I'm kind of surprised they actually tried to delay the meeting. It seems both childish and exactly the sort of thing to tweak the tail of a dragon they just pissed off.
He's contemplating his own mortality, probably, and trying to find a way to bail his ass out of the sinking ship he rode in on.

All of the stuff they did alone, if we were willing to overlook it, and we're not, would have been enough to earn exile to some remote posting on a mountain somewhere filled with water-damaged records.

Sending a letter back with them detailing how Very Not Happy we are and the work that we had to put in to save them from an even worse outcome and greater loss of face?

That's... pretty much a near-guarantee of losing your head.
 
He's contemplating his own mortality, probably, and trying to find a way to bail his ass out of the sinking ship he rode in on.

All of the stuff they did alone, if we were willing to overlook it, and we're not, would have been enough to earn exile to some remote posting on a mountain somewhere filled with water-damaged records.

Sending a letter back with them detailing how Very Not Happy we are and the work that we had to put in to save them from an even worse outcome and greater loss of face?

That's... pretty much a near-guarantee of losing your head.
I get that, but unless he's actively working on an excellent defense he's compounding his original mistake. His fate is pretty much sealed at this point, but that doesn't mean it isn't stupid to waste any wiggle room he might have left being evasive.
I wonder if he's gonna preventively commit sudoku.
If we have to literally clean up his mess in addition to figuratively doing so then I'm voting to resurrect him in the middle of Azure's court and make him listen to our public list of complaints about his everything.

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So the real question is, how are we going to subtly include a reference to every failure these guys made into the decor of their ambassadorial wing?

Maybe a painting of the kami we freed, or decorative drums in the same style as the one that guy was trapped in? Golden engravings of proverbs about prejudgement in celestial on the edges of the ceiling? Perhaps a mimic painting very obviously wearing a name tag?
 
So the real question is, how are we going to subtly include a reference to every failure these guys made into the decor of their ambassadorial wing?

Maybe a painting of the kami we freed, or decorative drums in the same style as the one that guy was trapped in? Golden engravings of proverbs about prejudgement in celestial on the edges of the ceiling? Perhaps a mimic painting very obviously wearing a name tag?
RIP poor mimic. You shall be missed.
 
I hope the part of the letter where we talk about how they banished one of our people to the far realms is underlined a few times, cause that's one of the things I'm saltiest about.

It's not a significant material loss, but they still dealt out a really pointless fate worse than death to one of our guys.
I just hope as an Aberration it's able to survive and keep its head down, and maybe one day make its way back home to Sorcerer's Deep.

Maybe as a PC.

A magpie can dream. :(
 
I just hope as an Aberration it's able to survive and keep its head down, and maybe one day make its way back home to Sorcerer's Deep.

Maybe as a PC.

A magpie can dream. :(
Maybe it'll abuse its background to level into a full casting class, and use its (relative to the locals) eldritch lore to start its own faction.

It'd be kind of funny if the little guy managed to deep one the far realms.:V
 
Maybe it'll abuse its background to level into a full casting class, and use its (relative to the locals) eldritch lore to start its own faction.

It'd be kind of funny if the little guy managed to deep one the far realms.:V

Bloodraven: Through great trial and sacrifice, the Old Gods have granted me the power to retrieve one soul from anywhere in all the realms. No matter the distance in space, no matter what bindings may hold them, if they wish to return to us, it shall be so. But choose wisely, it will be at least a decade before we can even hope to gain such a boon again.
Jon Snow: ...Does this mean we can get Rob's soul back from the Others? Your Highness, I would do anything if you could bring him back.
Viserys: ...I don't know. What about that mimic that the Yin-Ti banished?
Jon: ...What?
Viserys: Yes, the painting mimic who got banished back to the Far Realm. Poor thing was only doing its job; it should be an Imperator's duty to retrieve such a loyal citizen.
Jon: ...I...I see. This mimic must have been in a trusted position, like Mereth of the Erinyes, to be worth such a singular boon. What was its name?
Viserys: Hmm? Actually, I don't know its name. Honestly, if it hadn't been part of the mess that the envoys of Yin-Ti made, I probably would never have given it a second thought. ...But we must bring him back! Who knows what treasures and knowledge and power it must have gained? Would I even be able to sleep my two hours without knowing? No, this must be done!
Jon: ...Yes, Your Majesty.
 
I will now begin my several month-long reading journey into the long story of Viserys Targaryen, Second of his name, claimant to the Iron Throne, and the world that has been started by @DragonParadox , and expanded by all the players over the years. Thank you all for all of your dedication, and participation in this massive story.
 
