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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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You know I now finally get our hate on for the fey, this is the one line they should have known they could not afford to cross, but they did it anyways.

I say we pull all available resources we can and rush them with everything we have and then kill and loot everything and everyone, we do not need Winter getting any stronger.
 
Is that all the Court of Stars stuff immediately handled? In that case... @Crake, pinging you because this is your ultimate grudge. Any ideas to make it abundantly clear how much they need to cut it out with the moronic scheming?

[X] Visit Highgarden
-[X] Have a chat with House Tyrell of what's expected of them in the coming days, and the consequences of any more steps out of line

We do need to have this conversation. Their attempt at joining with the Azure Court makes it clear they need explicit instructions or they are just time bombs of idiocy.
 
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Acolyte said:
Guys any idea how viable is the werewolf army idea is.
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It's a viable template for mass enhancements of a legion, but we would need to figure out:
1. How to control the more animalistic sides of it to prevent unfortunate habits. Even werebears are still part bear.
2. How to remove the template fully once a legionnaire retires, if they wish it removed.
 
Duesal said:
It's a viable template for mass enhancements of a legion, but we would need to figure out:
1. How to control the more animalistic sides of it to prevent unfortunate habits. Even werebears are still part bear.
2. How to remove the template fully once a legionnaire retires, if they wish it removed.
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Why would we want to remove it when they retire. It would be cool to have some emergency reserves we can draw upon for institutional knowldge of for example a few legions get decimated during a war.

As for control we have a lot of druid creature and Richard and the pretorians. I am sure they could beat the control into an intial core set of trainers. Or maybe the minotaur
 
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Acolyte said:
Why would we want to remove it when they retire. It would be cool to have some emergency reserves we can draw upon for institutional knowldge of for example a few legions get decimated during a war.
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It's more if they want it removed. Legionnaires deserve to spend retirement in whatever condition they feel like, whether or not that's as a werebear or a regular human.
 
Tomcost said:
There is no way you can beat a werewolf with a level 3 spell. It must go deeper than a normal curse.
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Maybe they can sacrifice that part of themselves to the gods and get some boons in exchange. You can sacrifice your ability scores so why not that. So it could be something like that they loose the power of the wolf and get some rewards as well. Would be a nice retirement package.
 
Duesal said:
Is that all the Court of Stars stuff immediately handled? In that case... @Crake, pinging you because this is your ultimate grudge. Any ideas to make it abundantly clear how much they need to cut it out with the moronic scheming?

[X] Visit Highgarden
-[X] Have a chat with House Tyrell of what's expected of them in the coming days, and the consequences of any more steps out of line

We do need to have this conversation. Their attempt at joining with the Azure Court makes it clear they need explicit instructions or they are just time bombs of idiocy.
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[X] Visit Highgarden
-[X] Before deciding on the approximate amount of chill (which is little to absolutely none) you have for the pursuit of the Fey, you will have a conversation one of the last few thorns in your side from the Reach.
--[X] This conversation is meant for all three of them, but it's essentially something like this:
---[X] They lost. That's so sad.
----[X] "Regardless of your original reasoning for bargaining with the Fey, however righteous you are currently feeling knowing you are resolved in your choices, I don't care. That doesn't leave me with a positive impression of your competence, much less your good intentions. You have to understand how much work goes into actually protecting your realm, and I should know, given hundreds of life or death battles I've experienced to do precisely that."
-----[X] Wave your hand dismissively at anything they say to defend themselves in regards to the last bit: "Yes, yes, not everyone is capable of meeting such forces, sword in hand or claw extended. Again, I don't care. Your allies had alien goals which you could not have possibly comprehended in full. They were unreliable factors which could not be planned around with the level of knowledge and amount of agency you possessed. That you did not lose more than what you did during that infiltration by Baator speaks more of that bargain than anything else."
------[X] "Here is what is going to happen. My trust in the good word of House Tyrell begins like any debt, at a deficit. I expect a few things to happen first before House Tyrell may walk in the light like any other vassal in good standing of mine. I expect complete, and utter loyalty. Not the sort wrought of good works exchanging hands from both sides, or faith restored after numerous services performed, I mean the sort of devotion one who has raised them up from nothing holds. If you cannot be as faithful to me as House Manderly is to Stark, why do I keep you around?"
-------[X] "Do not make me think all of Aegon's decisions were mistakes. I still have some respect for the man, even as I witness the results of leaving so much unchanged. You will not get another chance to waste."
 
