What title does Viserys have now? Has he officially declared himself King of the Stepstones?
Yep. Official King in the Stepstones.

It's more unofficial King in the Stepstones. We don't have a crown for it yet, nor have we had a coronation ceremony. We're likely to do something like that after we take Tyrosh.

Speaking of, we still don't have a nice subordinate to run Tyrosh for us. We lost the command staff at Westhaven, and no notable NPCs have really popped up who might fit the role. Having to shop for a local is looking a lot more likely...better start keeping an eye out for a down on its luck noble house. A competent woman might be ideal, since she'll have some issues with authority, but not so much as to make things impossible (like in Westeros), making her more dependent on us.

It'll be nice to return the title of Archon to its roots though. Tyrosh wasn't originally a free city, since it was run by an Archon (read: governor). If we could pull off Tyrosh being run by a rotation of bureaucrats, but still being in our personal demesne....that'd be the ideal, but I'm not sure how feasible it is. Hrm, Tyrosh is used to "democratically" electing their leadership, and they just overthrew a tyrant in the aftermath of the Ninepenny Kings. I'm not sure if that would make a "temporary" governor more palatable than a hereditary overlord or not.
 
It's more unofficial King in the Stepstones. We don't have a crown for it yet, nor have we had a coronation ceremony. We're likely to do something like that after we take Tyrosh.

Speaking of, we still don't have a nice subordinate to run Tyrosh for us. We lost the command staff at Westhaven, and no notable NPCs have really popped up who might fit the role. Having to shop for a local is looking a lot more likely...better start keeping an eye out for a down on its luck noble house. A competent woman might be ideal, since she'll have some issues with authority, but not so much as to make things impossible (like in Westeros), making her more dependent on us.

It'll be nice to return the title of Archon to its roots though. Tyrosh wasn't originally a free city, since it was run by an Archon (read: governor). If we could pull off Tyrosh being run by a rotation of bureaucrats, but still being in our personal demesne....that'd be the ideal, but I'm not sure how feasible it is. Hrm, Tyrosh is used to "democratically" electing their leadership, and they just overthrew a tyrant in the aftermath of the Ninepenny Kings. I'm not sure if that would make a "temporary" governor more palatable than a hereditary overlord or not.
I'd be all for making two of @Azel's Greater Ribbons of Disguise and sending Maelor and Glyra into Tyrosh again for round two. Going in and conquering the city right off the bat before we even have the beginnings of a candidate for Archon will end in so much wasted time for us. Also we just need to know which houses to avoid harming. They can't all be moronic fiend-summoners.
 
How about that ironborn subordinate to Damphair who went over to ourside during the npc powersteuggle?

Edit: Or a Lya Arcanum.

Editedit: Or a pendragon empowered by the Old Gods. Like druid levels or something.
 
Last edited:
How about that ironborn subordinate to Damphair who went over to ourside during the npc powersteuggle?
It'll be much easier for us if we don't use the pirate for this, useful though he might be.

It's one thing if the Tyroshi chaff under a Valyrian-blooded overseer set up by us, but a complete lack of respect is guaranteed if we make the pirate the Archon. That's a surefire way to lose the poor bastard the second our backs are turned, probably with a Daemon taking his soul so we can't even bring him back.
 
Last edited:
Velen then, DP hinted at him gaining PC levels given the chanceafter the chalice...

Or the Lampad, although it will be less awkward to ask Velen released from his oath if the phoenix accepts.

How about Xor, if he still has time to learn embroidery during. :V

Edit: Hermetia!
 
Velen then, DP hinted at him gaining PC levels given the chanceafter the chalice...

Or the Lampad, although it will be less awkward to ask Velen released from his oath if the phoenix accepts.

How about Xor, if he still has time to learn embroidery during. :V

Edit: Hermetia!
@Fehu, let's make sure the first overseer is someone we're completely fine damning to potential permadeath, because the Tyroshi will certainly make an attempt on their lives. After a few times putting down rebellions and utterly crushing and looting the rebellious houses, then we can send in people we actually give a damn about.
 
Hermetia is actually someone I trust enough to put in the position, but I don't want her to die a second time, this time being our fault. She'd also have a lot stacked against her. She'd be Volantine (traditional boogeyman of the Three Daughters), a woman (not as bad as Westeros, but still another obstacle for her authority), and wouldn't have any local contacts of her own.

