Dany would point out that she can loot a hundred times that if handed a map to the nearest ancient tomb/haunted ruin/monster den.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Dany would point out that she can loot a hundred times that if handed a map to the nearest ancient tomb/haunted ruin/monster den.
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Again, I'm sick of everyone writing their NPCs are high-level badasses. Good job on @Azel for keeping Anya low-level when he wrote her!
[Insert the usual arguments about setting vermisilitude and beating level 5, and legendary Barristan being level 12 or so]
Mormont's OCs are cool and I'd love to see more of them, but I'd keep them level 4-6, maybe 7 at most.
And this isn't how Reincarnation works, sorry. It can't make you more powerful, or give you racial HD.
[Insert the usual arguments about setting vermisilitude and beating level 5, and legendary Barristan being level 12 or so]
Mormont's OCs are cool and I'd love to see more of them, but I'd keep them level 4-6, maybe 7 at most.
And this isn't how Reincarnation works, sorry. It can't make you more powerful, or give you racial HD.
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Mind you that I still feel that I broke the dam with that move and am regretting it somewhat.
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Sure.
What have they been fighting so far? Do they have any special gear?
egoo
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You have my Caw.
I, too, feel like every OC we see now is a bit too high-level, for almost never being seen or heard about even with our current inquisitorial capabilities, or seeing any of their exploits :/
EDIT: Like, level 6 is already a hero-character.
Level 10 is the sort of badass that takes over an entire island for themselves.
from there on it stops making any sense.
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I'm conflicted. On one hand yay for looting! On the other hand there's a lot to be said for a steady profit from company shares.
I have to chime in agreement here.
It's one thing if we have people like Danar Crowl and Alyssa Grafton who are serving as Bloodraven's PC hitmen. It's the same if you've got people like Magnar of Thenn who is literally standing his ground at the edge of the Winter Badlands and dealing with the awakening Others and Winterborn and Undead.
But for others it strains my SoD pretty hard to just see people randomly past level 10 with no sign of what they had to do to get there. We have trouble getting some of our characters to level 6, much less level 10.
Omakes aren't bad, I just wish that DP had more of a hand in dice rolls there and what the realistic levels of the PCs should be.
egoo
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@DragonParadox, could we not?
Please?
It feels like there is power-creep happening rapidly now, and with nearly no indications IC.
I'm wholeheartedly behind keeping power-levels for such parties low, at 7-8 at max, for us not even hearing about them or their exploits.
Like, ever.
It makes sense for a person travelling from Yi-Ti or someone found in wilderness of Sothoryos.
Not so much as here.
EDIT: Azel'd
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That's a bit too much level gain, IMO. I can't imagine them doing enough adventuring in their locale to gain that much XP.
Level eight or nine would make more sense.
Would love to read some more omakes about them if you're in a writing mood.
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Exactly!
People (and @Mormont here) it is entirely possible to make a PC build feel thematic and work at low levels. Remember when I statted out a cool and deadly Barristan as a level 6 fighter with the right feats? I'm willing to do the same for your PCs too if you have a specific gimmick or strategy for them in mind.
But otherwise it doesn't make much sense in-setting, sorry. We just lowered the levels of everyone involved in the mage competition too! How can the finalists be a low-level Bard and a Wizard 8 when there are level 11/12 PCs crawling out of the woodwork now!
There are some organisations that are producing such people. They're been foreshadowed to hell and back and we know that they've been busy fighting serious sustained threats (Lantern Bearers, etc). A few NPCs with non-legendary experience and maybe a fight or two against monsters should be around level 5, not level 10.
Remember, Gandalf was a lv 5 Wizard!
People (and @Mormont here) it is entirely possible to make a PC build feel thematic and work at low levels. Remember when I statted out a cool and deadly Barristan as a level 6 fighter with the right feats? I'm willing to do the same for your PCs too if you have a specific gimmick or strategy for them in mind.
But otherwise it doesn't make much sense in-setting, sorry. We just lowered the levels of everyone involved in the mage competition too! How can the finalists be a low-level Bard and a Wizard 8 when there are level 11/12 PCs crawling out of the woodwork now!
There are some organisations that are producing such people. They're been foreshadowed to hell and back and we know that they've been busy fighting serious sustained threats (Lantern Bearers, etc). A few NPCs with non-legendary experience and maybe a fight or two against monsters should be around level 5, not level 10.
Remember, Gandalf was a lv 5 Wizard!
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I didn't have much to say against Azel or Crake's omakes since they started relatively low and it really seemed like encounters and fights were being properly rolled and XP was awarded correctly. We could see the level progression there, and it felt earned.