I will now begin my several month-long reading journey into the long story of Viserys Targaryen, Second of his name, claimant to the Iron Throne, and the world that has been started by @DragonParadox , and expanded by all the players over the years. Thank you all for all of your dedication, and participation in this massive story.

Well, Third... but actually First... and not of the Iron Throne.

You confused yet?

It doesn't get easier. :V
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 23, 2021 at 4:38 AM, finished with 58 posts and 21 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Quietly yelling at the Azure and Orange delegations.
    ---[X] Call the Azure leader, Hua Fen, Pol Ning and her minder to one of your smaller solars for receiving guests.
    ---[X] Tell them that you have some things to say about the events of yesterday and that you want them to listen closely.
    ---[X] If they at any point try to speak up without having been given express permission to do so, immediately spend 2 Mythic Power to cast a Mythic Bloodwish to replicate Mythic Silence, centered on you and excluding yourself, effectively revoking their noise making privileges without having to actually cast anything on them. The spell is cast without any outwards sign except a swift and slight cutting motion with his hand.
    ---[X] To Azure: Both the undertones of their speech and their gifts was blatantly obvious to you. You threw them lifeline after lifeline since you did not want to cause any more of a scene than necessary. It is at this point irrelevant to you if this has been the result of arrogance, sabotage or simple incompetence. Most likely a mixture of all three. You have written a nice letter to his lord that explains their screw-ups in detail and heavily suggests for him to not send diplomats to anything more important than a pig-sty until he has cleaned house in the diplomatic corps. Next time, they should listen to Hua Fen, who as far as you know tried to prevent this mess but was not listened to.
    ---[X] To Orange: Releasing a potentially hostile Kami in the middle of a courtly function would have constituted a breach of guest right at the least and manslaughter at worst if anyone would have died from his actions. You do not know what precisely he was thinking while trying to do so, most likely nothing at all, and will be happier to never hear his justification, but he should appreciate that, had Pol Ning not interrupted him, he would most likely be dead by now, either due to palace security cutting him down or due to being hanged for the dead and wounded he caused. As far as you are concerned, he owes Pol Ning a life debt. As far as the palace security is concerned, he is a security threat and will be removed immediately, should he ever try to set foot into the palace again. State again that Pol Nings help in freeing the Kami was much appreciated, but you could not reward their delegation by accepting it right after one of theirs nearly caused a bloody war. You have written a nice letter detailing these things for their lord.
    ---[X] To Both: The Imperium is neutral so far in the Yi-Tish civil war. The events at the coronation have not changed that. They should be happy about this. If, in the future, any of the Yi-Tish factions cause harm to Imperial citizens, allies or interests in the pursuit of conducting their civil war, especially if it is done deliberately in an attempt to discredit their opponents, the response will be swift and decisive.
    ---[X] If you had to turn off the sound, remind them that speaking out of turn is exceptionally rude, then dismiss them and wish them a good journey home without actually giving them a chance to speak, lest someone wants to negotiate himself into a summary execution.|
    [X] Afterwards, furthermore ensure that there are no hard feelings between you and Hua Fen, given the... spicy... nature of this meeting. You have greatly elevated your estimation of her in your letter to Bu Gai, and hope it will be taken seriously.
    [X] Similarly, in another short meeting, tell Pol Ning you hope that her brother is listening, because although the Azure delegation was full of monumental fuck-ups, the person he was trusting the least, her, was the only one you'd trust remotely near anyone you care about. That's not a good look, considering she wasn't even nominally in charge.
    [X] Plan: Quietly yelling at the Azure and Orange delegations.
    ---[X] Call the Azure leader, Hua Fen, Pol Ning and her minder to one of your smaller solars for receiving guests.
    ---[X] Tell them that you have some things to say about the events of yesterday and that you want them to listen closely.
    ---[X] If they at any point try to speak up without having been given express permission to do so, immediately spend 2 Mythic Power to cast a Mythic Bloodwish to replicate Mythic Silence, centered on you and excluding yourself, effectively revoking their noise making privileges without having to actually cast anything on them. The spell is cast without any outwards sign except a swift and slight cutting motion with his hand.
    ---[X] To Azure: Both the undertones of their speech and their gifts was blatantly obvious to you. You threw them lifeline after lifeline since you did not want to cause any more of a scene than necessary. It is at this point irrelevant to you if this has been the result of arrogance, sabotage or simple incompetence. Most likely a mixture of all three. You have written a nice letter to his lord that explains their screw-ups in detail and heavily suggests for him to not send diplomats to anything more important than a pig-sty until he has cleaned house in the diplomatic corps. Next time, they should listen to Hua Fen, who as far as you know tried to prevent this mess but was not listened to.
