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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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egoo said:
@DragonParadox, I would appreciate a write-up (a line or two, really), on what that research would start with, and the Progress/Cost numbers for it.
Just the usual format for RAs as in the threadmarked post.

I don't really understand the matter well enough to guess myself :/
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The fist step would be to find a material which can serve as your weirwood, but before even that you guys need to decide on what kind of god you want to make so you know what sorts of materials to look into.
 
[X] Trying to gain the support of as many Godsworn as you can

So we can speak at the Faith meeting and see who exactly these people are that support this group .
 
Is the plan for the conclave to make sure that every faction decides to fight each other to the point where nothing gets done? Cause all we seems to be doing is entrenching the members of this conclave.
 
DragonParadox said:
The fist step would be to find a material which can serve as your weirwood, but before even that you guys need to decide on what kind of god you want to make so you know what sorts of materials to look into.
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I'll just forego adding that to RAs then, until someone has a write-up or a good idea of what to do.
I'm not nearly coherent enough right now to try writing up spmething like that.
 
It will probably be a material from the fey wild. To create a god you would need something from that wretched realm. Other than that I don't know what world has materials that can handle the conception of a god.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
It will probably be a material from the fey wild. To create a god you would need something from that wretched realm. Other than that I don't know what world has materials that can handle the conception of a god.
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Well we are not trying to make a god of nature here.

The Valyrians had giant VS spikes to draw on leyline energy, so clearly the material has potential to channel almost any amount of power.
We should start there.
 
I imagine Living Brass is the Sultan's answer to a properly conductive material to channel the energies necessary to birth a new god. That makes it even more important to destroy the Living Brass Forge.
 
Gaining support should by default get us the votes we need to speak before the whole Conclave, I believe.

[X] Trying to gain the support of as many Godsworn as you can
 
Goldfish said:
I imagine Living Brass is the Sultan's answer to a properly conductive material to channel the energies necessary to birth a new god. That makes it even more important to destroy the Living Brass Forge.
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...So we'll not only be destroying his entire material base, but also his ticket to godhood.
Daymn, the stakes (and the forces he'll send after us) have just risen some more :V
 
DragonParadox said:
To imitate the process you would first have to find a substance as conductive to the powers of your working as weirwoods are to the powers of nature.
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Valyrian steel is good but has... Issues.

Brass seals would also work and have... Issues.

Using raw soul stuff would also work. It just hard to get/make.

I propose we use our true speech printing press. Would that be possible @DragonParadox ?

Especially with Xors words of evilness and goodness.
 
zxzx24 said:
Valyrian steel is good but has... Issues.

Brass seals would also work and have... Issues.

Using raw soul stuff would also work. It just hard to get/make.

I propose we use our true speech printing press. Would that be possible @DragonParadox ?

Especially with Xors words of evilness and goodness.
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That's thematically incompatible. The base concept is it has to physically span across the Imperium. The weirwoods work because their root system is expansive and connects them all. The roads would work because they span the entire Imperium.

I think we'd be better served reverse engineering dragonstone and using that instead. We can make our roads as normal and embed small "veins" so to speak of dragonstone in the middle to serve as the conductor.
 
zxzx24 said:
Valyrian steel is good but has... Issues.

Brass seals would also work and have... Issues.

Using raw soul stuff would also work. It just hard to get/make.

I propose we use our true speech printing press. Would that be possible @DragonParadox ?

Especially with Xors words of evilness and goodness.
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You could certainly try, though imprinting that many Words of Creation could not be done by hand so you would need to create an entirely new (and far more complex) press.
 
DragonParadox said:
You could certainly try, though imprinting that many Words of Creation could not be done by hand so you would need to create an entirely new (and far more complex) press.
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I'm going to have to draw a line here. Words of Creation are an echo of the Language Primeval that shaped reality into existence. They can be used by mortals, sure, but that requires immense amounts of training and practice (what do you think a feat is?) and anything that can stamp out print in that language should be Artefact territory.

Also guys, we need to work out the type of divinity we want - and I thought the idea we had was shot down due to 'it getting too much agency' or something by the very nature of its existence.
 
Snowfire said:
I'm going to have to draw a line here. Words of Creation are an echo of the Language Primeval that shaped reality into existence. They can be used by mortals, sure, but that requires immense amounts of training and practice (what do you think a feat is?) and anything that can stamp out print in that language should be Artefact territory.

Also guys, we need to work out the type of divinity we want - and I thought the idea we had was shot down due to 'it getting too much agency' or something by the very nature of its existence.
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By its very nature as a god of the Imperium it would answer to its absolute monarch -- Viserys -- so I'm not as apprehensive about this as others are.
 
Snowfire said:
Also guys, we need to work out the type of divinity we want - and I thought the idea we had was shot down due to 'it getting too much agency' or something by the very nature of its existence.
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No, I think it was problematic because a "god" with little to no agency, as planned, would be unable to defend itself from other forces draining its energy.

The proposed solution would be to have our other gods play guard.
 
Duesal said:
By its very nature as a god of the Imperium it would answer to its absolute monarch -- Viserys -- so I'm not as apprehensive about this as others are.
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Artemis1992 said:
No, I think it was problematic because a "god" with little to no agency, as planned, would be unable to defend itself from other forces draining its energy.

The proposed solution would be to have our other gods play guard.
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And here we can see the problem. There's no agreement on what we even want to make. And without that, we can't find the right materials to build the foundation.
 
DragonParadox said:
You could certainly try, though imprinting that many Words of Creation could not be done by hand so you would need to create an entirely new (and far more complex) press.
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Snowfire said:
I'm going to have to draw a line here. Words of Creation are an echo of the Language Primeval that shaped reality into existence. They can be used by mortals, sure, but that requires immense amounts of training and practice (what do you think a feat is?) and anything that can stamp out print in that language should be Artefact territory.

Also guys, we need to work out the type of divinity we want - and I thought the idea we had was shot down due to 'it getting too much agency' or something by the very nature of its existence.
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Well so much for my dreams of making a hard coding language for reality.

Sigh*

Someday~
 
Snowfire said:
And here we can see the problem. There's no agreement on what we even want to make. And without that, we can't find the right materials to build the foundation.
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Now's probably not the best time for a vote on it -- I'd rather get the Conclave firmly out of the way before finalizing anything -- but in the meantime I certainly don't mind a proper god with its own agency. It being a deified Imperium means it will always answer to Viserys.
 
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