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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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or we can keep her as a book if we don't recruit her. a lvl 18 caster is nice to keep as a book.

excecution seems odd when we can keep her as a book imo
 
BTW, y'all, we are overlooking something important from the update.

Adventuring is a young man's game (or an immortal's), but Benerro was a fucking boss in this latest interlude. Sure, he would probably give most of the credit to R'hllor, but that old dude threw down with subverted Golems and an enemy Archmage like it was just another Monday.

Garin made a good showing of himself as well, but that's nothing new. He's been shanking our foes with style and panache for years now.
 
For once, it would be nice to see a character who's motivation for loyalty is a preference for life and a non-preference for swearing eternal vengeance against someone who you are legitimately afraid of and would have to make many other risks along the way to have even a chance of paying back. It's not just the first risk of "make a powerful enemy", but also "make many powerful enemies", "make more enemies getting the tools necessary to achieve my vengeance" and then "survive the aftermath of achieving that aforementioned vengeance, with the power vacuum created by it and all the things waiting to fill it".

A rational person would realize we've removed every other option except Asmodeus and extinction from the board.

This isn't me saying I hope we don't have to kill her, by the way. Also logically speaking, just going by the timeline, Lanna HAS committed crimes against us, and has enabled Tywin to do most of his Big Evil throughout the last half decade.

Finally, I'm still salty about her desecrating our ancestral home. Just about the only thing that doesn't have me on the war path is that A) she didn't do anything to Rhaella's bones and B) she also didn't do more of the same with the remains interred in the Sept of Baelor.

Granted, the latter is just because Tywin probably didn't want to start another holy war. @Goldfish
 
Honestly hanging a Level 18 Character gotta be weird, too much HP /s

Anyways I'm on the side of waiting to see if she gonna be loyal and useful (which is gonna be prettyy difficult) or the execution/bookution
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Fair enough. That does look bad. I don't why I suggested it at all.
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Probably because we do keep using Yss as a neutral party during high-stakes negotiations with extremely powerful people. Though those people tend to be gods. Us bringing in Yss to officiate a deal with a deity we don't trust is one thing, but the Imperator using his pet god to enforce an agreement that was trust upon you at gunpoint is an entirely different kettle of fish. Lanna is powerful, but not even in the same ballpark as, say, Syrax, so the method has different implications.
 
The crazy demon said:
Honestly hanging a Level 18 Character gotta be weird, too much HP /s

Anyways I'm on the side of waiting to see if she gonna be loyal and useful (which is gonna be prettyy difficult) or the execution/bookution
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Coup De Grace.

HP in D&D is just an abstraction of luck and grit. It doesn't make your body tougher in actuality.

Like for example, trying to hang giant would be tough, for logical reasons, but hanging a level 20 character with no wards or defenses who is mechanically helpless would be simple.
 
Wasn't lanna behind that void ice fairy that killed Robert? That's definitely a sacrifice worthy offense.

Cersei wanted him dead, but she didn't do the summoning, right?
 
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dragon said:
Wasn't lanna behind that void ice fairy that killed Robert? That's definitely a sacrifice worthy offense.
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That was just Cersei. Who we missed out on sacrificing, now that I think about it...

Who knows? Maybe she'll show up as a Lolth outsider in Sothoryos, like Ashara Dayne might show up as a Tiamat outsider at some point.
 
Let's make a trial, right now we don't know if she participated to any ritual that enslaved the mind of anyone. And if she did under what circonstances, did Tywin took her children hostage, did he enslave her mind first ? We need to know, after that if she is found innocent she can have a post somewhere where her magic can be best used.

And for her and Gerion looting Valyria, I honestly don't care about that, they were just doing the classical d&d adventure, they did not steal from us personnaly, and let's be frank if their was some ancient magical destroyed civilisation from which the Lannisters' ancestors came from, we would have looted them too.

So for now, I won't judge her guilty for anything that she has done of her own free will that we wouldn't do.
 
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Goldfish said:
No, Cersei requisitioned that, though Lanna was likely involved in capturing and/or binding it initially.
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more than enough to qualify for sacrifice as she explicitly bound a servant of the enemy of all life for the express purpose of being used as a weapon of political assassination by a servant the demon goddess Loth

Alucard Bellsing said:
And for her and Gerion looting Valyria, I honestly don't care about that, they were just doing the classical d&d adventure, they did not steal from us personnaly, and let's be frank if their was some ancient magical destroyed civilisation from which the Lannisters' ancestors came from, we would have looted them too.
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she also looted dragonstone that is most certainly stealing from us regardless of who was squatting there at the time
 
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I'd still have vastly preferred if we could have sidestepped this whole song and dance by just having her die in battle instead of plot armor keeping her alive.
 
Look on the bright side, Scribe's Binding/Brain Spider doesn't work on corpses :V

Sparing Lanna might be bad for us PR wise. Lots of pissed off Westerland nobles who want her head on a pike.
 
Alucard Bellsing said:
Let's make a trial, right now we don't know if she participated to any ritual that enslaved the mind of anyone. And if she did under what circonstances, did Tywin took her children hostage, did he enslave her mind first ? We need to know, after that if she is found innocent she can have a post somewhere where her magic can be best used.

And for her and Gerion looting Valyria, I honestly don't care about that, they were just doing the classical d&d adventure, they did not steal from us personnaly, and let's be frank if their was some ancient magical destroyed civilisation from which the Lannisters' ancestors came from, we would have looted them too.

So for now, I won't judge her guilty for anything that she has done of her own free will that we wouldn't do.
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The salt with regards to the Valyrian expedition was mostly the fact that at the time, we were exiles because of her family, and couldn't go on frivolous expeditions into Valyria with a mountain of resources, because we were reduced to bootstrapping from the ground up for like two years while they weren't.

What we're REAL salty about was looting our family's treasury on Dragonstone and stealing like nineteen dragon eggs from us (among other things).
 
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