    ---[X] To Orange: Releasing a potentially hostile Kami in the middle of a courtly function would have constituted a breach of guest right at the least and manslaughter at worst if anyone would have died from his actions. You do not know what precisely he was thinking while trying to do so, most likely nothing at all, and will be happier to never hear his justification, but he should appreciate that, had Pol Ning not interrupted him, he would most likely be dead by now, either due to palace security cutting him down or due to being hanged for the dead and wounded he caused. As far as you are concerned, he owes Pol Ning a life debt. As far as the palace security is concerned, he is a security threat and will be removed immediately, should he ever try to set foot into the palace again. State again that Pol Nings help in freeing the Kami was much appreciated, but you could not reward their delegation by accepting it right after one of theirs nearly caused a bloody war. You have written a nice letter detailing these things for their lord.
    ---[X] To Both: The Imperium is neutral so far in the Yi-Tish civil war. The events at the coronation have not changed that. They should be happy about this. If, in the future, any of the Yi-Tish factions cause harm to Imperial citizens, allies or interests in the pursuit of conducting their civil war, especially if it is done deliberately in an attempt to discredit their opponents, the response will be swift and decisive.
    ---[X] If you had to turn off the sound, remind them that speaking out of turn is exceptionally rude, then dismiss them and wish them a good journey home without actually giving them a chance to speak, lest someone wants to negotiate himself into a summary execution.|
    [X] Yellow Emperor of Carcosssa...
    [X] Plan: Quietly yelling at the Azure and Orange delegations.
    ---[X] Call the Azure leader, Hua Fen, Pol Ning and her minder to one of your smaller solars for receiving guests.
    ---[X] Tell them that you have some things to say about the events of yesterday and that you want them to listen closely.
    ---[X] If they at any point try to speak up without having been given express permission to do so, immediately spend 2 Mythic Power to cast a Mythic Bloodwish to replicate Mythic Silence, centered on you and excluding yourself, effectively revoking their noise making privileges without having to actually cast anything on them. The spell is cast without any outwards sign except a swift and slight cutting motion with his hand.
    ---[X] To Azure: Both the undertones of their speech and their gifts was blatantly obvious to you. You threw them lifeline after lifeline since you did not want to cause any more of a scene than necessary. It is at this point irrelevant to you if this has been the result of arrogance, sabotage or simple incompetence. Most likely a mixture of all three. You have written a nice letter to his lord that explains their screw-ups in detail and heavily suggests for him to not send diplomats to anything more important than a pig-sty until he has cleaned house in the diplomatic corps. Next time, they should listen to Hua Fen, who as far as you know tried to prevent this mess but was not listened to.
    ---[X] To Orange: Releasing a potentially hostile Kami in the middle of a courtly function would have constituted a breach of guest right at the least and manslaughter at worst if anyone would have died from his actions. You do not know what precisely he was thinking while trying to do so, most likely nothing at all, and will be happier to never hear his justification, but he should appreciate that, had Pol Ning not interrupted him, he would most likely be dead by now, either due to palace security cutting him down or due to being hanged for the dead and wounded he caused. As far as you are concerned, he owes Pol Ning a life debt. As far as the palace security is concerned, he is a security threat and will be removed immediately, should he ever try to set foot into the palace again. State again that Pol Nings help in freeing the Kami was much appreciated, but you could not reward their delegation by accepting it right after one of theirs nearly caused a bloody war. You have written a nice letter detailing these things for their lord.
    ---[X] To Both: The Imperium is neutral so far in the Yi-Tish civil war. The events at the coronation have not changed that. They should be happy about this. If, in the future, any of the Yi-Tish factions cause harm to Imperial citizens, allies or interests in the pursuit of conducting their civil war, especially if it is done deliberately in an attempt to discredit their opponents, the response will be swift and decisive.
    ---[X] If you had to turn off the sound, remind them that speaking out of turn is exceptionally rude, then dismiss them and wish them a good journey home without actually giving them a chance to speak, lest someone wants to negotiate himself into a summary execution.|
    [X] Afterwards, furthermore ensure that there are no hard feelings between you and Hua Fen, given the... spicy... nature of this meeting. You have greatly elevated your estimation of her in your letter to Bu Gai, and hope it will be taken seriously.
    [X] Similarly, in another short meeting, tell Pol Ning you hope that her brother is listening, because although the Azure delegation was full of monumental fuck-ups, the person he was trusting the least, her, was the only one you'd trust remotely near anyone you care about. That's not a good look, considering she wasn't even nominally in charge.
 