I support sending Glyra and Maelor back in with upgraded disguise ribbons to:
a) make a list of the worst slaveholding houses, not the ones who are merely involved in the trade, but who are famous for slave raiding, breaking in unruly slaves, or their sheer dedication to it (we need some examples to be made to seem honest to the newly freed slaves, but by limiting it to only the worst, the ones who are famous in a slave owning society for such things, we also signal to the other noble houses that we're not unreasonable since most of them got off with only the slaves being freed).
b) Investigate down on their luck and/or ruined noble houses. These are the sorts who will be most willing to see an upset of the status quo, which also fits the profile for some types of doomsday cults, so two birds, one stone.
 
Last edited:
All in all pretty impressive for someone from a tribe stuck in the stone age regarding their tools
You know, Ive been thinking about something like that. People are usually limited to lv 5, yes? Maybe level 6 for older people without really breaking into "exceptional" territory.

But, what if that only counts actual class levels, instead of what we've, or I've, been thinking of as ECL?

The minotaurs got two fighter levels awful quick, especially as they would already have been, tecnically, level 6. Yet just a bit of training raised them, much like any other soldier.

Does it mean they naturally have the capacity to go to ECL11?

If so that'd be tremendously helpful. It might be short of 12ths feat, but it is just enough for them to pick up a third iterative, and that often makes all the difference.
Hermetia is actually someone I trust enough to put in the position, but I don't want her to die a second time, this time being our fault. She'd also have a lot stacked against her. She'd be Volantine (traditional boogeyman of the Three Daughters), a woman (not as bad as Westeros, but still another obstacle for her authority), and wouldn't have any local contacts of her own.

I support sending Glyra and Maelor back in with upgraded disguise ribbons to:
a) make a list of the worst slaveholding houses, not the ones who are merely involved in the trade, but who are famous for slave raiding, breaking in unruly slaves, or their sheer dedication to it (we need some examples to be made to seem honest to the newly freed slaves, but by limiting it to only the worst, the ones who are famous in a slave owning society for such things, we also signal to the other noble houses that we're not unreasonable since most of them got off with only the slaves being freed).
b) Investigate down on their luck and/or ruined noble houses. These are the sorts who will be most willing to see an upset of the status quo, which also fits the profile for some types of doomsday cults, so two birds, one stone.
I'm still in favor of doing as much of a social/quiet takeover for as much as we can before a military one.

Dany completely fucked up by letting the nobles she conquered essentially free when she had to impose a drastically altered code of laws, that is, banning slavery.
 
Dany completely fucked up by letting the nobles she conquered essentially free when she had to impose a drastically altered code of laws, that is, banning slavery.
Nothing better to start out your new rule with some precision purging, killing those that won't play bay and rewarding those that do, so that they're cemented firmly as traitors of the old order and thus invested in the new status quo continuing.
 
For that sort of thing, we should have Garin with them, and tyene with an inbued dimension door (lya should learn inbue spell) and or a message for emegrency retreat and then (after a ten minute cast time), extraction.

Or one end of a brazier pair. How small and transportable can we make them? Or even just one end of the pair?
 
I'm still in favor of doing as much of a social/quiet takeover for as much as we can before a military one.

Dany completely fucked up by letting the nobles she conquered essentially free when she had to impose a drastically altered code of laws, that is, banning slavery.

We likely wont get full local contacts the way we might have, had Westhaven not exploded into an orgy of violence, but there should still be a few opportunities.

We might want to reserve some crafting time to drastically expand our seagull/raven numbers to help serve as surveillance drones (their original intent, I think?).

A combo of surveillance and divination should help us jump any early attempt to organize rebellion, which lets us start the divide and conquer social strategy.
 
For that sort of thing, we should have Garin with them, and tyene with an inbued dimension door (lya should learn inbue spell) and or a message for emegrency retreat and then (after a ten minute cast time), extraction.

Garin's going to be busy rooting out and murdering the more dangerous spies that have set themselves up in Sorcerer's Deep.
 
"What the hell happened to you two?"

Glyra was floating, unruffled and unphased as all get out, with not a hair out of place more than usual, which is to say her clothing was even more colorful and flamboyant and she wasn't injured to any real extent, barring the bandage over her forehead--no, she was unwrapping it. Maelor glared at her, half his face swollen as if it'd been beat raw with a mallet. A flash of light from Vee's open palm and his features resolved into their previous uninjured state.

"It's a long story," Maelor explained. "But it can be summed up by this: The world sends everything Glyra's way, it misses, and then hits me."
 
Dany completely fucked up by letting the nobles she conquered essentially free when she had to impose a drastically altered code of laws, that is, banning slavery.
Her main problem was being pants-on-head retarded.

