A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Kinda a problem in it's own right here :/
If we'll be unwilling to do what otherwise would be a sensible and logical thing to do in-setting and in-character DP will likely try giving us a way out of this.
My SoD won't take such a hit easily.
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Yeah, I don't like it either but... if this was a regular NPC sent to us from DP?
He would be dead without a second thought.
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Would it though, we spared Bronn. He was complicit in the deaths of tens or hundreds if i remember.
Sure unknowingly complicit, but still so. Not to mention he specifically stated he was working against us for the money. Lets not pretend he would have had any compunctions in killing people if he had thought he was strong enough to do so.
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I can only see putting him in our new jails with Conselor Archon support.
But I don't support that. A noose it is!
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He was level 11 though.
Big difference.
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Which is the other big thing that could save someone. Being a Canon Character.
Mind you that there was still a lot of grumbling about that and quite a few people detested sparing him.
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I mean if Xor counsels for mercy we will give it but the main issue is that we have to play in character to Viserys. In character consistency is very important after all. That and he chose to strike a companion...is he insane? Even assuming that Xor was holding back the fact that he is alive says a lot about his luck. I am surprised Xor didn't turn him into dust.
Edit: I maintain that we should have turned Bronn to ash. It is one thing where we spare some one because we owe a character a debt ( Eddard) but it is another to spare someone because of "cannon character" status.
Edit: I maintain that we should have turned Bronn to ash. It is one thing where we spare some one because we owe a character a debt ( Eddard) but it is another to spare someone because of "cannon character" status.
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Agreed, we shall just have to hope that Xor's pure heart can save this violent, unstable, dickhead with no respect for our laws.
... I mean I don't disagree with that statement because killing off someone else's OC seems rude, but that really is the only thing giving that dude a chance.
... I mean I don't disagree with that statement because killing off someone else's OC seems rude, but that really is the only thing giving that dude a chance.
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He was also level 11, and has come in handy repeatedly. Him being a canon character was not the main reason he was spared.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Pretty much this, yes.
As much as I detest the fact that some people are willing to throw logic away the moment they see canon characters, I cannot deny that it is there.
And I also was the one who detested sparing Bronn.
I still think we shouldn't have, useful and great as he was since.
Because consistency.
And, well, Xor or not, this guys would still be presenting a much worse case than what Bronn did.
He did everything knowlingly here, after all.
no offense, @superguy2876
I would argue for a death of anyone's OC in such a situation, even mine had I had one of my own, because I think consistency in this matter more important :/
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Mmmm
Hhhhhmmmmmmm?
"Not guilty by reason of insanity exacerbated by magic your honor."
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- Germany
"So he is a unstable, violently lunatic? Headsman, please."
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I don't remember my opinions on Bronn.
But there is something: we regularly recruit our enemies, enemies that have done far worse than murdering people. We do that because they are competent and they were following their own interests, and we respect that.
Voidhead here just strolled into this place, evaded our laws, and tried to murder someone because he used magic to look like his aunt. When everybody already told him that that was the case.
There is no redeeming fact about that. There is nothing we respect about that. There no other option than being judged and hanged for a mundane crime like that.
But there is something: we regularly recruit our enemies, enemies that have done far worse than murdering people. We do that because they are competent and they were following their own interests, and we respect that.
Voidhead here just strolled into this place, evaded our laws, and tried to murder someone because he used magic to look like his aunt. When everybody already told him that that was the case.
There is no redeeming fact about that. There is nothing we respect about that. There no other option than being judged and hanged for a mundane crime like that.
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Speaking of Xor does he want anything? Does he want a title? I can't seem to really get a read on him. Maybe it is the Eldritch but I cant really find out what he wants.
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He wants to see the world! experience new things, meet new people.
He should be our Minister of Culture
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"He was grieving and has an as of yet unknown condition which makes him a "unstable violent lunatic""
"Unless I missed something rather dramatic we try to treat people before we kill them."
"On top of the fact we have no idea what may have given him this power, or what circumstances may have created it. All questions I would very much prefer awnsers to."
Actually now that I think about it flood of insane warlock suicide bombers actually has a nice ring to it. Hm...
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The good news: I've got to go for an hour or two.