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Acolyte said:
Maybe they can sacrifice that part of themselves to the gods and get some boons in exchange. You can sacrifice your ability scores so why not that. So it could be something like that they loose the power of the wolf and get some rewards as well. Would be a nice retirement package.
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Nah, that sound way too much like a perpetual motion machine. Get bitten by werewolf->sell werewolfness to god->get bitten again.
 
Crake said:
[X] Visit Highgarden
-[X] Before deciding on the approximate amount of chill (which is little to absolutely none) you have for the pursuit of the Fey, you will have a conversation one of the last few thorns in your side from the Reach.
--[X] This conversation is meant for all three of them, but it's essentially something like this:
---[X] They lost. That's so sad.
----[X] "Regardless of your original reasoning for bargaining with the Fey, however righteous you are currently feeling knowing you are resolved in your choices, I don't care. That doesn't leave me with a positive impression of your competence, much less your good intentions. You have to understand how much work goes into actually protecting your realm, and I should know, given hundreds of life or death battles I've experienced to do precisely that."
-----[X] Wave your hand dismissively at anything they say to defend themselves in regards to the last bit: "Yes, yes, not everyone is capable of meeting such forces, sword in hand or claw extended. Again, I don't care. Your allies had aliens goals which you could not have possibly comprehended in full. They were unreliable factors which could not be planned around with the level of knowledge and amount of agency you possessed. That you did not lose more than what you did during that infiltration by Baator speaks more of that bargain than anything else."
------[X] "Here is what is going to happen. My trust in the good word of House Tyrell begins like at debt, at a deficit. I expect a few things to happen first before House Tyrell may walk in the light like any other vassal in good standing of mine. I expect complete, and utter loyalty. Not the sort wrought of good works exchanging hands from both sides, or faith restored after numerous services performed, I mean the sort of devotion one who has raised them up from nothing holds. If you cannot be as faithful to me as House Manderly is to Stark, why do I keep you around?"
-------[X] "Do not make me think all of Aegons decisions were mistakes. I still have some respect for the man, even as I witness the results of leaving so much unchanged. You will not get another chance to waste."
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This is every bit of spite that I hoped for.

[X] Crake
 
Acolyte said:
Guys any idea how viable is the werewolf army idea is.
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The thing to consider is that were-beings are not really the most inclined to fight in ordered ranks. even the most disciplined of them are likely to act out in the heat of mass combat and it gets worse as the full moon approaches. So you could be in a position where your army has and obvious and unavoidable weakness tied to the lunar cycle.
 
[X] Crake

Also Delende Est Indigo.

Edit: I have been informed this term may have taken on genocidal connotations due to another quest which I have not read. I do not mean to include this as an argument for genocide, I merely mean it as a Cato joke to express my irritation with the fairies who thought signing on with the enemies of all life was better than negotiating with us.
 
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DragonParadox said:
The thing to consider is that were-beings are not really the most inclined to fight in ordered ranks. even the most disciplined of them are likely to act out in the heat of mass combat and it gets worse as the full moon approaches. So you could be in a position where your army has and obvious and unavoidable weakness tied to the lunar cycle.
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It wouldn't be the whole army. More like a special part. Like shock troops but it doesn't cost us money to do it this way instead of flesh forging it.
 
[X] Crake

All on board the spite train. I still hope that they will fuck this opportunity too, in which case they will be ambushed and devoured by non-Targaryen-affiliated Barghests.
 
Smartphone said:
[X] Crake

Also Delende Est Indigo.
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Dude, while far be it for me to be a moral police anywhere. It is a friendly warning that these kind of statements were the cause of that Rome quest being banned. And yes I know that's not what you mean, but these kind of memes can grow out of control and then the thread gets banned and i don't want to to happen.

So apologise if you think i am over stepping any lines but i genuinely think you should edit that line. Again this is a friendly advice borne out of paranoia.
 
[X] Crake

Yah, why is it when the Starks rased up a house, they get an extremely loyal vassal, but when we do it we get a lazy oath breaker.
 
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