So the real question is, how are we going to subtly include a reference to every failure these guys made into the decor of their ambassadorial wing?

Maybe a painting of the kami we freed, or decorative drums in the same style as the one that guy was trapped in? Golden engravings of proverbs about prejudgement in celestial on the edges of the ceiling? Perhaps a mimic painting very obviously wearing a name tag?
I would just like to reiterate my suggestion that we should honor the custom of reciprocal gift by giving a child book of etiquette as a gift. Or maybe just threaten to as another was to make out displeasure felt lets the emperor's lose more face from such a gift.
 
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Part MMMDCCXIX: Throne's Censure
Throne's Censure

First Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

Alas, you do not have a throne to loom over the combined delegations of Yin and Trader Town, for it would be an undeserved honor to grant such a private audience. Instead you make use of one of the more austere meeting rooms, designed in fact mostly with the Legion and other military commanders in mind. It is meant to give an impression of cold practicality and allow one to get down to business without the eye wandering over ornamentation. As a venue to meet diplomats it has the virtue that nothing can distract them from your own less than pleased presence.

There are not even any refreshments in sight, a fact which you had to impress upon the palace spirits who were less than pleased at the lapse of hospitality, until you had explained just what crimes the ones you were meeting had made themselves guilty of. From the way more than a dozen pairs of eyes flash across the camber, as though looking for a corner to hide in, one can call the attempt a success at least...

"I shall be brief," you begin coldly into the dead silence of the room. By spellcraft you speak perfect Yi Tish with the sort of archaic flourish that only makes it seem more formal. There shall be no misunderstandings today, you vow. "It does me no joy to be in this position as a host, but your deportment during the coronation yesterday must be addressed." You turn first to the eunuch near to trembling in his fine silks. Though you project no dragon awe you might as well be doing it.

"Both the undertones of your speech and the gifts offered are blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and rest assured I was doing so. I threw lifeline after lifeline to prevent more of a scene than was already made. I do not care if this was the result of arrogance, sabotage, simple incompetence or as I personally suspect a mixture of all three. I have sent a letter to the Son of Heaven and since it concerns you I shall share the salient point. He may not send diplomats to anything more important than a pigsty until he has cleaned house in the Diplomatic Corp, which upon careful consideration does seem to resemble said pigsty. I would also suggest listening to those who both know the realm of which you speak and have the wit to conduct diplomacy," here you nod slightly to Hua Fen who starts as though from a daze.

You are not done, far from it.

Turning now to Pol Ning, her flames dancing close in a sort of warding corona of balefire, you explain in like tone: "Releasing a potentially hostile kami in the middle of a courtly function would have constituted a breach of guest right at the least and manslaughter at worst if anyone would have died from the envoy's actions as you have no doubt guessed. I do not know what was passing through your presumed superior's head and frankly I do not care." You glance at the other shugenja, only the briefest look of distant contempt. "Had the Lady not interfered you would most likely be dead either by the hand of palace security or a hanging for the death or other hand brought to the citizens of the Imperium. You shall be removed forthwith and shall never set foot on the grounds of the palace ever again."

The man tries to open his mouth to protest, though he is wise enough to close it as Varys peaks out from among the folds of your cloak, hissing just on the edge of human hearing, a sound that you imagine would have set many to flight already.

"The Imperium is neutral in the matter of the conflict for the Throne of the Golden Empire and shall remain so regardless of yesterday's events," A fact for which you all should be thankful, you add by way of silence heavier than words. "If it should come to pass that in the future Imperial citizens are harmed in the furtherance of said war, especially if it is done with the intent of framing one's rivals, the result shall be swift and decisive."

This time the silence stretches uncomfortably until it is Pol Ning who realizes you are done speaking and says simply: "We hear and understand," not quite the phrase they would have given to their own Emperor, which replaces 'understand' with 'obey', but the sentiment is the same. As the envoys file out you make a mental note to speak with both Hua Fen and Pol Ning privately again under less fraught circumstances to explain that you do value their aid in untangling the threads their countrymen have cast.

Do you do over the days ahead?

[] Write in

OOC: I thought about doing the meetings with Hua Fen and Pol Ning too, but this was already getting really long so that is going in the background so we can move on with the main story thread. Also, fun fact, Varys shares all your skills, including intimidation, so she could technically scare off a company of charging knights or something with a perfectly pitched draconic hiss.
 
OOC: I thought about doing the meetings with Hua Fen and Pol Ning too, but this was already getting really long so that is going in the background so we can move on with the main story thread. Also, fun fact, Varys shares all your skills, including intimidation, so she could technically scare off a company of charging knights or something with a perfectly pitched draconic hiss.
I'd love to see this, personally. Especially now, since narratively this is the best place for it and it'd take one update at most.
 
