If that Heart Three actually covers the whole Island and some of the sea there is only one thing to cast...

Cerulean Sign, only need to give Xor an item that helps against it and are set
 
Would The constant tongues have some negative effects on developing children? I imagine learning a language is much harder if everything anyone says makes sense.

It would be nice if one of the slots could be spent on a language-learning effect, so that people who speak under tongues effect don't have a problem with learning the language. Obviously this would have a difference compared to the normal neural development of children in the process of learning languages, and learning how to learn language, but I hope DP would handwave it.

DP would kneecap the Divine Insight thing right off the bat. He'd have everyone who wants to benefit from it offer up a minor blood sacrifice or serve the godswood for a month, and at that point we're better off just putting it on a regular tree.

Aboultutey, it was just a fun thought. But Divine Insight for blood (limited to non-social type skills/non stealth/pickpocket, basically a boost to craft and knowledge skills) would be a pretty good tree to set up.
 
I definitely recognize the problem of a constant Tongues effect on children's development, and I'm no longer going to push for it on the Ancient Weirwood. Maybe on a newer, smaller one with a market-wide effect if we're lucky. An accelerated language-learning effect, however, would be a dream come true and I definitely want it.
Aboultutey, it was just a fun thought. But Divine Insight for blood (limited to non-social type skills/non stealth/pickpocket, basically a boost to craft and knowledge skills) would be a pretty good tree to set up.
That would be a very nice effect for a tree. Maybe we can tack it on to another tree after the Defense Tree is grown. Maybe a secondary effect on that Tree of Tongues we were musing on before the ancient weirwood showed up.
 
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Ooh Mages Private Sanctum! Scrying concerns fixed instantly. Plus if we make it so that the Weirwood staff allows us to see through it, no risk of us getting locked out by it.
 
It wasn't the distance, but the discrete nature of the base we wanted. an uninhabited island with no natural water wouldn't be where you'd look for where this pirate fleet is coming from that's bothering your shipping. Instead she took a known pirate haven, and then announced it to everyone when she got back.

@DragonParadox would the Molten Skies Portal stand up to lava?

We could build an island wherever we'd like.


As dozens of golden eyes peer a your from the twilight of the chamber you

At you*.

Yep. A Heart Tree right out of the Dawn Age. I wouldn't be surprised if a Tongues effect on that thing covers the entire Stepstones.

Another thing--the Winterfell wards are tied to their Weirwood Heart Tree. We could potentially tie our Imperium Fortress' wards to this Heart Tree.

I don't think it's too greedy to grow the CotF a different Heart Tree, we were checking to make sure there weren't mineral deposits on the site we pick and this is obviously more valuable.

Three or more effects of our choice potentially across the island is huge and we won't get something similar anytime soon.
 
@DragonParadox would the Molten Skies Portal stand up to lava?

We could build an island wherever we'd like.

I dunno. Obsidian is good but not enough. Best would be to have strong foundations of some older material. Old stone foundations would be best. Established. Structurally sound. Not to mention extensive.

On a completely unrelated note, how deep underwater was the mind flayer city again?
 
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Part MDCLXXII: A Dream of Steel, a Memory of Gold
A Dream of Steel, a Memory of Gold

Twenty-Seventh Day of the Twelfth Month 292 AC

As soon as you lay eyes on the great arcane steel smelter Lya had poured so much gold and effort into, you understand why she insisted that it be placed well away from the Deep. It was massive, a cylinder of fused grey stone fifteen feet high, tongues of sorcerous fire lapping from its open brim edged with black oily coal smoke. Around it in a ring stand smaller drums of stone ready to be filled with coal or flux for the making of steel, with shafts set between them to allow both to be poured into the molten metal. Beyond that stand the houses of the workers who would feed the ravenous belly of the smelter as well as the guardsmen charged with keeping order and protecting it against sabotage.

Lost 2000 Gold (Permanent Wall of Fire)

Lost 1140 Gold worth of Crafting materials (Control Ring + Aradia)


Catching the flash of crimson robes in the small crowd, you come to stand beside Malarys. "It lacks something of the elegance of the Freehold, I'm afraid," you admit.

"Elegance is a fine thing indeed, but of little use when the task set is not achieved in a timely manner," he replies politely. "I certainly do not begrudge Wisdom Lya the look of her work when she must do with but a handful of barely-trained assistants the task to which entire orders of old would have been set to, even if some of her decisions leave me uneasy..."

"About the smelter?" you ask, surprised.

"Her servitors," he replies with a shake of his head. "She gifts them the power of sorcery and makes them too willful by half. In her own image they may be now, but what of centuries from now? What if the forces that have been poured into their making shape them into something wholly unlike humankind?"

You shrug. "Did you meet the fey spirits who helped erect this smelter? They are not and never have been mortal, and yet I see no cause now or in the future why that would lead to treachery. Men are and they shall remain the most populous upon this world, but I see no reason not to share it with those others who would help us build a better future."

