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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Duesal said:
ow's probably not the best time for a vote on it -- I'd rather get the Conclave firmly out of the way before finalizing anything
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Agreed.

However, I'm more partial to Azel's plan, really.
I'd rather Imperial Deity be the Green Dream of our Empire - and all of "Pantheon-grade" gods having emergency access to it for both protecting it and themselves.

Yss' can make a divine contract once he gets trade Domain, I'm pretty sure.
 
Snowfire said:
I'm going to have to draw a line here. Words of Creation are an echo of the Language Primeval that shaped reality into existence. They can be used by mortals, sure, but that requires immense amounts of training and practice (what do you think a feat is?) and anything that can stamp out print in that language should be Artefact territory.

Also guys, we need to work out the type of divinity we want - and I thought the idea we had was shot down due to 'it getting too much agency' or something by the very nature of its existence.
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True the base words of creation are too powerful and unique, but you could develop a language based meta-material, though it would need something far more complex than a mechanical press to make.
 
egoo said:
Agreed.

However, I'm more partial to Azel's plan, really.
I'd rather Imperial Deity be the Green Dream of our Empire - and all of "Pantheon-grade" gods having emergency access to it for both protecting it and themselves.

Yss' can make a divine contract once he gets trade Domain, I'm pretty sure.
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I wouldn't mind that either, but I'd definitely insist on having the contract explicitly laid out and enforced by Yss if we go that rout.
 
egoo said:
Agreed.

However, I'm more partial to Azel's plan, really.
I'd rather Imperial Deity be the Green Dream of our Empire - and all of "Pantheon-grade" gods having emergency access to it for both protecting it and themselves.

Yss' can make a divine contract once he gets trade Domain, I'm pretty sure.
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Remember those blood potions that stored hit point we got shown in Braavos?

Cheap, simple, easy to make apparently.

I think those would make excellent divine batteries.
 
If we can make a god, or merely a semi-deific prayer battery, it should be well within our capabilities to regulate the flow of power distributed to those deities trusted in defending it.

I think an ideal use for it would be not only as a method of preserving and using the power generated by the prayers of Imperial citizens, but also allowing our allied gods to filter the power of their worshipers through it like a sieve, straining out the psychoactive component which can accumulate and slowly cause the god to conform to the expectations of their faithful.

Hell, we should charge a subscription fee for such a service. I'm sure the gods would appreciate being able to accept prayer energy without the danger of being warped by it like the Seven were. The poor dumb bastards are practically a case study in divinity gone wrong.
 
Goldfish said:
If we can make a god, or merely a semi-deific prayer battery, it should be well within our capabilities to regulate the flow of power distributed to those deities trusted in defending it.

I think an ideal use for it would be not only as a method of preserving and using the power generated by the prayers of Imperial citizens, but also allowing our allied gods to filter the power of their worshipers through it like a sieve, straining out the psychoactive component which can accumulate and slowly cause the god to conform to the expectations of their faithful.

Hell, we should charge a subscription fee for such a service. I'm sure the gods would appreciate being able to accept prayer energy without the danger of being warped by it like the Seven were. The poor dumb bastards are practically a case study in divinity gone wrong.
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I kind of want to make an actual case study on the Seven and how they ended up being warped. Complete with peer reviews.
 
zxzx24 said:
Remember those blood potions that stored hit point we got shown in Braavos?

Cheap, simple, easy to make apparently.

I think those would make excellent divine batteries.
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Those potions store life, with the medium being blood, to make a god you need to store/channel soul-stuff. It's like the difference between copper wires and room temperature super conductors.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Those potions store life, with the medium being blood, not make a god you need to store/channel soul-stuff. It's like the difference between copper wires and room temperature super conductors.
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I was more thinking they would make tasty god snacks that are relatively easy to store and charge.

Not good battery material? Kind of?

If you guys just want to store raw divine power have Lya build a soul circuit.

That should be able to handle a ton.
 
DragonParadox said:
Those potions store life, with the medium being blood, to make a god you need to store/channel soul-stuff. It's like the difference between copper wires and room temperature super conductors.
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And talking about them, we gave them to Wyla 2 months ago, had she made any new discoveries with the things?
 
zxzx24 said:
Would the old gods/yss consider be able to get power from them?

Or possinly an improved version?
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This is not really something you fix by adding power. Hooking up a nuclear power plant to a simple wet battery is not suddenly going to turn it into something you would find inside an iPhone. Plus the more complex iteration would likely also store life rather than soul-stuff, it would just do it far better.
 
Tbh, I think it's best we shelve this until Viserys can anchor his pseudo godly realm that he gets on his capstone of his Mythic Path.

Hell, if you squint a bit, the this makes an actual logical progression for how that suddenly sprung up, and fits with the general concept being thrown around.

So the culmination of this project is Viserys getting his capstone. Until then, we'd lack the one keystone for the whole thing which we'd find acceptable, aka Viserys himself.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Tbh, I think it's best we shelve this until Viserys can anchor his pseudo godly realm that he gets on his capstone of his Mythic Path.

Hell, if you squint a bit, the this makes an actual logical progression for how that suddenly sprung up, and fits with the general concept being thrown around.

So the culmination of this project is Viserys getting his capstone. Until then, we'd lack the one keystone for the whole thing which we'd find acceptable, aka Viserys himself.
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Yep. Full agreement again.

On a different topic, @DragonParadox, how goes Lya's work on upgrading Oathkeeper?
 
DragonParadox said:
This is not really something you fix by adding power. Hooking up a nuclear power plant to a simple wet battery is not suddenly going to turn it into something you would find inside an iPhone. Plus the more complex iteration would likely also store life rather than soul-stuff, it would just do it far better.
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I think your still misunderstanding me.

Like, could people fill them up, and then later, after they fill it up enough use it as a sacrifice for the old gods?

Would that work?
 
DragonParadox said:
Well she figured out how to reproduce them and suspects they are some kind of low-magic imitation of a much more complex working. That is about it.
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That... Is actually really interesting.
Have we been able to trace where from, at least relatively, these came from originally?

TotallyNotEvil said:
Tbh, I think it's best we shelve this until Viserys can anchor his pseudo godly realm that he gets on his capstone of his Mythic Path.

Hell, if you squint a bit, the this makes an actual logical progression for how that suddenly sprung up, and fits with the general concept being thrown around.

So the culmination of this project is Viserys getting his capstone. Until then, we'd lack the one keystone for the whole thing which we'd find acceptable, aka Viserys himself.
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Mmm, I'm not sure.

I see some overlap between Viserys' Mythic powers and the Divine Battery "Imperial Dream", but not to a point that we wouldn't be able to get a lot of insight into the nature of divinity, dreamworld, and all related subjects, even if actually turning that pseudo-deity on would happen only much, much later.
I think starting on this research soon-ish would be for the best.
 
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