[X] Get the report from Bloodraven about what he extracted from the minds of Tywin, Lanna, Gerion and Tygett Lannister.

We need to settle this.
 
Throne's Censure

First Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

Alas, you do not have a throne to loom over the combined delegations of Yin and Trader Town, for it would be an undeserved honor to grant such a private audience. Instead, you make use of one of the more austere meeting rooms, designed in fact mostly with the Legion and other military commanders in mind. It is meant to give an impression of cold practicality and allow one to get down to business without the eye wandering over ornamentation. As a venue to meet diplomats, it has the virtue that nothing can distract them from your own less than pleased presence.

There are not even any refreshments in sight, a fact which you had to impress upon the palace spirits who were less than pleased at the lapse of hospitality, until you had explained just what crimes the ones you were meeting had made themselves guilty of. From the way more than a dozen pairs of eyes flash across the chamber, as though looking for a corner to hide in, one can call the attempt a success at least...

"I shall be brief," you begin coldly into the dead silence of the room. By spellcraft you speak perfect Yi Tish with the sort of archaic flourish that only makes it seem more formal. There shall be no misunderstandings today, you vow. "It does me no joy to be in this position as a host, but your deportment during the coronation yesterday must be addressed." You turn first to the eunuch near to trembling in his fine silks. Though you project no dragon awe, you might as well be doing it.

"Both the undertones of your speech and the gifts offered are blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention, and rest assured I was doing so. I threw lifeline after lifeline to prevent more of a scene than was already made. I do not care if this was the result of arrogance, sabotage, simple incompetence or, as I personally suspect, a mixture of all three. I have sent a letter to the Son of Heaven, and since it concerns you I shall share the salient point. He may not send diplomats to anything more important than a pigsty until he has cleaned house in the Diplomatic Corp, which upon careful consideration does seem to resemble said pigsty. I would also suggest listening to those who both know the realm of which you speak and have the wit to conduct diplomacy," here you nod slightly to Hua Fen, who starts as though from a daze.

You are not done, far from it.

Turning now to Pol Ning, her flames dancing close in a sort of warding corona of balefire, you explain in like tone, "Releasing a potentially hostile kami in the middle of a courtly function would have constituted a breach of guest right at the least and manslaughter at worst if anyone would have died from the envoy's actions, as you have no doubt guessed. I do not know what was passing through your presumed superior's head, and frankly I do not care." You glance at the other shugenja, only the briefest look of distant contempt. "Had the Lady not interfered you would most likely be dead either by the hand of palace security or a hanging for the death or other harm brought to the citizens of the Imperium. You shall be removed forthwith and shall never set foot on the grounds of the palace ever again."

The man tries to open his mouth to protest, though he is wise enough to close it as Varys peaks out from among the folds of your cloak, hissing just on the edge of human hearing, a sound that you imagine would have set many to flight already.

"The Imperium is neutral in the matter of the conflict for the Throne of the Golden Empire and shall remain so regardless of yesterday's events," A fact for which you all should be thankful, you add by way of silence heavier than words. "If it should come to pass that in the future Imperial citizens are harmed in the furtherance of said war, especially if it is done with the intent of framing one's rivals, the result shall be swift and decisive."

This time the silence stretches uncomfortably until it is Pol Ning who realizes you are done speaking and says simply, "We hear and understand." Not quite the phrase they would have given to their own Emperor, which replaces 'understand' with 'obey', but the sentiment is the same. As the envoys file out, you make a mental note to speak with both Hua Fen and Pol Ning privately again under less fraught circumstances to explain that you do value their aid in untangling the threads their countrymen have cast.

What do you do over the days ahead?

[] Write in

OOC: I thought about doing the meetings with Hua Fen and Pol Ning too, but this was already getting really long so that is going in the background so we can move on with the main story thread. Also, fun fact, Varys shares all your skills, including intimidation, so she could technically scare off a company of charging knights or something with a perfectly pitched draconic hiss.
Made some additional edits to the chapter, DP.
 
I'm honestly really curious as to what he would have said if Varys hadn't intervened. Does he have a good excuse for this in his back pocket? Or was he just going to insult us to our face?
 
it would be by economics as YI-Ti is to large , far and out of the way for the sword , if the court of Yi-Ti is even half the mess that was China's imperial royal court then guile is a waste of effort as any puppet we install would be under constant threat by courtly intrigue
Yi-Ti is dwarfed by our realm and the distance is irrelevant in the face of Gates and our Airforce. We can absolutely conquer it by froce.
 
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