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What about Snek's avatar?
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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We don't know where it stands now.
What island fortress? Tyrosh is not one of those. The only worth of that city is wealth, all of it's mages were killed by Rakshasa so I see absolutely no reason to get into governance and rule of something like that.
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Here's the thing: I have no interest in that quest. At all. It's just Mantarys 2 with the reward being the resurrection of a person I care nothing about.
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Huh? Tyrosh is the quintessential island fortress.
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Or we could leave things behind the Wall there until we rule Westeros.
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Going to Dragonstone is a prerequisite for that trip, though.
Edit: And we may as well add Crackclaw Point and Driftmark into the Dragonstone trip.
We don't exactly have a choice on engaging with it, even if we never use it ourselves. Armies will be fielded against us, and we'll have to either beat them with just PCs or raise at least some form of an army.
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Sure, we teleport behind the army and kill the leader.
Aside from that, no army of peasant levies would walk through a Fire Wall, or keep fighting after we made a few strafing runs with the Breathweapon. There is a reason three Dragons where easily enough to conquer the continent.
Parties are far more dangerous.
Ok, point taken - it have a good walls. This is it. Much of it's wealth comes from a slave trade, no mages, ugly city, shits for inhabitants, little Valyrian loot etc. Basically another Mereen that takes years to stabilize for meh prize.
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Don't forget that they are getting parties of their own.
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A continent with basically no magic of any sort, at the time.
Mages are capable of being force multipliers. Healing alone does a lot for that. And remember that cavalry - that is, knights in the OTL sense - makes up a fairly large fraction of Westerosi armies; those aren't the same as peasant levies, they're Fighters (if not especially high-level for the most part). High-level parties may beat armies that lack magical support, but an army supported by a mid-level party and a bunch of low-level mages is a different proposition altogether.
We can't actually solo Westeros. There's a reason we're bothering to get Dornish and other support, after all.
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One approach to the armies is just state the facts to the population after a demonstration of strength.
I am a Dragon, I can kill thousands of you at a time. I don't want to do this and as such I challenge X.
This puts X in the unenviable position of sending men to their death when those men have been told that is unnecessary and the futility of such has been demonstrated, or putting forth a champion whom we will stomp into the dust.
I am a Dragon, I can kill thousands of you at a time. I don't want to do this and as such I challenge X.
This puts X in the unenviable position of sending men to their death when those men have been told that is unnecessary and the futility of such has been demonstrated, or putting forth a champion whom we will stomp into the dust.
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Ok, say they got an army of mid-level knights buffed by low-level clerics in the Reach.
Then we go and teleport to the Westlands.
You can't keep the important people surrounded by armies 24/7. In the end actual parties on a similar level as ours are the big threats, not common troops.
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And how do you expect to hold territory with 10 guys and a horror from beyond?
Breaking the might of the current ruler is nice, but you need to have an alternative ready or you kick off a endless cycle of uprisings which end with us ruling nothing but ruins and blighted fields strewn with charred corpses.
What you propose is Cersei ordering Clegane around to murder her enemies.
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this, even if we kill everyone important, that does not give us control of westeros, we need an army to keep the peace and the (remaining) lords in line. even during the war, we cant just hop from place to place "taking" cities and just leaving them unprotected, a band of very effective murderhobos is not a conquering army.
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Oh we will still need allies and armies, but they won't be fighting very much and they certainly won't be fighting to conquer, they may have to hold it for us.
Basic plan is cut off the head, ask the neck to see sense, if not, cut off the neck, ask the shoulders to see sense. Repeat as necessary.
Occupy with loyal (and newly loyal) forces, move on.
Always run the narrative of this being necessary, please don't waste life there is The Long Night to fight etc.
As long as the vast majority are happy to let the big dogs (and a Dragon) duke it out we can Diplomacise a good portion of the encumbent powers and out PC the rest.
Edit: You know what is the best part about TPing in, assassinating magicless lords and taking all their stuff?
Any third party they can hire to stop us realises they can do it too. Why get paid by a Lord to fight a Dragon when you can just take that Lord's money?