I have a lot more of a problem with omakes just introducing PC characters right off the bat, especially when they're freaking level 10.
I have a lot more of a problem with omakes just introducing PC characters right off the bat, especially when they're freaking level 10.
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My suggestions:
Alysane Mormont the Werebear fighter 2 -> Being a Werebear already adds several racial HD, massive stat boosts (+16 Str!!!) and strong bonus feats. It's hugely powerful, worth a whole bunch of levels. The werebears we saw IC were a regional power group that scared away other factions!
Walter 'Knott' Mormont a Bard 4 -> Just enough to get second-level spells! Already a very effective buffer if built right.
Odric Knott a Spontaneous Druid 5 -> Any higher and he can probably raise the dead... And Druid is one of the best classes in the game. Any higher and we'd have heard of him! Level 5 is to get Wild Shape.
NPC Wyl as a Martial Rogue 5
At level 5 they're all very good, non-legendary PCs. Remember that the standard in this setting is never beating level 5 in your entire life, except for the best of the best. The queen was level 6. The master-at-arms who trained the best fighters in the realm was level 7. Barristan the living legend was level 12 or something, according to DP's old hints.
Friendly reminder my pet NPC was level 1
Azel's was level 3 I think? We then leveled her IC, having her do stuff under DP's control and be part of the main story.
Alysane Mormont the Werebear fighter 2 -> Being a Werebear already adds several racial HD, massive stat boosts (+16 Str!!!) and strong bonus feats. It's hugely powerful, worth a whole bunch of levels. The werebears we saw IC were a regional power group that scared away other factions!
Walter 'Knott' Mormont a Bard 4 -> Just enough to get second-level spells! Already a very effective buffer if built right.
Odric Knott a Spontaneous Druid 5 -> Any higher and he can probably raise the dead... And Druid is one of the best classes in the game. Any higher and we'd have heard of him! Level 5 is to get Wild Shape.
NPC Wyl as a Martial Rogue 5
At level 5 they're all very good, non-legendary PCs. Remember that the standard in this setting is never beating level 5 in your entire life, except for the best of the best. The queen was level 6. The master-at-arms who trained the best fighters in the realm was level 7. Barristan the living legend was level 12 or something, according to DP's old hints.
Friendly reminder my pet NPC was level 1
Azel's was level 3 I think? We then leveled her IC, having her do stuff under DP's control and be part of the main story.
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Yeah, Anya was level 3 as that was the absolutely minimum level to get her functional. Multi-class gishes pay dearly in the early levels.
Edit: Mind you, Ivez is a bit higher leveled, but that's kinda necessary to survive the joust and she is one of the best riders out of thousands of legionaries. Also, she is mono-focused on lance-fighting and sucks at everything not horse-related.
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@TalonofAnathrax where did we see the Werebears again? I am asking for a friend...I am asking because I want to make plant-infused werebears.
Not sure about dungeons that provide hundredfold of 50 thousands IM. Azel must have failed so spectacularly in his planning to miss on those!
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Reasonable, but they've supposedly been in the area trying to track down the poachers that Jorah sold to free/repatriate them. We might have done half of that for them. They also love to run into Lynesse Hightower.
The only magical item I had given them was a Horn of Blasting enchanted with First Men runes. As shown they initially when dungeon delving on Bear Island. They'd have fought Beyond-the-Wall for a bit (Helping Bloodraven perhaps?) before eventually getting to White Harbor (Working for Manderly?) to head east. Once in the east its social combat mainly and tracking down to the enslaved and recently freed poachers.
Easily, just don't level them up since the last Omake they were in.
Only difference would be reincarnating the poor guardsman as a murderous red cap. Most days he won't even get a red cap bonus either.
Oh I thought you meant 50 IM.
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I'm pretty sure she can find ten times that sum in the crevices of the couch.
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We've got suspicions that we murdered Lynese Hightower already. She may or may not have been the lover of the son of the Archon of Lys, who we murdered in the violent coup using Aedon. @DragonParadox will need to either confirm or deny.
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If it turns out she was the lover of the Archon's son, we can just present the Mormont's with her skull.
We could also trivially scry Jorah Mormont and teleport the other Mormonts right to him. He's got a spot dusted off for him at the Wall.
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Check the updates beyond the wall (our first trip).
EDIT: Around page 5600.
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So anyone know what the Nights Watch has been up to? We may need to go back by and check on them. Since they have been doing things I am curious to see if they found anything or researched anything.
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It's mostly that Alysane blames Lynesse for Jorah's actions. If she were to be confirmed as dead well the only complaint would be not being there to watch.