"If the spokes of the wheel are not aligned then it might yet fly apart on a long and swift journey..." He sighs, the thin lines of his face seeming to grow more pronounced for a moment. "Perhaps you are right and I but worry over nothing as an old man trying to recapture the past long since dead."

"Not all that died must needs be buried," you encourage him.

Before you can speak further, however, you spot your mother heading towards you and make your excuses. You do not imagine she is quite ready to hear Malarys' tale yet.

Rather than embrace you as she might have done in private your greetings are simple though warm and for a while you speak mostly of her doings and only a little of yours. Dany has been staying close to her most of the time to serve as a guide and adviser as well as simply getting to know her mother. Soon the conversation moves on to the matter of today's ceremony.

"It's very impressive," your mother admits, waving a hand at the smelter that had begin to belch far thicker smoke as the first batch of steel cooks in its innards. "But things would run much more smoothly at such times if those who now stand in its shadow were more... organized."

"What do you mean?" you ask. No one seems to be tripping over each other more than normal as various officials, minor functionaries, and delegates gape at the smelter.

"There is no order of precedence, so everyone just muddles along by guessing. Well enough for tens of people, even scores, but what of when there will be hundreds? It's all very well for you to settle matters, or those your place your personal trust, in but surely that is time better spent elsewhere."

She looks around as though seeking an example. "Take that girl there..." She subtly nods in the direction of Leila Hill. "Daenerys tells me she is a Lannister bastard who fell on hard times and you came to the aid of in your journeys. But what is her place, really? She is not a personal confidant of the king, but neither is she one of the minor sorcerers you had been training to serve as armsmen. When Daenerys suggested that I have talismans of protection forged, the sheer cost was staggering. Far more wealth is passing through her hands than is seemly for a mere craftswoman. Only a royal seamstress might even hope to match it, and even that only..." She cuts herself off, likely stopping herself from mentioning something that might reveal her true identity.

What do you answer?

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OOC: I first realized the issue with Leila not getting paid when I was considering how Rhaella would see various people around your court so it's only fitting for her to be the one to mention it to Viserys.
 
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She's Leila.

Being Leila is not as great as being Lya or Vee or even Taena, but it's something.

Can we just leave it at that?
If enough people owe their lifes or minds to a PfE amulet for her they'll propably think up a nice title.
 
This is probably an excellent opportunity for pushing forward on the magocracy/imperial bureaucracy point we've been aiming at for broader government. Just leaving it as 'it's x' isn't really enough. We need some logical backing, but I'm sure others will be able to supply that.
 
She's Leila.

Being Leila is not as great as being Lya or Vee or even Taena, but it's something.

Can we just leave it at that?
If enough people owe their lifes or minds to a PfE amulet for her they'll propably think up a nice title.

I think what she's getting at is that Leila doesn't have a title, even though she's crafting shit a lot of people depend on.

In her mind a proper court has tiers, and while we kinda have that it's not clearly defined.

We're at the top yeah, and then the core of our group, then maybe the fringes, but what happens when you go a few more levels down?

Hate the old ways all you want, but there you knew your place.

Even if we make something new where people can be promoted due to merit and suchlike instead of blood, we still need to tell them where they are in such a society.
 
Finally. Time to give Leila a position at court and officially bind her to us. :D

Let's see, there was the salary of 600 IM/year which nobody really objected to, and then a general title we need to give Leila, and also an official position as Lya's most foremost assistant.
 
By the way, what was that about suggesting a talisman?

Getting someone that important to Viserys immune to mindcontrol is not optional.

As for Leila, explain Rhaella thatshe's more important than Hedgemages and Adepts and equal to Wizards, Archivists and Clerics with CL5 or lower.

I think what she's getting at is that Leila doesn't have a title, even though she's crafting shit a lot of people depend on.

In her mind a proper court has tiers, and while we kinda have that it's not clearly defined.

We're at the top yeah, and then the core of our group, then maybe the fringes, but what happens when you go a few more levels down?

Hate the old ways all you want, but there you knew your place.

Even if we make something new where people can be promoted due to merit and suchlike instead of blood, we still need to tell them where they are in such a society.
I prefer things completly informal.

Some sort of hierarchie will propably show up by itself.
 
So our courts Org Chart..

Do we want to have a high turnover rate? ie. with a higher turnover
+ subjects busy with climbing to the top of the pile
- subjects busy with each other than their job
+ more evolution
- more evolution towards sneakyness

I am not that enamored with spellcasting ability always meaning authority, that will just end up with int:20 wis:7 cha:9 people at the top.
Maybe like google does it, you have the management and a technical track you can choose to get promoted upwards.
 
By the way, what was that about suggesting a talisman?

Getting someone that important to Viserys immune to mindcontrol is not optional.
I think it was just abstracted as "suggesting" because we needed to wait til the next turn to make a new crafting schedule and get more crafting materials before we could accomplish anything.
 
Yeah, Rhaella is on to something here. I mean, this works now, but only so long as everybody is on first-name basis with each other. Informal doesn't work if you have a lot of people to keep track of.

Artemis1992 said:
By the way, what was that about suggesting a talisman?