She opened with blanket cruelty, thus antagonizing the entire nobility.
Then she let's them all be and kindly asks for obedience without any incentive or consequences for resistance.

Yeah. Great plan there girl...
 
Last edited:
Her main problem was being pants-on-head retarded.

She opened eith blanket cruelty, thus antagonizing the entire nobility.
Then she let's them all be and kindly asks for obedience without any incentive or consequences for resistance.

Yeah. Great plan there girl...

Yeah, undirected brutality served only to unite her opponents against her. If she had been more selective, it would have been better, as it wouldn't have so solidly united the ruling class against her (hard to win over the ruling class when you've just made sure to have wronged every single one of them by murdering their family members). If she had been more brutal, it would have been better (a wipe of the ruling class would have meant she'd have time as new factions formed to cement her position). If she had been less brutal is also would have been better (since they would have been slow to realize how serious she was, so they would have started out continuing the game of politics, again giving her time).
 
Her main problem was being pants-on-head retarded.

She opened with blanket cruelty, thus antagonizing the entire nobility.
Then she let's them all be and kindly asks for obedience without any incentive or consequences for resistance.

Yeah. Great plan there girl...
I think she might have drifted into the realm of full Chaotic Evil towards the end of her reign. Some of her actions simply can't be justified.
 
I think she might have drifted into the realm of full Chaotic Evil towards the end of her reign. Some of her actions simply can't be justified.
Which is why I honestly detest canon Dany.

She blunders through the world without any plan or even thinking about the consequences of her actions and yet everything somehow goes her way.
 
I think she might have drifted into the realm of full Chaotic Evil towards the end of her reign. Some of her actions simply can't be justified.
Not really, she was still trying to bring peace in her city, even if she didn't know how.
The marriage to Hizidar is a good proof that she was heavily invested in trying to fix her shit and pay for her mistakes, it was just a really bad idea, not evil.
 
Part MDLXXXIII: A Matter of Honor
A Matter of Honor

Eleventh Day of the Twelfth Month 292 AC

"Hail, Lord Baratheon. As you have asked in the hopes of ransoming your brother so we have come," you call out to the small company of knights that halts perhaps a dozen steps in front of you, Ser Richard and Tyene. You note the knights bristling at the fact that you do not name their lord master of Storm's End, yet the man himself inclines his head in understanding if not acceptance before looking up at you with more interest then hostility.

"Hail, Lord Targaryen," he follows your lead. "I am glad this meeting come to be given current circumstances between our Houses. Know that while I cannot name your friend, nor be happy for your company, it gladdens my heart that you would still follow the precepts of chivalry, that I may know my brother safe and soon free."

Though you search with all your skill for any trace of deception, you find none, and from the slight shake of her head neither does Tyene. Would a manifest refection wrought of fey sorcery love kin as the man of flesh and blood once had? Does he have fond memories, or is he merely a puppet going through the motions to perfection? All questions that you cannot ask. So instead you pose another that had been much on your mind ever since you first received the letter seeking after Stannis.

"One wonders why it was you who made the offer and not your eldest bother and overlord of both Storm's End and Dragonstone?" You cannot quite bring yourself to name the Usurper king even in such company, a fact which is again noticed. The knights look truly offended now and even lord Selwyn is near to glaring at you, though it might be from the nature of the inquiry.

"I am not privy to the king's thoughts in this, having newly come into lordship and returned from Highgarden," the changeling answers, a shadow passing over his boyish features, though whether it is directed at you or his 'brother' you do not know.

The mention of Highgarden does call to mind the stories of uncanny things in the woods and fields of the Reach and those who dealt with them. How high does their reach go?

The man before you, if man he be, holds at least some of the answers you seek, yet how could you ask in such company? Perhaps you should....

"Lonmouth," the word is spoken softly with disgust as one of the six knights steps forward. "That you would dare..."

"Criston!" Baratheon-blue eyes suddenly stormy with wrath fall upon the man bearing the heraldry of white scroll on a field of purple. "What quarrel have you that you would bring forth now... here?"

The knight, a large man with a jagged scar running down his left cheek to his jaw turns sharply to his lord and says through clenched teeth: "This cowardly son of a bitch let my brother, pledged as his squire, die screaming so he could flee east to lick..." He cuts himself off abruptly, just short of offering insult to you.

Ser Richard looks at the other man with a measure of recognition, but no other expression upon his face. Whatever his own honor may demand you know that here, upon this field, he is your sworn sword before all else.

What do you say?

[] Write in

OOC: I rolled initiative to see if Viserys could interfere before a duel was demanded and he passed, though of course you can stay silent.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top