A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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... so do we actually have to publicly clarify what happened, or can we get away with just telling people it wasn't dangerous?
Lying would be bad for our reputation among people who don't think we're the devil incarnate, but leaving this to cause a theological crisis would be great.
[X] Tomcost
Do we really need to get the wisps? It's possibly our pettiest grudge, and we could actually cause ourselves a headache by appearing to spontaneously smite minor fey.
The implication that your vastly powerful overlord will track even the smallest of slights and balance the books with overwhelming force essentially at makes people nervous for good reason.
Crake
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Why even be a despotic sorcerer king?
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Crake
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Like hell we're explaining the theological particulars. If anyone asks, we can say "it was an interesting experience" and nothing more.
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Considering that our Verdant Vistas company with the Fairwinds specifically specializes in harvesting reagents unique to swamps, this seems more like it would work against us.
Crake
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The swamps are fine. A web of intricate alliances actually works better when dealing with Fey rather than overwhelming force. They just pop back up unless you despoil the land thoroughly, which devalues it.
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We've already got that whole area locked down. The Orphne Court secured the fealty of lesser courts before we got the Orphne King's fealty. Now we're just looking at the scattered remnants of the Bright One's court, and unaffiliated ones like the wisps.
I wonder if the wisps are actively shunned by other fey because they've got a target painted on their backs. 🤔
Crake
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And anything that might wander in from the Feywyld. It's not like anyone can patrol every posibile crossing.
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Well, we don't necessarily have to murder them. See, there could be a useful narrative there. The monsters thinking themselves invulnerable, tried to mock and trick a dragon. They didn't know that he would become a great wyrm, and when it came back, it was with a bargain. One that they couldn't refuse, but with a cost far too high.
[X] Tomcost
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Delaying things for one person, again?
Can we not, please?
Ugh.
Fine, but don't expect me to push this through again, or bother pushing through things people "want finally done" (like the several people who asked me to add taking care of wisps before) much anymore.
[X] Tomcost
I don't even have a horse in this, damn it, I just don't like this "plz do this when I can affect the discussion"-way of doing thins.
Haven't we been burnt by this before?
Delaying things for one person, again?
Can we not, please?
Ugh.
Fine, but don't expect me to push this through again, or bother pushing through things people "want finally done" (like the several people who asked me to add taking care of wisps before) much anymore.
[X] Tomcost
I don't even have a horse in this, damn it, I just don't like this "plz do this when I can affect the discussion"-way of doing thins.
Haven't we been burnt by this before?
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Good night guys, see you tomorrow with the last of this month and probably a rumors interlude.
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You don't have to delay, I'm just one person, and my recent involvement in the thread has been pretty sparse really. Still, I apreciate that you are voting for me, and don't worry, it will be done, but maybe not tomorrow. You put a lot of effort in tracking all these little things, some important, and some barely relevant, but that still make this story come to life.
Seriously though, this wisps thing is a funny thread meme, but it's incredibly petty. Especially given the other things that Viserys has been working on this month.
It's kind of weird for him to go from writing world changing legislation and reading the solemn accounts immortals on the fall of the plane of balance, to plotting to hunt down and kill some fey who mildly inconvenienced him years ago.
It's kind of weird for him to go from writing world changing legislation and reading the solemn accounts immortals on the fall of the plane of balance, to plotting to hunt down and kill some fey who mildly inconvenienced him years ago.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Didn't they actually come close to killing us?
Though it's petty only in relative terms. They can do literally nothing to harm or hinder us now, yet the consequences for their actions are only disproportionate because they messed with the wrong teenager.
Though it's petty only in relative terms. They can do literally nothing to harm or hinder us now, yet the consequences for their actions are only disproportionate because they messed with the wrong teenager.
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I personally have no intention to kill them, only to extract recompense.
If they try to kill us again, though, that's a different story.
Easily the most frustrating fight of the quest. They almost destroyed the Seeker, too, and if the Seeker is destroyed there's no bringing it back barring making a new one from scratch. That was all the more true back before we had a Flesh Forge.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Pretty much my exact thoughts on the matter, though they did come uncomfortably close to killing Viserys, IIRC.
If we absolutely cannot avoid dealing with them, I would much rather send a group of baby adventurers on a Wisp collection quest. Properly equipped (as we definitely were not when we ventured into the swamp), they would be able to handle Wisps without too much hassle.
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The Wisps are actually insanely OP for their CR, and the only reliable way to hit them was our Fiery burst Reserve Feat. High AC plus magic invulnerability made them almost unbeatable. I remember that we discussed using some obscure Cleric spell which caused 1 strength damage and would render them immobile for the next time we faced them.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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TBH, I wasn't even there when the encounters with them happened, and I just skimmed through those to boot.
No real personal stake.
They still are a bunch of dangerous magical entities that can and will happily hurt/kill innocent people if they end up in the wrong place.
Like the people we send gathering ingredients in the swamps.
And we have a unique chance to instagib them, what with having access to that 8th level spell of near-unstoppable Divination, and targetting them specifically (thanks to us having met them before)- and our Teleportation, firepower, and Diplomacy also allowing for a multitude of really quick solutions.
ergo, I thought we should have just quickly moved in, dealt with them one way or another, and moved away.
Now I just don't care.
No real personal stake.
They still are a bunch of dangerous magical entities that can and will happily hurt/kill innocent people if they end up in the wrong place.
Like the people we send gathering ingredients in the swamps.
And we have a unique chance to instagib them, what with having access to that 8th level spell of near-unstoppable Divination, and targetting them specifically (thanks to us having met them before)- and our Teleportation, firepower, and Diplomacy also allowing for a multitude of really quick solutions.
ergo, I thought we should have just quickly moved in, dealt with them one way or another, and moved away.
Now I just don't care.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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We could also just appear over the Swamp, use one Mage's Decree to tell them to line up and have it the easy way or have it hard way. Would take a couple hours, tops.