The bad news: This is triggering me something fierce, so expect a rant later instead of right now.
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- The internet
Re: Bronn
OOC we spared him because high level cannon Pokemon, to pretend otherwise is silly.
IC Viserys pardoned him because he was capable, smart, ambitious, willing to make a deal and in general seemed like a valuable recruit.
This guy seems like basically none of those things. He's a violent lunatic with no aspirations or goals who clearly doesn't give a shit about our laws and (from what we've read so far) would probably tell Xor to shove his mercy up his non-existent ass.
His reasons for being that way are tragic, but they don't make him a better recruit.
OOC we spared him because high level cannon Pokemon, to pretend otherwise is silly.
IC Viserys pardoned him because he was capable, smart, ambitious, willing to make a deal and in general seemed like a valuable recruit.
This guy seems like basically none of those things. He's a violent lunatic with no aspirations or goals who clearly doesn't give a shit about our laws and (from what we've read so far) would probably tell Xor to shove his mercy up his non-existent ass.
His reasons for being that way are tragic, but they don't make him a better recruit.
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The fact that he believes he is right renders him irredeemable, beyond his insanity. No Joker Immunity allowed.
Let's feed him to the Black Dread to show that it is the real deal. /s
Let's feed him to the Black Dread to show that it is the real deal. /s
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
We do need to make a separate Larder tab just for feeding him, now that I think about it...
The shortest way to a male's heart, after all
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By the way, once Lya has Mythic Crafter this would look good on her:
Ring of Transcendent Spells
Price 30,000 gp; Slot ring; CL 13th; Weight — ; Aura strong universal
DESCRIPTION
This jade ring is carved in the shape of an ouroboros. Three times per day, the wearer can use it to empower a spell she casts. This grants her a +2 bonus on caster level checks to overcome spell resistance, and increases the save DC of the spell (if any) by 2.
While enhancing a spell this way, the caster can expend one use of mythic power plus an additional use per two spell levels (minimum two uses), to instead cast the mythic version of her spell (though not an augmented version of the mythic spell) as if she knew the mythic version of that spell. This has no effect if the spell doesn't have a mythic version. The save DC increase for being a potent mythic spell stacks with the save DC increase granted by using the ring's power.
For example, if the wearer enhances fireball with this ring, she can expend two uses of mythic power to cast mythic fireball instead (one use plus one use for a 3rd-level spell).
CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS
Cost 15,000 gp; Feats Forge Ring, Mythic Crafter limited wish, mnemonic enhancer
Mythic version of any spell she has prepared, should she need it.
Ring of Transcendent Spells
Price 30,000 gp; Slot ring; CL 13th; Weight — ; Aura strong universal
DESCRIPTION
This jade ring is carved in the shape of an ouroboros. Three times per day, the wearer can use it to empower a spell she casts. This grants her a +2 bonus on caster level checks to overcome spell resistance, and increases the save DC of the spell (if any) by 2.
While enhancing a spell this way, the caster can expend one use of mythic power plus an additional use per two spell levels (minimum two uses), to instead cast the mythic version of her spell (though not an augmented version of the mythic spell) as if she knew the mythic version of that spell. This has no effect if the spell doesn't have a mythic version. The save DC increase for being a potent mythic spell stacks with the save DC increase granted by using the ring's power.
For example, if the wearer enhances fireball with this ring, she can expend two uses of mythic power to cast mythic fireball instead (one use plus one use for a 3rd-level spell).
CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS
Cost 15,000 gp; Feats Forge Ring, Mythic Crafter limited wish, mnemonic enhancer
Mythic version of any spell she has prepared, should she need it.
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We do need to make a separate Larder tab just for feeding him, now that I think about it...
The shortest way to a male's heart, after all
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Well speaking of feeding him...Dragon Island needs these dragons to be fed. Do we know what the plan is to feed it? Assuming we just place them on any uninhabited island that means that they would, sooner or later, consume the local populace. Do we import dinosaurs so that they can eat them? Do we constantly ship food to the island to feed them? What is the plan here?
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We're going to arrange for food to be shipped there daily, and we'll give the dragons a very stern lecture that hunting people or ships will not be tolerated.