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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Maybe it was that Robert was using items that "should" have protected him but didn't? We know that she talked him into it by being convincing in a more mundane way, but no one else in Westeros does.

His friends and supporters (such as they are) will be more willing to believe that the Lannisters gave him shitty equipment that left him vulnerable to mind magic than that he decided death by snu-snu was a better alternative to continuing as king.
 
Well, he willingly undressed to fuck a winter fey.

All the equipment of the world does nothing when you take it off.

(Also a need a nickname for her, any ideas?)
 
Side note, this here death of Robert's makes me really want to post a certain strip of Oglaf-
Alas, it is too 'NSFW' for the evil mods :anger:

"Welcome, traveller, to the Boudoir of the Snow Queen".
 
Tomcost said:
Well, he willingly undressed to fuck a winter fey.

All the equipment of the world does nothing when you take it off.

(Also a need a nickname for her, any ideas?)
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My point was that we are the only faction that know she talked him into it without mind magic. From the perspective of a Westerosi lord the idea that he was compelled using mind magic to strip will be more palatable. The Lannisters denials will sound hollow when Cersei's involvement comes out, but worst of all it makes it look like it was a premeditated operation from house Lannisters instead of a rogue action she set up alone.

I prefer the nick name I used earlier, Frost Bite, because it's the Candi of winter fey names. :V
 
I wonder if most of the Winter fey pre-Void had their lovers like that: sweet talk them into undressing in the middle of the winter, and then after the deed is done they propose for their lover to become a winter fey to escape death.

I wonder how fast snow women will become popular once Rina restores the proper winter fey in planetos.
 
BronzeTongue said:
My point was that we are the only faction that know she talked him into it without mind magic. From the perspective of a Westerosi lord the idea that he was compelled using mind magic to strip will be more palatable. The Lannisters denials will sound hollow when Cersei's involvement comes out, but worst of all it makes it look like it was a premeditated operation from house Lannisters instead of a rogue action she set up alone.

I prefer the nick name I used earlier, Frost Bite, because it's the Candi of winter fey names. :V
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Yeah, I don't dispute how will the PR and intrigue work.


Everybody gangsta until Frost Bite arrives, yo!

Nah, it doesn't stick. I have another one: Snow White. It is oddly fitting
 
I just realized that Lya and Lyanna have similar names. Will we be known in the distant future for cucking Robert?

I really hope they don't confuse us with Rhaegar on that front.
 
egoo said:
Side note, this here death of Robert's makes me really want to post a certain strip of Oglaf-
Alas, it is too 'NSFW' for the evil mods :anger:

"Welcome, traveller, to the Boudoir of the Snow Queen".
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Post the name of the strip without making it a link, SV actually have NSFW threads, so as long as you don't downright post the NSFW context in this thread it should be fine.
 
Alright. In no particular order:

1. Cersei caused a walk-in of a high-level Golden Shields agent, which is pretty much the wet dream of any intelligence official.
2. Her method of doing the deed ensures that it's abundantly clear that it was a Lannister job.
3. The only other alternative is that it's proof that the Lannister have their enslaved monster not under control.
4. She has given us hard evidence for starting a rumor that the Lannisters are pacting with the Other, while we can personally use the more moderate line that they are enslaving them. There might be people who would find this interesting.
5. Everything that happened can be easily divined, thanks to her having him killed in bumfuck nowhere, where no ward could protect him.
6. Hey, come to think of, hasn't there been another incident recently where some winter creature killed someone important? 🤔
7. Thanks to the Winter Fey being about as subtle about it's presence as Buttercup would be, this story will have a wellspring of support among the smallfolk near the Kingswood, making propaganda efforts much easier.
8. Since the city will soon be abuzz with the rumors about how the Ice Queen killed her husband, we have about a dozen distinct groups we can pin the explosion of the Small Council on. All of them with a plausible motive. Some of them might claim credit out of their own volition even.
9. We can draw parallels between Cersei and Lysa to paint the court in Kings Landing as one pile of murderous dysfunction, dragging everyone's names through the mud.

And, of course:

10. Cersei will do something monumentally stupid when they deliver Roberts grinning, rock-hard body to her.
 
I can almost see Cersei smile melting when she sees the look of utter bliss of her husband.

EDIT: Did Robert die on canon schedule, or he died earlier?
 
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Duesal said:
We also don't plan on dying, so Robert can have that victory. :p
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You know, also, I've worked out that at the peak of Viserys' growth, he'll be at least as powerful as Demogorgon.

That is, not an Aspect/Avatar of Demogorgon, I mean the actual Demogorgon.

And actually a fair bit harder to kill.

Which doesn't get into the whole "using divine salient abilities" part of his options. Being also immune to fiat "you are now unmade" inside of another deity's realm is no joke. Could probably swing that to shank a couple gods, or at least [ゴ]MENACE[ゴ] them into backing down.
 
Crake said:
You know, also, I've worked out that at the peak of Viserys' growth, he'll be at least as powerful as Demogorgon.

That is, not an Aspect/Avatar of Demogorgon, I mean the actual Demogorgon.

And actually a fair bit harder to kill.

Which doesn't get into the whole "using divine salient abilities" part of his options. Being also immune to fiat "you are now unmade" inside of another deity's realm is no joke. Could probably swing that to shank a couple gods, or at least [ゴ]MENACE[ゴ] them into backing down.
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I wouldn't mind killing the Demagorgon one day.
 
Crake said:
You know, also, I've worked out that at the peak of Viserys' growth, he'll be at least as powerful as Demogorgon.

That is, not an Aspect/Avatar of Demogorgon, I mean the actual Demogorgon.

And actually a fair bit harder to kill.

Which doesn't get into the whole "using divine salient abilities" part of his options. Being also immune to fiat "you are now unmade" inside of another deity's realm is no joke. Could probably swing that to shank a couple gods, or at least [ゴ]MENACE[ゴ] them into backing down.
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How did you got to that conclusion? The only demogorgon I found was on 4E and he wasn't that impressive since his actual stats were quite anemic for a demon god.
 
ryuan said:
How did you got to that conclusion? The only demogorgon I found was on 4E and he wasn't that impressive since his actual stats were quite anemic for a demon god.
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Yeah, you're right, I was mixing another quite famous Demonlord up with him.

Orcus was the one...

The CR would be fairly comparable, and Viserys would be quite a bit tougher, but that's kind of what dragons do anyway, and being tough isn't all that impressive unless you have the right tactics for whatever you're going up against, and I imagine most Divine Entity vs. Divine Entity fights are mostly a matter of "who has the better McGuffin".
 
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