's faint surprise, Leila who had been standing still as a stature throughout the exchange approached her as she was healing the two. "That's a ship out of the Saltpans from the banner, most folk from there aren't going to be able to talk to you. I'd best come along."

Maybe there was some steel to her after all, Vee thought as she headed up to the ship to sort the dying who would need help right now, from the merely sick who could wait for tomorrow.

The passengers were scared, with a fear that was all too familiar to the young sorceress. She remembered running from that fear, helpless and not knowing where to turn to, but those days were done. She walked among the sick until her magic was spent, an improbable angel of mercy, bringing hope back to those who had almost lost sight of it to soft blessings and tearful smiles. Then she walked up to the captain and punched him in the gut... that too got a few tired cheers.

OOC: A bit of slice of life with Vee.
 
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The people who left the North all the way to SD for a chance to see the world and basically radiated joy at the idea of children wouldn't want to be mothers?
Point but I still think polymorphing a human mother is easier, with the sperm sample idea, we have to think up a fertility ritual to guarantee pregnancy, and we have to make sure that the right sperm cell reach the egg, because that mass of sperm will be divided up in the progress of impregnation, and only the cell that count as the main body will stay transformed, which mean we need to Polymorph only a single sperm cell, and that's not something I think Viserys knows about in character.

Most likely his first try at transforming sperm, would be to transform 1 ejaculations worth, and there's billions of cells in that, and only one of them would count as the main body, when it gets separated in the process of impregnating the female, which mean there's an extremely high chance of the sperm transformation plan just ending in a half-breed.

And then there is my second experiment, I'm not going to give up the opportunity, to see if being polymorphed into a CotF allows you to learn the classes they qualify for, if you want that experiment to not happen, you will have to fight me for the votes.
 
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