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That's also my plan. We march on the front of an army, smash the resistance and leave occupation forces behind with the message being "These guys are here to make sure you do what I say. Don't make me come back!"
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Ok, lets say Mace Tyrell leads an army against us.
What stops us from flying to him (Wyrmling, Invisible), grabbing him with Teleport (I assume his willsave is bad enough that even some low-level spells won't give him a good chance to resist) and then talk to him in some remote location of our choosing?
Do you think the majority of Westerosi leaders would prefer to stand against us if they know we can take them out at will?
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He'd probably have some class leveled individuals by his side but on the whole I agree.
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And if we start fulfilling our promise to the Old Gods, that's all any would-be insurrectionist needs. "They are going to feed us all to the trees."-like.
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"We're gonna feed them to the Trees. If you don't own a castle you have nothing to worry about."
Thinking more about it, I think we should antagonise Westerosi adventurers.
The Faith of the Seven is their magical powerhouse, if the Seven has to come for us that gives them shitloads of political power, power they will exercise, power that the Lords will resent. We saw a religious fracturing in canon after all.
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You are just forcing him to be clever about it and not compromise his position or protect himself.
The moment someone can raise an army against us in our own lands, we've already lost.
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im happy as long as we kill every single westerlands noble.
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Well yes, as I said, actual parties of mid-high level character are and will always be a risk. That's the nature of the game.
Part MLXIII: The Bindings of Old
The Bindings of Old
Eleventh Day of the Third Month 292 AC
Trust does not come easily to you... still less trust to Azerion's long dead master and the makers of this place. You know too well what instincts lurked in their blood called forth by the sweet temptation of the things they called forth. Still better to have some plan than none, better to hold the gem as final gambit...
By silent agreement the two warrior spirits and ser Richard walk ahead with Waymar guarding from attack from behind. For yourself you take to the air in diminutive form beside Dany, though neither of you dares to scout ahead. As you climb the massive spiral you realize the dark stone is not unmarked as you had assumed, for the witch-fire reveals dark red symbols coiling upwards towards the unseen summit. Though they look disturbingly like fresh blood at first the "ink" feels oily to the touch and proves impervious to both smudging and searing flame.
"It's the tongue of Pit," Dany says softly, "The strange thing is it looks so... elegant, refined. Like expecting to find gang markings and fining instead a philosophical treatise couched in obscure allegory."
"Is it an enchantment?" you ask, hating that you have to expose Dany to such things, but knowing that of all of you she has the best chance to gleam any real understanding in the short time you have.
Instead of answering Dany flies as close to the wall as she can, hovering in place with swift wing-beats. "I might need a bit of good fortune if I'm I'm to solve this riddle... instead of having it solve me."
"Ware daughter of dragons, for such things are all the more perilous to the wise than the simple of mind," the shining knight says, though you can find no censure in his voice only concern.
Dany looks momentarily mutinous, but she collects herself swiftly."I know, bright one, though I thank you for the warning all the same." It takes all your self-control to keep from (pointlessly) forbidding her the task.
Time slows to a painful craws, each heartbeat painfully loud in your ears as Dany struggles with the ancient script wishering incantations of good fortune again and again under her breath. Your sister's laughter breaks the silence, a weary sardonic sound that has no real place on the lips of a child. "Give me six days, six times six sacrifices and I could break the ward..."
"Interesting but..." you begin bemused, however she cuts you off. "This place was designed with the aid of the Master of the Final Incantation, either he is testing his servants in some sick game... or," a strange mix of pride and disgust enters her gaze. "The Valyrians had some way to bind a Lord of the Pit to his word, one that holds him fast to this day."
"Rather puts the geas on Azerion into perspective doesn't it?" Lya asks rhetorically.
"What does this mean for us?" you ask tersely. Now is not the time to lose sight of the goal, especially given what you can infer of the demon lord's nature.
"With a bit of blood... I think I could call forth the presence of the dead dragon to confer with it," your sister explains "He would know many of the secrets of this place old and new."
What do you do?
[] Continue on your course
[] Try to speak to the accursed wyrm
OOC: That was a DC 30 Knowledge (the planes) Dany passed.
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