Since a high-level artifact creator needs to be protected from mind control anyway, being influential, why not make the crafting of an immune-to-mind-control amulet part of the initiation requirements of higher positions?

Or is that too steep? I'm not as good with the D&D ruleset as I'd like.
 
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I think it was just abstracted as "suggesting" because we needed to wait til the next turn to make a new crafting schedule and get more crafting materials before we could accomplish anything.
That one is important enough to do right at the start , even at double cost.

If Rhaella dies we can deal, if someone uses her against us we have a real problem.
Another reason I want her to get on PC-rails as fast as possible.

Dany has grown from a risk and hindrance (as much as we love her, having a baby sister was problematic at times) into an asset and a person I fully trust to defend herself under any circumstances.
That's where we want Rhaella to get.
 
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I'm supportive of fleshing out our pending institutions a little more.

Rhaella's just asking for tentative frameworks and maybe a little more effort put in on our part to make things seem more courtly. And she's not wrong, this informal stuff is nice but we can keep it to our inner circle. What we have going on now works while we're a start-up, but very, very soon we are going to be well past that stage, and it would be cumbersome not to have a sort of hierarchy prepared for that eventuality where we do not know everyone of note (people with power, influence or skill) in our realm by name and face and by the holiday cards we send them yearly.

But on the same note, someone just brought up how we could be setting ourselves up for a Deadly Decadent court by handling the "ladder climbing" portion the wrong way.

Delineating things so that there are different tracks which encourage people with different capabilities to rise on their own merits seems wise, even within the same organization.

So like for the Legion, people who are supreme warriors but shit leaders might be able to advance to veteran, and then maybe some kind of "champion" position, for propaganda work if nothing else. Common soldiery relate more to their own lot then they would PCs who are to them essentially demigods.

For the Mages, just having a crafting track, a research track and a battle track would probably be enough, and then from there we could decide how much further to flesh it out. Like someone suggested a position of "Royal Archivist". We could make other special court positions, given to trusted and skilled individuals, some of which are rotating to a degree and dependent on performance, though for the most part I imagine we would not give out such titles to those who aren't capable of performing.

This breaks down a bit in some other areas. Like for instance, being a bureaucrat, you are likely either skilled with numbers, letters and politics (talking to people and intuiting their motives) or you are merely competent at them. For the former, you advance into leadership. Though I'm sure Azel can figure out a way to create a mire of positions to ascend through that involve draconian amounts of paperwork.
 
[X] Crake

Just give Leila a good salary and an official position at court (and extra prestige as Lya's assistant) and I'll be happy.
 
I think we should put Rhaella on this task. We've got the barebones of framework planned out, I think if Viserys and Rhaella sit down and discuss the practicalities around each title that could work out really well.
 
I think we should put Rhaella on this task. We've got the barebones of framework planned out, I think if Viserys and Rhaella sit down and discuss the practicalities around each title that could work out really well.
Rhaella can give input how the old established class will react to our changes. But she's not fit to design the new order.
 
I think we should put Rhaella on this task. We've got the barebones of framework planned out, I think if Viserys and Rhaella sit down and discuss the practicalities around each title that could work out really well.
No, she hasn't adapted to the New world and would likely create something too close to the old to work with Azel's plans.
 
Now's not the time to create some huge, elaborate structure and attach it to one vote. We just have to sit down and get to it at some point over the course of the next couple of turns. We could discuss it with Rhaella to give her the opportunity to offer insight on just how some unintended consequences of our decisions might crop up. To be honest she's lived life at court her whole life, and we're sort of insulated from that stuff to a large degree, because we barely even spend time you know... at court.

[X] Plan: First Step of Many
-[X] It has come to your attention that, aside from the amount of responsibility you have put upon Leila's shoulders, you are not compensating her adequately for the work she does. This brings to mind the incident wherein you left Alinor to manage your nascent realm without any money in the treasury from which to draw funds from.
-[X] You will pull Leila aside informally to talk about this, but it's less making an offer and just telling her what you plan to do, and if she has a problem with it she's welcome to speak up before you stand her in front of your subjects and slam a title down on her.
-[X] Leila will be paid 600 IM per year as part of her position as Royal Artificer. Furthermore, she is encouraged to adopt a surname to distinguish herself from the commons. This sets up another precedent: Mages who have gained recognition by their peers, but born from the lower classes, may adopt a surname for ease of identification. This is essential for paperwork.
 
I think Rhaella annoys me because she is a)the load b)eats time c)is trying to add restrictions and formality. And I hate that. She's not wrong though.

So, item crafter is a role, healer is a role and lya's assistant is a role.

Assistant, then crafter then healer in order of importance imo

We're going to need an org chart...

Also Malarys perspective is bloody weird. Like really weird. They might what... Make decisions for themselves?

Decide to fly off and explore and save lives?

Also, he considers them servitors, like constructs.

@DragonParadox does he not understand that Aradia and Mercy have mortal soul-stuff or something? Or does that somehow not make a difference from his perspective?

And most importantly, can he cast summon clockwork mender swarm?
 
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